Intel HD Graphics bone selection problems in edit mode/pose mode #65138

Operating system: Windows 10
Graphics card: Intel HD

Broken: 2.80, f18373a9ab, master, 2019-05-25

add armature - single bone
go to edit mode
select all
subdivide bone into 2 cuts
deselect all
try to select bones other than the root. (can't select them or their heads)
go to pose mode and the same thing happens

Added subscriber: @moonshutr7

#69361 was marked as duplicate of this issue

#68812 was marked as duplicate of this issue

#69272 was marked as duplicate of this issue

#68527 was marked as duplicate of this issue

#67488 was marked as duplicate of this issue

#67379 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Added subscriber: @brecht

Please try installing the latest graphics drivers from the Intel website if you haven't already.
If that doesn't help, please attach the output of Help > Save System Info, so we can see which specific Intel card and driver version is being used.

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Assuming this was fixed along with #65066 (Armature and bone selection is broken on macOS), if not we can reopen the report.

Hi Brecht,

I'm still having this issue with the recent builds (after I've seen this problem was resolved in MacOS). I already updated my driver. Attached is my system info. T{F7081773}hanks

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Added subscriber: @francisco.fontes

Use Circle tool and activate bone by this addon:
https://github.com/franciscofontes/bone-activator

Added subscribers: @sineostudio, @zeauro

Added subscriber: @Rohit624

I have the same issue with an Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 Intel 4.0.0 with the latest drivers installed.

Added subscriber: @harrisSmith

Exact same problem here ! Intel I3-3220, internal HD Graphics, 8GB DDR3. A work around this problem:
Display the bones in WIRE mode, then they can be selected without problems. If OCTA,ENVELOP, BOX is choosen then they CAN NOT be selected.
Other workaround this that works in POSE only: Using SHAPES ( Custom Bones ) , bones that have custom shapes can be selected. However in Edit mode there is not custom shape representation, so problem persists. Best OPTION: Display as wires and add custom bones to all bones in the armature.
Obviously this does not happen in 2.79b and before,
Regards !

A palliative to help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysga3NmVY6s&t=5s

This should be fixed in the 2.81 daily build I think.
https://builder.blender.org/download

Added subscribers: @jameshollingham, @lichtwerk

Hi everyone, I am going over bone selection reports atm. (there are a couple #68042, #66950, #67208, #69233, #68574).

Since I cannot reproduce this one (on f88022b96f), I'd like to know if this is still an issue?
Please report back so we can get bone selection sorted once and for all... thx in advance!

hi, yes it's still an issue, even on latest builds. thanks

Added subscriber: @fclem

so summing up on the Intel drama, we have:

@moonshutr7 : renderer 'Intel(R) HD Graphics', vendor: 'Intel', version: '4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.5069' (cannot tell what model that actually is...)
@harrisSmith : Intel I3-3220 (Ivy Bridge) : strictly speaking: GPU not supported (see here )
@jameshollingham : HD Graphics 4000 Intel 4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.4358 (Ivy Bridge) : strictly speaking: GPU not supported (see here )
@Rohit624 : intel hd graphics [no more information provided, likely unsupported GPU as well...]
@sineostudio : Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 Intel 4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.4358 (Ivy Bridge) : strictly speaking: GPU not supported (see here )

still confused about the driver build numbers tbh, I can see 10.18.10.5069 being pretty recent, however the build numbers here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/80939/Graphics-Drivers are not anywhere near...
(has anyone tried the ones from the intel site?)

quoting from https://code.blender.org/2019/04/supported-gpus-in-blender-2-80/

Intel graphics for Haswell and newer are supported and generally working well.
See the list of Intel GPUs to check which architecture your processor has.
There are a few bugs planned to be fixed still, related to selection and reflections in Eevee on specific graphics cards.

@fclem: not sure if this selection problems planned to be fixed include this reported issue here (and if that would work on these non Haswell GPUs)?
Anyways, since these GPUs are below the minimum requirements for Blender 2.80, shall we close this now...?

Added subscriber: @vignette

Added subscriber: @AbidMaqbool

Added subscriber: @SirYo

Added subscriber: @SadekMH

It's already resolved (at least in my computer) in the latest 2.81 build (2019-9-11).

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Glad to hear, thx for reporting back...

Added subscriber: @JoyfulJourneys

I was having the same issue as described by the original poster. This issue was happening for me in blender 2.80 official release but is no longer happening in the later development builds for 2.81. Also, the issue is not present using 2.79, but of course, I hope I don't have to use that anymore!

Thank you for keeping blender working great! I hope this fix continues into the new official release!

In #65138#774295, @moonshutr7 wrote:
It's already resolved (at least in my computer) in the latest 2.81 build (2019-9-11).

how to fix sir?

In #65138#775938, @SirYo wrote:

In #65138#774295, @moonshutr7 wrote:
It's already resolved (at least in my computer) in the latest 2.81 build (2019-9-11).

how to fix sir?

just download latest build in https://www.blender.org/download/ - it's already fixed

Added subscriber: @yetanotherblenderuser

I just got that problem in 2.82

I have windows 10 and GTX 1060.

Tbh I don't know how I ended up witht his but right now in pose mode I can select bones only with lasso or clircle selection tool.
Previouysly it worked with any tool.

In #65138#879416, @yetanotherblenderuser wrote:
I just got that problem in 2.82

I have windows 10 and GTX 1060.

Tbh I don't know how I ended up witht his but right now in pose mode I can select bones only with lasso or clircle selection tool.
Previouysly it worked with any tool.

Are you using Intel HD?

I mean Intel CPU

It's most likely a different issue. If you think you found a bug, best to create a new report with example .blend file and all requested system information.
https://developer.blender.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/

yeah it's intel cpu, the thing is I don't know how to reproduce it now :( I selected separate object and bone from armature of another object and parented it (ctrl+p).
Later, I reloaded backup file and I tried the same thing and it didn't broke bones selection, aparently there is another condition which is causing this

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Intel HD Graphics bone selection problems in edit mode/pose mode #65138