3.4.1 crash on render scene of 3.4 demo file provided by blender.org #105706

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Gabe E. Nydick · 2023-03-13T00:55:07+01:00

Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-13 00:55:07 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 22H2 (OS Build 22621.1265)

Graphics card: MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X 24G

Blender Version
Broken: 3.4.1, 55485cb379, blender-v3.4-release as found in the About Blender modal
Worked: - none -

Broken Path: Load the blender 3.4 demo file, click "Allow execution" (of scripts), then type F12 to render, crash.
Working Path: Seems like I can get it to work every once in a while if I load the file and wait 5-10 minutes before hitting F12

Event Viewer Data

Faulting application name: blender.exe, version: 3.4.1.0, time stamp: 0x63a11528
Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.22621.900, time stamp: 0xa97a9ed6
Exception code: 0xc0000374
Fault offset: 0x000000000010c249
Faulting process id: 0x0x104C0
Faulting application start time: 0x0x1D95524351AB9F1
Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 3.4\blender.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
Report Id: c72e3691-a17e-4670-bfc7-0612dfc0da5e
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID:

**System Information** Operating system: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 22H2 (OS Build 22621.1265) Graphics card: MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X 24G **Blender Version** Broken: 3.4.1, 55485cb379f7, blender-v3.4-release as found in the About Blender modal Worked: - none - **Broken Path:** Load the blender 3.4 demo file, click "Allow execution" (of scripts), then type F12 to render, crash. **Working Path:** Seems like I can get it to work every once in a while if I load the file and wait 5-10 minutes before hitting F12 Event Viewer Data ``` Faulting application name: blender.exe, version: 3.4.1.0, time stamp: 0x63a11528 Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.22621.900, time stamp: 0xa97a9ed6 Exception code: 0xc0000374 Fault offset: 0x000000000010c249 Faulting process id: 0x0x104C0 Faulting application start time: 0x0x1D95524351AB9F1 Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 3.4\blender.exe Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll Report Id: c72e3691-a17e-4670-bfc7-0612dfc0da5e Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: ```

Blender-3.4.crash.txt

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crashed-blender_debug_output.txt

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not-crashed-blender_debug_output.txt

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blender_system_info.txt

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Iliya Katushenock commented

2023-03-13 06:27:12 +01:00

Hello. I see that the conversion of the mesh in the bmesh for the edge split node is falling. I know Wannes rewrote it for 3.5 on mesh.
Can you confirm that this does not crash on 3.5?

Hello. I see that the conversion of the mesh in the bmesh for the edge split node is falling. I know Wannes rewrote it for 3.5 on mesh. Can you confirm that this does not crash on 3.5?

Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-13 06:45:43 +01:00

it doesn't crash on Linux and it works seemingly if i wait a while before i start the render. does that make any sense in the 3.4 vs 3.5 comparison?

I'll try it and let you know.

it doesn't crash on Linux and it works seemingly if i wait a while before i start the render. does that make any sense in the 3.4 vs 3.5 comparison? I'll try it and let you know.

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Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-14 00:05:19 +01:00

@mod_moder i loaded it on Windows w/3.5 and it worked fine. but it also worked on Linux in w/3.4.

there might be something else going on with my machine that I can't find. has anyone been able to repro this crash?

@mod_moder i loaded it on Windows w/3.5 and it worked fine. but it also worked on Linux in w/3.4. there might be something else going on with my machine that I can't find. has anyone been able to repro this crash?

Iliya Katushenock commented

2023-03-14 06:01:45 +01:00

Not sure which file you are talking about, can you provide a name or a link?

Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-14 07:34:37 +01:00

https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/graphics/blender/demo/splash/blender-3.4.zip

Iliya Katushenock commented

2023-03-14 12:13:26 +01:00

Hey, are you sure these are demo files from blender.org?
There's a gigabyte... wow

Hey, are you sure these are demo files from blender.org? There's a gigabyte... wow

Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-14 22:53:02 +01:00

Yes, these are from blender. It is the splash scene for 3.4.

https://www.blender.org/download/demo-files/ ---> https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/graphics/blender/demo/splash/blender-3.4.zip

Yes, these are from blender. It is the splash scene for 3.4. https://www.blender.org/download/demo-files/ ---> https://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/graphics/blender/demo/splash/blender-3.4.zip

Pratik Borhade commented

2023-03-15 02:44:36 +01:00

Will close if file is running fine in 3.5
Also note that 3.4 is no longer receiving bug fixes.

Will close if file is running fine in 3.5 Also note that 3.4 is no longer receiving bug fixes.

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Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-15 03:09:48 +01:00

please don't close this. i need to know what the deal is here.

it works fine in Linux, but not Windows.

I'm worried i have some bad hardware and can't know if i can stop looking until this is settled.

it seems suspicious that the splash for for the release itself won't render in that release.

please don't close this. i need to know what the deal is here. it works fine in Linux, but not Windows. I'm worried i have some bad hardware and can't know if i can stop looking until this is settled. it seems suspicious that the splash for for the release itself won't render in that release.

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-03-15 07:21:28 +01:00

Works fine here, though it is quite demanding render. @GabeE.Nydick Can you check if you by chance run out of memory?

Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-15 08:23:59 +01:00

if only it were that easy, but it's a good question. i have a TR Pro 5975wx w/128GB and RTX 4090, so no lack of resources.

i do get other unexpected ACCESS_VIOLATION_EXCEPTION errors, like here, in other software, like some games, and I've been trying to figure out why.

I've dug through everything with a fine tooth comb, rooted out 2 bad DIMMs, i have all new NVMe storage, CPU is fine.

i only mention all of this in case anyone has any esoteric knowledge that might reveal some elusive common cause for these exceptions.

if only it were that easy, but it's a good question. i have a TR Pro 5975wx w/128GB and RTX 4090, so no lack of resources. i do get other unexpected ACCESS_VIOLATION_EXCEPTION errors, like here, in other software, like some games, and I've been trying to figure out why. I've dug through everything with a fine tooth comb, rooted out 2 bad DIMMs, i have all new NVMe storage, CPU is fine. i only mention all of this in case anyone has any esoteric knowledge that might reveal some elusive common cause for these exceptions.

Richard Antalik commented

2023-03-16 03:51:05 +01:00

Right, so you should be good as far as HW goes unless you run 5 other renders in background :)
In any case I have noticed, that you only checked 3.4 version. Please download alpha build from https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/, and check if issue persists. Also make sure to check with recent GPU driver.

Right, so you should be good as far as HW goes unless you run 5 other renders in background :) In any case I have noticed, that you only checked 3.4 version. Please download alpha build from https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/, and check if issue persists. Also make sure to check with recent GPU driver.

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Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-16 05:33:33 +01:00

@iss I did try it on 3.5. It worked.

Richard Antalik commented

2023-03-16 06:03:31 +01:00

Thanks for checking, since the issue is resolved, will close.

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Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-16 09:16:00 +01:00

@iss please don't close, one of the questions in this ticket is why does it have no problem in Linux but crashes on Windows?

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-03-17 03:31:38 +01:00

Do you experience crash on windows with 3.5 version? We are not going to investigate bug in 3.4 version as it does not receive fixes anymore.

Gabe E. Nydick commented

2023-03-17 05:05:54 +01:00

I've answered that twice now. Yes, 3.5 on Windows works. But I NEED to know why it doesn't crash on Linux.

Can someone please answer that?

I've answered that twice now. Yes, 3.5 on Windows works. But I NEED to know why it doesn't crash on Linux. Can someone please answer that?

Richard Antalik commented

2023-03-17 05:59:36 +01:00

I've answered that twice now. Yes, 3.5 on Windows works.

Sorry missed that part of conversation (or more likely read it and quickly forgot :/ ).

But I NEED to know why it doesn't crash on Linux.

Can someone please answer that?

Unfortunately I don't think anybody can answer that. It would require developer to reproduce the issue and than investigate it, which won't happen with 3.4 version.

If you suspect HW issues with machine, there are tools to investigate that. The fact, that something works on Linux and not on Windows is not that uncommon though. Just GPU driver is completely different for start. Even Blender code is sometimes platform dependant, so this can happen.

In any case will close now.

> I've answered that twice now. Yes, 3.5 on Windows works. Sorry missed that part of conversation (or more likely read it and quickly forgot :/ ). > But I NEED to know why it doesn't crash on Linux. > > Can someone please answer that? Unfortunately I don't think anybody can answer that. It would require developer to reproduce the issue and than investigate it, which won't happen with 3.4 version. If you suspect HW issues with machine, there are tools to investigate that. The fact, that something works on Linux and not on Windows is not that uncommon though. Just GPU driver is completely different for start. Even Blender code is sometimes platform dependant, so this can happen. In any case will close now.

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