VSE: The unselected, active strip outline covers the gap between strips. #123578

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opened 2024-06-21 23:17:52 +02:00 by tintwotin · 10 comments

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22631-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.12

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Broken: version: 4.3.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2024-06-20 20:53, hash: bbf7940d34af
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
The unselected, active strip outline covers the gap between strips. (In the last minute the outlines were made to overlap, but in that process the unselected active strip outline was properly forgotten, and therefore still covers the black separating line between strips)

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22631-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.12 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.3.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2024-06-20 20:53, hash: `bbf7940d34af` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** The unselected, active strip outline covers the gap between strips. (In the last minute the outlines were made to overlap, but in that process the unselected active strip outline was properly forgotten, and therefore still covers the black separating line between strips) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** <video src="/attachments/0b3cfad2-6abf-4829-a5a9-d6af0eb08118" title="Unselected_active_strip_gap.mp4" controls></video>
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Can confirm.

Can confirm.
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@aras_p looks like it might be from 7fdfa47f23 ?

@aras_p looks like it might be from 7fdfa47f23389fd948d770ca6fdbf044bd5b9e9b ?
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Maybe a simple solution could be to place the thin outline inside the thick outline instead of outside of it (and thereby preserve the vertical separation lines, and keep the size of the strips(inc. outline) consistent).

Maybe a simple solution could be to place the thin outline inside the thick outline instead of outside of it (and thereby preserve the vertical separation lines, and keep the size of the strips(inc. outline) consistent).
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It's not that it covers the gap, but it actually is the outer outline that just changes color from black to white. A solution would be for it to leave the outer dark outline as is, and this active-unselected white line to be inline.

It's not that it covers the gap, but it actually is the outer outline that just changes color from black to white. A solution would be for it to leave the outer dark outline as is, and this active-unselected white line to be inline.

It's not that it covers the gap, but it actually is the outer outline that just changes color from black to white. A solution would be for it to leave the outer dark outline as is, and this active-unselected white line to be inline.

Ok I'll try that.

> It's not that it covers the gap, but it actually is the outer outline that just changes color from black to white. A solution would be for it to leave the outer dark outline as is, and this active-unselected white line to be inline. Ok I'll try that.
Aras Pranckevicius self-assigned this 2024-07-03 21:44:35 +02:00
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@pablovazquez Is a white outline for the active unselected strip, just a bit thinner than the active selected strip outline, the best solution here? It is easily mistaken for the selected active strip, and does lead to confusion.

@pablovazquez Is a white outline for the active unselected strip, just a bit thinner than the active selected strip outline, the best solution here? It is easily mistaken for the selected active strip, and does lead to confusion.

@tintwotin hmm I dunno, to me it looks alright. Here's timeline with some selected strips:
active-0.png

And here's with active but not selected, as it is now on 4.2/main:
active-before.png

vs here's how it would look with Pablo's suggestion:
active-now.png

@tintwotin hmm I dunno, to me it looks alright. Here's timeline with some selected strips: ![active-0.png](/attachments/31378047-e3ca-49f9-86ef-4160b6f2164f) And here's with active but not selected, as it is now on 4.2/main: ![active-before.png](/attachments/f7567fcd-af3b-4c78-8943-386fb44e05ec) vs here's how it would look with Pablo's suggestion: ![active-now.png](/attachments/d691dca7-3cc4-4456-87bc-f99733bc8c79)
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Yes, Pablo's suggestion is better than the current solution. However, when working in the VSE a white outline is a white outline, meaning your brain does not notice the width of the outline. Can something else be done to that outline? Color or being dashed, or add a white transparent overlay to the strip( or header) and remove the white outline or something else? Can we come up with something better and more distinguishable for the active unselected strip?

Yes, Pablo's suggestion is better than the current solution. However, when working in the VSE a white outline is a white outline, meaning your brain does not notice the width of the outline. Can something else be done to that outline? Color or being dashed, or add a white transparent overlay to the strip( or header) and remove the white outline or something else? Can we come up with something better and more distinguishable for the active unselected strip?
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Can something else be done to that outline? Color or being dashed, or add a white transparent overlay to the strip( or header) and remove the white outline or something else? Can we come up with something better and more distinguishable for the active unselected strip?

Not in time for 4.2. But come on, the thickness difference is quite clear:

thickness comparison

Aras' change fixes the gap issue of this report. Let's go with that and if users complain that it's really confusing think of alternatives for the future.

> Can something else be done to that outline? Color or being dashed, or add a white transparent overlay to the strip( or header) and remove the white outline or something else? Can we come up with something better and more distinguishable for the active unselected strip? Not in time for 4.2. But come on, the thickness difference is quite clear: ![thickness comparison](/attachments/a8cba511-c1f1-46c2-a1b5-77e51b6752cf) Aras' change fixes the gap issue of this report. Let's go with that and if users complain that it's really confusing think of alternatives for the future.
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@pablovazquez
A bold A and a normal A are both perceived as an A, the same way as a bold white outline and a white outline are both perceived as selection. Using bold for selected the selected strip and "un-bold" for an unselected strip is simply not clear communication.

@pablovazquez A bold **A** and a normal A are both perceived as an A, the same way as a bold white outline and a white outline are both perceived as selection. Using bold for selected the selected strip and "un-bold" for an unselected strip is simply not clear communication.
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