User Interface: Disable development extras doesn't disable related options #130159

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Alaska · 2024-11-12T01:06:24+01:00

Alaska commented

2024-11-12 01:06:24 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22631-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA 565.90 Vulkan Backend

Blender Version
Broken: version: 4.3.0 Beta, branch: blender-v4.3-release, commit date: 2024-11-11 19:02, hash: 009fb327eedb
Worked: 4.2 as it did not expose Vulkan to the user

Short description of error
Recently the Vulkan backend was hidden behind the Developer Extras option in user preferences to denote it's not really ready for broad testing.

However there is now a issue. If a user has the Vulkan backend turned on, but Developer Extras turned off, they can no longer find the setting (as expected), but Blender will continue to use the Vulkan backend and the user will be unsure how to disable it.

Generally in other areas of Blender (E.g. Cycles), if a setting is not visible to the user, we use the default, and I believe backend choice should follow that rule.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Open Blender
Open preferences with Edit -> Preferences from the top of Blender
In the Interface tab enable Developer Extras
In the System tab change the backend to Vulkan
Go back to the Interface tab and disable Developer Extras
Save your user preferences and close and reopen Blender
Notice that Blender is using the Vulkan backend (Can be tested with gpu.platform.backend_type_get() in the Python console)

An alternative way to experience this issue is:

Enable Vulkan in a older version of 4.3 that didn't require Developer Extras
Update to a newer version that does
Notice that Vulkan is being used, but you have no idea how to disable it because the menu is gone and you haven't been keeping up to date with development enough to know you need Developer Extra

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22631-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA 565.90 Vulkan Backend **Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.3.0 Beta, branch: blender-v4.3-release, commit date: 2024-11-11 19:02, hash: `009fb327eedb` Worked: 4.2 as it did not expose Vulkan to the user **Short description of error** Recently the Vulkan backend was hidden behind the `Developer Extras` option in user preferences to denote it's not really ready for broad testing. However there is now a issue. If a user has the Vulkan backend turned on, but `Developer Extras` turned off, they can no longer find the setting (as expected), but Blender will continue to use the Vulkan backend and the user will be unsure how to disable it. Generally in other areas of Blender (E.g. Cycles), if a setting is not visible to the user, we use the default, and I believe backend choice should follow that rule. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Open Blender - Open preferences with `Edit -> Preferences` from the top of Blender - In the `Interface` tab enable `Developer Extras` - In the `System` tab change the backend to `Vulkan` - Go back to the `Interface` tab and disable `Developer Extras` - Save your user preferences and close and reopen Blender - Notice that Blender is using the `Vulkan` backend (Can be tested with `gpu.platform.backend_type_get()` in the Python console) An alternative way to experience this issue is: - Enable Vulkan in a older version of 4.3 that didn't require `Developer Extras` - Update to a newer version that does - Notice that Vulkan is being used, but you have no idea how to disable it because the menu is gone and you haven't been keeping up to date with development enough to know you need `Developer Extra`

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Pratik Borhade commented

2024-11-12 04:17:54 +01:00

Hi, can confirm

Pratik Borhade added