Vulkan: Validation layers potential licensing risks. #102055
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@LazyDodo mentioned a potential licensing risk when using validation layers with vulkan.
Although they are normally used as debug layer and would be normally disabled, the way how they are designed might have a potential security breach.
We should discuss with Ton to make sure this does not backfire.
Vulkan tries to validate everything during develop time. When released validations are and should be disabled. To configure this vulkan uses validation layers.
In normal usage Blender will request the validation layers that they need via
vkCreateInstance
.But it also has an option to enable validation layers from outside blender by an environment variable.
VK_INSTANCE_LAYERS=VK_LAYER_LUNARG_standard_validation ./blender
.So there are 2 ways how non compatible GPL code can be run inside blender.
What could this hostile code do:
From the looks of it, validation layers can perform report callbacks to blender registered callbacks.
So we should only register these callbacks when we actually want to use it and not by default.
The code inside the report callbacks should be to the point and only provide logging.
During normal execution of blender no callbacks should be enabled, and we might want to return
VK_TRUE
as that should abort the running command.Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'
Added subscribers: @LazyDodo, @Jeroen-Bakker, @fclem, @brecht
I created this task as we should validate and check with Ton. But as it is close to the conference I added a ticket to keep track of it.
Added subscriber: @newin
I haven't tried using them in this way myself as I find more convenient to declare those in the code directly but it seems there is a way to enable validation layers in a non-intrusive way using vkconfig shipped with the LunarG SDK:
https://vulkan.lunarg.com/doc/view/1.3.224.1/windows/vkconfig.html
If it work like I understand it does you don't have to ship anything with validation layers.
I hope it solve your issue.
I don't understand what the issue is here, regarding licensing or security.
Environment variables like
LD_PRELOAD
can already be used to change which libraries are loaded by an application, Python add-ons can load arbitrary shared libraries, etc. Enforcing the licensing is not something we can or should do at a technical level.In terms of security, if an attacker can set environment variables the machine is fully compromised already and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
Added subscriber: @Ton
Actually i think it's important to add some context here, the last time this came up was when Academy Software Foundation started hosting openFX and @Ton was "less than thrilled" with the idea of loading possibly closed sourced addons. Given OpenFX and Vulkan are identical in this regard (open spec, GPL compatible loader library, possibly closed source addons, also opensource ones) i figured i'd give you a nudge to go talk to ton, to be sure he's OK with this. Wasn't expecting this to play out in public.
I'm with brecht here, i'm not seeing licensing or security issues
Added subscriber: @Emi_Martinez
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Added subscriber: @vnapdv
I checked with Ton about this Topic and he didn't see an issue with using vulkan validation layers even when they are closed source.
Validation layers will be used to increase the quality of Blenders source code during development and issue solving and will not add user oriented benefits.
Just to clarify the process in the future, bf-admins would be in the lead for these kind of topics.
Added subscriber: @GeorgiaPacific