Regression: Simulation/repeat zone overlay is opaque for frame titles #126836

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opened 2024-08-27 15:01:39 +02:00 by Vyacheslav Kobozev · 6 comments

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.22

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Broken: version: 4.2.1 LTS, branch: blender-v4.2-release, commit date: 2024-08-19 11:21, hash: 396f546c9d82
Worked: 4.1.1

Short description of error
Yes, it was tested with factory settings too.

b4.1, it should work like this:
Blender 4.1.1

b4.2, dynamic frame is opaque for frame`s title
Blender 4.2.1

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Open the file, compare with b4.1 and b4.2 of Blender

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.22 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.2.1 LTS, branch: blender-v4.2-release, commit date: 2024-08-19 11:21, hash: `396f546c9d82` Worked: 4.1.1 **Short description of error** Yes, it was tested with factory settings too. b4.1, it should work like this: ![Blender 4.1.1](/attachments/e532ae1b-d669-4e62-af03-d83402914d5a) b4.2, dynamic frame is opaque for frame`s title ![Blender 4.2.1](/attachments/8229c1da-aa8c-45b8-9d87-17e68e4dfc2a) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Open the [file](/attachments/7e59a44e-8a00-4ba8-8bac-6b16a1dc3d25), compare with b4.1 and b4.2 of Blender
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labels 2024-08-27 15:01:40 +02:00
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Hi, thanks for the report. Can confirm

Hi, thanks for the report. Can confirm
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Worked: 4.1.1

For me, zone overlay is not visible prior to b11d8d2e74
Also, it seems there are intentionally made non transparent: !110697
cc @JacquesLucke

> Worked: 4.1.1 For me, zone overlay is not visible prior to b11d8d2e740e7cd08a1323f19a0dd925af2149bb Also, it seems there are intentionally made non transparent: !110697 cc @JacquesLucke
  1. but it have transparency/alpha in the theme
  2. in the simpliest case, when simulation zone framed, it covers title
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    image

What kind of issues appear with transparency? What is «tricky theming?» @JacquesLucke I am sure, majority of users do not try to achieve exact color, they want to achieve eye-pleasant result.

Also it worked, and worked well.

1) but it have transparency/alpha in the theme 2) in the simpliest case, when simulation zone framed, it covers title ![image](/attachments/971a6b8b-b3c8-4a4c-968d-bf9cca559c84) ![image](/attachments/96d2b171-5100-4891-b986-6bcd4ccc2749) What kind of issues appear with transparency? What is «tricky theming?» @JacquesLucke I am sure, majority of users do not try to achieve exact color, they want to achieve eye-pleasant result. Also it worked, and worked well.
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labels 2024-08-29 12:14:19 +02:00

Just for the future.
Idk if you revert to previous version or fixed it.

Old zone with zero alpha looks this:
image

frames have proper opacity mix and look this:
image

image

zone overlay for some reason is always UNDER frame, which is illogical…

@JacquesLucke , should i report it?

Just for the future. Idk if you revert to previous version or fixed it. Old zone with zero alpha looks this: ![image](/attachments/b7425ac9-501b-4da6-8673-9e03937d4e60) frames have proper opacity mix and look this: ![image](/attachments/c95fece4-d00d-45f0-bf9d-960cf0ba3176) ![image](/attachments/95306d3a-bc4a-47c1-9e55-7382c0048dec) zone overlay for some reason is always UNDER frame, which is illogical… @JacquesLucke , should i report it? <video src="/attachments/b2156ef5-7386-429f-a6b0-48c498bc32d4" title="2024-08-29_15-53-53.mp4" controls></video>
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Zones used to be drawn behind frames, and that was a bug. The fix for that caused the issue in this bug report. The fix I committed earlier today makes it so that frame labels are always drawn on top so they are not hidden by other zones (or frames for that matter).

What kind of issues appear with transparency? What is «tricky theming?»

The tricky thing is that different kinds of zones have different colors which would mix to all kinds of other colors if they had transparency (especially with nested zones). However, the color is also used to communicate what kind of zone it is, so mixing the zone colors makes that kind of useless.

Zones used to be drawn behind frames, and that was a bug. The fix for that caused the issue in this bug report. The fix I committed earlier today makes it so that frame labels are always drawn on top so they are not hidden by other zones (or frames for that matter). > What kind of issues appear with transparency? What is «tricky theming?» The tricky thing is that different kinds of zones have different colors which would mix to all kinds of other colors if they had transparency (especially with nested zones). However, the color is also used to communicate what kind of zone it is, so mixing the zone colors makes that kind of useless.

The fix I committed earlier today makes it so that frame labels are always drawn on top

Okay, that`s reasonable

However, the color is also used to communicate what kind of zone it is, so mixing the zone colors makes that kind of useless.

Oh, I see. I did not think about nested zones. So the border should be opaque, and for zone it is preferable to have alpha noticeably higher than 50% so top color can cover others.

Do you need help with design of this case?

> The fix I committed earlier today makes it so that frame labels are always drawn on top Okay, that`s reasonable >However, the color is also used to communicate what kind of zone it is, so mixing the zone colors makes that kind of useless. Oh, I see. I did not think about nested zones. So the border should be opaque, and for zone it is preferable to have alpha noticeably higher than 50% so top color can cover others. Do you need help with design of this case?
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