Screencast Keys Addon: Return to Addons release 2.79 #51419

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opened 6 years ago by BrendonMurphy · 10 comments
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This is the task to return Screencast Keys Addon to release for a final run in 2.79 release.
To briefly explain the history:
There was & is an issue with this addon where, if you hold a key down it does multiple counts for the key. As it's a limitation of the addon & @ideasman42 & myself decided to remove it after a report here.
This caused much disappointment from users and video tutorial authors as they were aware of the issue, it did not really concern them, given the ease of use from within Blender.

Ever Since we removed Screencast Keys, it did not lessen it's use. It is still seen in use in many video tutorials.
At first I hosted the file in my personal git & provided links when asked, then discovered it had continued development here:
https://github.com/chromoly/ctools
This version is the current version that, when frequently asked, I now link to.

Given bgl changes will break it for 2.8 most likely, a Final run of a requested & used by many addon is appropriate.

Thanks

This is the task to return Screencast Keys Addon to release for a final run in 2.79 release. To briefly explain the history: There was & is an issue with this addon where, if you hold a key down it does multiple counts for the key. As it's a limitation of the addon & @ideasman42 & myself decided to remove it after a report here. This caused much disappointment from users and video tutorial authors as they were aware of the issue, it did not really concern them, given the ease of use from within Blender. Ever Since we removed Screencast Keys, it did not lessen it's use. It is still seen in use in many video tutorials. At first I hosted the file in my personal git & provided links when asked, then discovered it had continued development here: https://github.com/chromoly/ctools This version is the current version that, when frequently asked, I now link to. Given bgl changes will break it for 2.8 most likely, a Final run of a requested & used by many addon is appropriate. Thanks
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Changed status to: 'Open'

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The key-repeat issue was not the only reason for removing this Add-on:

  • To my knowledge there wasn't an active maintainer at that time, which is against our rules for keeping Add-ons in the list of officially supported Add-ons.
  • It only worked for the 3D View, not for other editors.
  • It didn't work with most modal operators.
  • Every key typed in the text editor was displayed by the Add-on.
  • ...
    So people kept reporting bugs but there was nobody maintaining the Add-on to fix them (see #37865, #36840, #40173, #37517, ...).

I suggest for 2.8 we bring this feature back but move it into the global status bar . We could also look into solving other issues like with modal operators, either by extending the BPY API or by implementing this feature in C (similar to how pies are an Add-on with C implementation).
With that in mind, I'm definitely against bringing this back for the 2.79 release, just to eventually replace it with a different version solving some of its current issues in 2.8. That's too much of a back-and-forth to be reasonable.

The key-repeat issue was not the only reason for removing this Add-on: * To my knowledge there wasn't an active maintainer at that time, which is against our rules for keeping Add-ons in the list of officially supported Add-ons. * It only worked for the 3D View, not for other editors. * It didn't work with most modal operators. * Every key typed in the text editor was displayed by the Add-on. * ... So people kept reporting bugs but there was nobody maintaining the Add-on to fix them (see #37865, #36840, #40173, #37517, ...). I suggest for 2.8 we bring this feature back but move it into the [global status bar ](https://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:2.8/UI/Workshop_Writeup#Status_Bar). We could also look into solving other issues like with modal operators, either by extending the BPY API or by implementing this feature in C (similar to how pies are an Add-on with C implementation). With that in mind, I'm definitely against bringing this back for the 2.79 release, just to eventually replace it with a different version solving some of its current issues in 2.8. That's too much of a back-and-forth to be reasonable.
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hi @JulianEisel
It's really tiresome pointing people to the current & recent long term version of this addon. I'll check which bugs have been fixed,
Ideasman & I made the decision to remove this addon & weighed up the considerations for & against.
I don't see the issue with adding this back for a last release given it's maintained for some time now.
Many users have requested this & still use this addon for tutorials but do not know of or have access to the latest version.
So for one release return, I think there's no harm nor foul I can see.

I fully agree with this:

I suggest for 2.8 we bring this feature back but move it into the global status bar. We could also look into solving other issues like with modal operators, either by extending the BPY API or by implementing this feature in C (similar to how pies are an Add-on with C implementation).

Thanks

hi @JulianEisel It's really tiresome pointing people to the current & recent long term version of this addon. I'll check which bugs have been fixed, Ideasman & I made the decision to remove this addon & weighed up the considerations for & against. I don't see the issue with adding this back for a last release given it's maintained for some time now. Many users have requested this & still use this addon for tutorials but do not know of or have access to the latest version. So for one release return, I think there's no harm nor foul I can see. I fully agree with this: > I suggest for 2.8 we bring this feature back but move it into the global status bar. We could also look into solving other issues like with modal operators, either by extending the BPY API or by implementing this feature in C (similar to how pies are an Add-on with C implementation). Thanks
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hi, looking at the previous bug reports that led to the removal of this addon, all have been solved, it's a complete new ball game with the current version.
I will test further.
note, I may abandon this as it's an increased workload to prepare the addon for Blender.

hi, looking at the previous bug reports that led to the removal of this addon, all have been solved, it's a complete new ball game with the current version. I will test further. note, I may abandon this as it's an increased workload to prepare the addon for Blender.
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hi
Near all issues have been solved with screencast keys & when we removed from Blender originally we said we could bring back if it was fixed & maintained, which it now is.
The only issues I found were insignificant & really corner cases which Tutorial authors know of & avoid easily. Speed clicking & button mashing are not requirements of tutorial authors.
That said, it's currently very much work to prepare the addon for this release which I'm not prepared to do if there's opposition to this addon being re-instated.

hi Near all issues have been solved with screencast keys & when we removed from Blender originally we said we could bring back if it was fixed & maintained, which it now is. The only issues I found were insignificant & really corner cases which Tutorial authors know of & avoid easily. Speed clicking & button mashing are not requirements of tutorial authors. That said, it's currently very much work to prepare the addon for this release which I'm not prepared to do if there's opposition to this addon being re-instated.
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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'
BrendonMurphy closed this issue 6 years ago
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Archiving, no time to do this, instead I will provide link for users who need this addon in the release notes.

Archiving, no time to do this, instead I will provide link for users who need this addon in the release notes.
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