Advanced UI Menus/Brush Modes: promote 2.79 addons release. #42564

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Ryan Inch · 2014-11-10T18:42:20+01:00

Ryan Inch commented

2014-11-10 18:42:20 +01:00

Menus to aid the user and increase the speed of interacting with blender's UI.

Addon: advanced_ui_menus_1_4a.zip
Wiki: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/3D_interaction/Advanced_UI_Menus

Edit from meta-androcto:
Parts of this addon work very well & are appropriate for Blender 2.79 (the brush type menus)
I've made changes & a customized use case specific file is located in the brush menu file below.
space_view3d_brush_modes.zip
Given the significant impact on this addon (most parts have been used or removed) the original addon will need to be rewritten, thus I'll use this task as reference point.
Thanks to @Imaginer
After talks with Ryan in irc we are happy with this addon & the hotkey in Brush modes Alt/v
This is not designed to set up your entire sculpt workflow. It is designed to provide quick access to sculpt settings whilst sculpting in full screen mode or other so settings can be easily changed on the fly whilst working, without jumping back to the toolshelf set up for small changes.

Menus to aid the user and increase the speed of interacting with blender's UI. Addon: [advanced_ui_menus_1_4a.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F231968/advanced_ui_menus_1_4a.zip) Wiki: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/3D_interaction/Advanced_UI_Menus Edit from meta-androcto: Parts of this addon work very well & are appropriate for Blender 2.79 (the brush type menus) I've made changes & a customized use case specific file is located in the brush menu file below. [space_view3d_brush_modes.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F489654/space_view3d_brush_modes.zip) Given the significant impact on this addon (most parts have been used or removed) the original addon will need to be rewritten, thus I'll use this task as reference point. Thanks to @Imaginer After talks with Ryan in irc we are happy with this addon & the hotkey in Brush modes Alt/v This is not designed to set up your entire sculpt workflow. It is designed to provide quick access to sculpt settings whilst sculpting in full screen mode or other so settings can be easily changed on the fly whilst working, without jumping back to the toolshelf set up for small changes.

Ryan Inch commented

2014-11-10 18:42:20 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Ryan Inch commented

2014-11-10 18:42:20 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Imaginer

Thomas Dinges was assigned by Lukas Tönne

2014-11-12 10:43:45 +01:00

Lukas Tönne commented

2014-11-12 10:43:45 +01:00

Added subscribers: @ThomasDinges, @LukasTonne

Lukas Tönne commented

2014-11-12 10:43:46 +01:00

It's not clear to me what these menu(s?) actually do, seems like it's a mix of all sorts of things the author uses on a regular basis? Then it is probably not a good idea to make it official. Maybe the patch should be broken into smaller parts.

@ThomasDinges: Do you mind if i assign this to you for review?

It's not clear to me what these menu(s?) actually do, seems like it's a mix of all sorts of things the author uses on a regular basis? Then it is probably not a good idea to make it official. Maybe the patch should be broken into smaller parts. @ThomasDinges: Do you mind if i assign this to you for review?

Thomas Dinges removed their assignment 2014-11-12 10:54:11 +01:00

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-11-12 10:54:11 +01:00

I don't have time to review an add-on, sorry.

On a quick look, this indeed seems like a collection of various menus, we cannot accept it in this state.

I don't have time to review an add-on, sorry. On a quick look, this indeed seems like a collection of various menus, we cannot accept it in this state.

Lukas Tönne commented

2014-11-12 11:03:41 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Lukas Tönne closed this issue

2014-11-12 11:03:41 +01:00

Lukas Tönne self-assigned this 2014-11-12 11:03:41 +01:00

Lukas Tönne commented

2014-11-12 11:03:41 +01:00

Closing the patch then. You're free to distribute this as you like of course, but we can't accept it as an official addon, sorry.

Ryan Inch commented

2014-11-14 15:04:45 +01:00

Hi, I submitted this here on the advice of someone from the blenderui IRC channel. If this was submitted for the official addons I apologize, I only wanted it to go into contrib so I could get more feedback and perhaps discuss it with other Blender devs to get it ready for release.

About the addon, it isn't just a mix of menus I use on a random basis, it was designed to mimic the functionality of Pie Menus (with a few improvements of my own), but use the traditional menu layout. It also has a prototype for a user customize-able menu that is customized by adding operators, etc. from a ui provided by the menu.

I know that there are plenty of things that need to be fixed/improved and that possibly some things should be separated out e.g. the custom menu, but I hope that eventually this will be a good addon that can be included as an official addon, and that this comment makes it clearer what the addon does and why I submitted it.

Hi, I submitted this here on the advice of someone from the blenderui IRC channel. If this was submitted for the official addons I apologize, I only wanted it to go into contrib so I could get more feedback and perhaps discuss it with other Blender devs to get it ready for release. About the addon, it isn't just a mix of menus I use on a random basis, it was designed to mimic the functionality of Pie Menus (with a few improvements of my own), but use the traditional menu layout. It also has a prototype for a user customize-able menu that is customized by adding operators, etc. from a ui provided by the menu. I know that there are plenty of things that need to be fixed/improved and that possibly some things should be separated out e.g. the custom menu, but I hope that eventually this will be a good addon that can be included as an official addon, and that this comment makes it clearer what the addon does and why I submitted it.

Brendon Murphy commented

2014-11-20 05:06:13 +01:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Brendon Murphy reopened this issue

2014-11-20 05:06:13 +01:00

Brendon Murphy commented

2014-11-20 05:06:13 +01:00

Added subscriber: @BrendonMurphy

Brendon Murphy commented

2014-11-20 05:06:13 +01:00

I don't see any reason why this cannot be developed in contrib.
It has the possibility of incorporating some smaller addons & bringing a single ui menu addon, rather than the several we have now. I would expect.

Addons development should be:
Submit useful addon to contrib.
Learn Blender addon management tools & refine addon based on developer & user feedback.
Then Submit for Review for release.

I'm re-opening to allow further consideration.

I don't see any reason why this cannot be developed in contrib. It has the possibility of incorporating some smaller addons & bringing a single ui menu addon, rather than the several we have now. I would expect. Addons development should be: Submit useful addon to contrib. Learn Blender addon management tools & refine addon based on developer & user feedback. Then Submit for Review for release. I'm re-opening to allow further consideration.

Takanu commented

2014-11-24 18:14:39 +01:00

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Takanu commented

2014-11-24 18:14:39 +01:00

I've used this plugin for a while before Pie Menus came out, and I think this could potentially aid the current keymap project, but I don't feel some of these menus make the workflow faster and should be broken down into smaller, more easily accessible menus. For example, the paint control menu seems like it would take longer to use to access brushes than currently pressing one of the key commands or bringing up the toolbar. Something like that should have a dedicated pie menu or series of pie menus, where brushes are grouped by a general category.

This is a cool idea, but I think for it to be successful, some of the menus in the plugin need to be broken down into smaller menus that are accessible through more key shortcuts, and that pie menus should be used where appropriate to enable more instantaneous accessibility of important tools.

I've used this plugin for a while before Pie Menus came out, and I think this could potentially aid the current keymap project, but I don't feel some of these menus make the workflow faster and should be broken down into smaller, more easily accessible menus. For example, the paint control menu seems like it would take longer to use to access brushes than currently pressing one of the key commands or bringing up the toolbar. Something like that should have a dedicated pie menu or series of pie menus, where brushes are grouped by a general category. This is a cool idea, but I think for it to be successful, some of the menus in the plugin need to be broken down into smaller menus that are accessible through more key shortcuts, and that pie menus should be used where appropriate to enable more instantaneous accessibility of important tools.

Lukas Tönne removed their assignment 2014-12-03 10:26:08 +01:00

Takanu commented

2014-12-04 15:35:07 +01:00

Sorry if a double post isn't appropriate, I am new to using the developer site :)

I feel that the example I raised above regarding paint control being harder to access is why you should actually include Pie Menus in your plugin. Lists are cool for certain things, but for brushes a very instant and gestural workflow is important in accessing them, as they are tools people switch between all the time in a sculpting workflow, and Pie Menus let you very quickly access them. Lists however suit more technical, one-off operators that are used infrequently, and I think you should redesign some elements of the plugin accordingly. If you like, i'd be happy to try to use it in more detail and give you better feedback on it.

Sorry if a double post isn't appropriate, I am new to using the developer site :) I feel that the example I raised above regarding paint control being harder to access is why you should actually include Pie Menus in your plugin. Lists are cool for certain things, but for brushes a very instant and gestural workflow is important in accessing them, as they are tools people switch between all the time in a sculpting workflow, and Pie Menus let you very quickly access them. Lists however suit more technical, one-off operators that are used infrequently, and I think you should redesign some elements of the plugin accordingly. If you like, i'd be happy to try to use it in more detail and give you better feedback on it.

Ryan Inch commented

2014-12-05 05:39:31 +01:00

Hi Takanu,
I meant to reply earlier, but have been fairly busy and kept forgetting. I agree that in certain situations Pies are much better than lists(e.g. the view menu) and that my menus can be improved a lot still. You're right about the paint control menu, it needs some work and, based on current blender ui practices, splitting it up might be the best way to go. I would also be very grateful if you would continue testing and providing me feedback. :)

@ the blender devs: Is this a good place for feedback/discussion on/of my addon, and if not, where would a good place be?

Hi Takanu, I meant to reply earlier, but have been fairly busy and kept forgetting. I agree that in certain situations Pies are much better than lists(e.g. the view menu) and that my menus can be improved a lot still. You're right about the paint control menu, it needs some work and, based on current blender ui practices, splitting it up might be the best way to go. I would also be very grateful if you would continue testing and providing me feedback. :) @ the blender devs: Is this a good place for feedback/discussion on/of my addon, and if not, where would a good place be?

Campbell Barton commented

2015-05-20 10:21:05 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Campbell Barton commented

2015-05-20 10:21:05 +02:00

These kinds of usability scripts can be OK... if developers like to maintain them in contrib. and they seem generally useful.

However there is some fairly odd code just from a quick check...

__location__ = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwd(), os.path.dirname(__file__))) - the os.getcwd() can be anything, and shouldnt be used.
sys.path.append(os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), '..', 'advanced_ui_menus')), you don't have to modify the sys.path, use relative imports instead.

Marking as incomplete, this can go into contrib if the issues above are addressed.

These kinds of usability scripts can be OK... if developers like to maintain them in contrib. and they seem generally useful. However there is some fairly odd code just from a quick check... - `__location__ = os.path.realpath(os.path.join(os.getcwd(), os.path.dirname(__file__)))` - the `os.getcwd()` can be *anything*, and shouldnt be used. - `sys.path.append(os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), '..', 'advanced_ui_menus'))`, you don't have to modify the `sys.path`, use relative imports instead. Marking as incomplete, this can go into contrib if the issues above are addressed.

Ryan Inch self-assigned this 2015-06-06 06:22:29 +02:00

Ryan Inch commented

2015-06-06 06:28:34 +02:00

I have hopefully addressed the issues Campbell identified and updated the task with the new version.

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-06-13 10:25:39 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Ryan Inch commented

2015-09-10 05:41:35 +02:00

Updated Addon

Ryan Inch was unassigned by Brendon Murphy

2017-02-19 11:27:01 +01:00

Brendon Murphy self-assigned this 2017-02-19 11:27:01 +01:00

Brendon Murphy commented

2017-02-19 11:27:01 +01:00

hi, I've ported the Brush sections of this addon to create a new sculpt/paint brush mode menu.
raising priority to confirmed.
The new version has all the brush menus to one main menu & one hotkey. Alt/V for testing purpose but this seems ok.
It has been designed to replace the Viewport pie menu Sculpt brushes, as they don't really sit well & will be removed.
Current my dev version: (sorry pic includes custom brushes as I was testing)

space_view3d_brush_modes.zip

hi, I've ported the Brush sections of this addon to create a new sculpt/paint brush mode menu. raising priority to confirmed. The new version has all the brush menus to one main menu & one hotkey. Alt/V for testing purpose but this seems ok. It has been designed to replace the Viewport pie menu Sculpt brushes, as they don't really sit well & will be removed. Current my dev version: (sorry pic includes custom brushes as I was testing) ![brush_tools.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F489650/brush_tools.jpg) [space_view3d_brush_modes.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F489654/space_view3d_brush_modes.zip)

Brendon Murphy changed title from ~~Advanced UI Menus~~ to Advanced UI Menus/Brush Modes

2017-02-19 11:37:39 +01:00

Brendon Murphy commented

2017-02-26 22:14:11 +01:00

Initial commit made to addons contrib, updated wiki page to follow after code clean & menu finalize

Brendon Murphy changed title from ~~Advanced UI Menus/Brush Modes~~ to Advanced UI Menus/Brush Modes:promote 2.79 addons release.

2017-03-12 12:51:39 +01:00

Brendon Murphy changed title from ~~Advanced UI Menus/Brush Modes:promote 2.79 addons release.~~ to Advanced UI Menus/Brush Modes: promote 2.79 addons release.

2017-03-12 12:53:09 +01:00

Ryan Inch commented

2017-03-13 04:28:42 +01:00

Here is an update that brings this up to the stable development level of my Advanced UI Menus: space_view3d_brush_modes_update_17-3-12.zip

Here is an update that brings this up to the stable development level of my Advanced UI Menus: [space_view3d_brush_modes_update_17-3-12.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F508177/space_view3d_brush_modes_update_17-3-12.zip)

Brendon Murphy commented

2017-03-19 23:57:01 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Brendon Murphy closed this issue

2017-03-19 23:57:01 +01:00

Brendon Murphy commented

2017-03-19 23:57:01 +01:00

@Imaginer
Closing this task, I've committed brush menus to release. As we discussed, I'll close this task now & feel free to create a new task when we are closer to 2.8 with your full toolset.
Thanks for your help & support here.

@Imaginer Closing this task, I've committed brush menus to release. As we discussed, I'll close this task now & feel free to create a new task when we are closer to 2.8 with your full toolset. Thanks for your help & support here.

Luis Cantu commented

2018-07-04 03:19:17 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Luis3dextreme

Luis Cantu commented

2018-07-04 03:19:17 +02:00

Please update advanced ui menus for 2.8. Thanks.

Ryan Inch commented

2018-07-05 08:17:19 +02:00

Don't worry. I'll make sure both Advanced UI Menus & space_view_3d_brush_modes get updated for the 2.8 release.

Luis Cantu commented

2018-07-18 05:20:46 +02:00

thank you very much, I can not live without that addon

Ryan Inch commented

2019-07-24 09:12:27 +02:00

@Luis3dextreme Advanced UI Menus has been basically ported to 2.8. You can test it out here if you want: https://github.com/Exairnous/Advanced-UI-Menus/tree/blender2.8.
Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to port space_view_3d_brush_modes yet, but it should be ready by 2.81.

@Luis3dextreme Advanced UI Menus has been basically ported to 2.8. You can test it out here if you want: https://github.com/Exairnous/Advanced-UI-Menus/tree/blender2.8. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to port space_view_3d_brush_modes yet, but it should be ready by 2.81.

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