I can't save a startup file #77813

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opened 2020-06-12 21:19:16 +02:00 by Malcolm Nadeau · 18 comments

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 441.28

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.83.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-03 14:38, hash: 211b6c29f7
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
I find it very useful to be able to save a startup file.
I'm transforming hundreds of SVGs as FBX to import into Unity.
Normally I'm able to save my script, my layout without any camera or lights.
Not being able to make an adjustment to the default layout I'm forced to find a work-around.
Please reinstate this function.

Annotation 2020-06-12 151005.png

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  • open Blender 2.83,
  • click on the Script tab
  • to create a new text file,
  • copy and paste this code into file:
import bpy
bpy.ops.object.convert(target='MESH')
bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle()
bpy.ops.mesh.select_all(action='SELECT')
bpy.ops.mesh.remove_doubles()
bpy.ops.mesh.beautify_fill()
bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle()
bpy.ops.object.select_all(action='SELECT')
bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle()
bpy.ops.mesh.flip_normals()
bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle()
bpy.ops.object.join()
  • click on Layout tab,
  • select all,
  • erase all,
  • click File>Defaults>Startup File,
  • click Save Startup File.
  • close program and reopen it.
    if you see nothing has changed then do the Macarena and squawk like a chiken.
    We're never gonna survive unless, we get a little crazy. :)
**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 441.28 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.83.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-03 14:38, hash: `211b6c29f7` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** I find it very useful to be able to save a startup file. I'm transforming hundreds of SVGs as FBX to import into Unity. Normally I'm able to save my script, my layout without any camera or lights. Not being able to make an adjustment to the default layout I'm forced to find a work-around. Please reinstate this function. ![Annotation 2020-06-12 151005.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8612657/Annotation_2020-06-12_151005.png) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - open Blender 2.83, - click on the Script tab - to create a new text file, - copy and paste this code into file: ``` import bpy bpy.ops.object.convert(target='MESH') bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle() bpy.ops.mesh.select_all(action='SELECT') bpy.ops.mesh.remove_doubles() bpy.ops.mesh.beautify_fill() bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle() bpy.ops.object.select_all(action='SELECT') bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle() bpy.ops.mesh.flip_normals() bpy.ops.object.editmode_toggle() bpy.ops.object.join() ``` - click on Layout tab, - select all, - erase all, - click File>Defaults>Startup File, - click Save Startup File. - close program and reopen it. if you see nothing has changed then do the Macarena and squawk like a chiken. We're never gonna survive unless, we get a little crazy. :)
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Added subscriber: @MalcolmNadeau

Added subscriber: @MalcolmNadeau
Author

I hope this oversight is managed quickly.
And I do appreciate this tool and the work that has gone into it.
So, thank you very much.

I hope this oversight is managed quickly. And I do appreciate this tool and the work that has gone into it. So, thank you very much.

Added subscriber: @blumia

Added subscriber: @blumia

Same here, with the same version and same environment, can reproduce this issue on three of my computers.

I also keeped a blender 2.82a which works fine, then I tried to copy my 2.82a userpref.blend file from %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.82\config\ to %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config, then it works properly, the 2.83 "Save Startup File" menu option also works as expected after I did that. Following is the working userpref.blend file from my 2.82 config folder, hope it can be a workaround before a fix comes out.

userpref.blend

Same here, with the same version and same environment, can reproduce this issue on three of my computers. I also keeped a blender 2.82a which works fine, then I tried to copy my 2.82a userpref.blend file from %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.82\config\ to %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config\, then it works properly, the 2.83 "Save Startup File" menu option also works as expected after I did that. Following is the working userpref.blend file from my 2.82 config folder, hope it can be a workaround before a fix comes out. [userpref.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8615727/userpref.blend)
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Thank you Sir Gary,
you are an officer and a gentleman.
I'll just offer a little suggestion and that's not to be ungrateful.
I think it would be better if you lay out your instructions in point form.
I'll do so here in case someone else stumbles on this thread.

Blender 2.83's function to save user settings doesn't work.
Both Gary and myself have experienced this issue, Gary having made several attempts on different computers.
The workaround is this...

  • You must have an earlier and working version of Blender installed such as 2.81 or 2.82. -

1 - In Windows press Windows Key and E on your keyboard (or open the file explorer without the shortcut)
2 - Copy this:

   %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.82\config\
   You may be using a different version of Blender like 2.81 so you will want to make that adjustment manually
   and paste it into the address bar (If what is being referred to is not clear, the address bar displays where the folders and files are located on your computer... example C:\Users\Bob\Documents)
   press Enter

3 - In this location you will see a file named

   userpref.blend
   This is the file you need to copy to then paste it in the location of your new installation of Blender.
   %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config\
   As you can see, it's the same file structure for the new blender.

4 - Now you can open Blender 2.83 and your settings will be adjusted to your preference.

Thank you, and this has not been a paid message.
May you go with God, may life be kind, may your children grow strong and make you proud.
;)
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Thank you Sir Gary, you are an officer and a gentleman. I'll just offer a little suggestion and that's not to be ungrateful. I think it would be better if you lay out your instructions in point form. I'll do so here in case someone else stumbles on this thread. Blender 2.83's function to save user settings doesn't work. Both Gary and myself have experienced this issue, Gary having made several attempts on different computers. The workaround is this... - You must have an earlier and working version of Blender installed such as 2.81 or 2.82. - 1 - In Windows press Windows Key and E on your keyboard (or open the file explorer without the shortcut) 2 - Copy this: ``` %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.82\config\ You may be using a different version of Blender like 2.81 so you will want to make that adjustment manually and paste it into the address bar (If what is being referred to is not clear, the address bar displays where the folders and files are located on your computer... example C:\Users\Bob\Documents) press Enter ``` 3 - In this location you will see a file named ``` userpref.blend This is the file you need to copy to then paste it in the location of your new installation of Blender. %APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config\ As you can see, it's the same file structure for the new blender. ``` 4 - Now you can open Blender 2.83 and your settings will be adjusted to your preference. Thank you, and this has not been a paid message. May you go with God, may life be kind, may your children grow strong and make you proud. ;) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8616649/image.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8616653/image.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8616686/image.png)

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

I cannot reproduce this with either the latest stable or current development versions of Blender:
Please try the latest daily build: https://builder.blender.org/download/

Maybe there is a setup on the computer that needs to be described in the steps to reproduce the bug?

I cannot reproduce this with either the latest stable or current development versions of Blender: Please try the latest daily build: https://builder.blender.org/download/ Maybe there is a setup on the computer that needs to be described in the steps to reproduce the bug?

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Confirmed'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Confirmed'

I can confirm with the official version of blender 2.80, installing through the installer (not the zip)

I can confirm with the official version of blender 2.80, installing through the installer (not the zip)

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs User Info'

False alarm. (I mistook "Save Startup File" for "Save preferences")

False alarm. (I mistook "Save Startup File" for "Save preferences")

To reproduce this issue, we need a clean environment with blender 2.83 just installed. I use the zip version instead of the installer. The reproduce steps:

  • Make sure your computer never run blender 2.83 before, or by remove all the files under '%APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config'
  • Open blender 2.83 by double clicking the blender.exe executable (FYI, build hash: 211b6c29f7).
  • Just delete the default cube.
  • Click File>Defaults>Startup File, click Save Startup File.
  • Close the program and re-open it.
  • Check the result (the default cube is still there).

My environment is Windows 10 version 1909 (18363.900).

For the workaround I provided above:

  • Do the above steps to reproduce the issue first.
  • Copy the working 'userpref.blend' file form my 2.82a folder ('%APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.82\config') to '%APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config'. (or use the one I uploaded here, I guess it will also works)
  • Open blender 2.83, and we can see the default cube is deleted which means it's working.

It seems the start-up file is saved but blender is still loading the factory preset instead of the user custom startup file..

Let me know if you need any additional info. Thanks.

To reproduce this issue, we need a **clean** environment with blender 2.83 just installed. I use the zip version instead of the installer. The reproduce steps: - Make sure your computer never run blender 2.83 before, or by remove all the files under '%APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config\' - Open blender 2.83 by double clicking the blender.exe executable (FYI, build hash: 211b6c29f771). - Just delete the default cube. - Click File>Defaults>Startup File, click Save Startup File. - Close the program and re-open it. - Check the result (the default cube is still there). My environment is Windows 10 version 1909 (18363.900). For the workaround I provided above: - Do the above steps to reproduce the issue first. - Copy the working 'userpref.blend' file form my 2.82a folder ('%APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.82\config\') to '%APPDATA%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\config\'. (or use the one I uploaded here, I guess it will also works) - Open blender 2.83, and we can see the default cube is deleted which means it's working. It seems the start-up file is saved but blender is still loading the factory preset instead of the user custom startup file.. Let me know if you need any additional info. Thanks.

Just tested this issue under my Archlinux/KDE installation with blender installed from official Arch repo (blender 17:2.83-1), do the exact same steps, and also can reproduce this issue.

  • Make sure your computer never run blender 2.83 before, or by remove all the files under '~/.config/blender/2.83/config/'
  • Open blender 2.83 by double clicking the blender application icon from the plasma application dashboard (FYI, build hash: 211b6c29f7).
  • Just delete the default cube.
  • Click File>Defaults>Startup File, click Save Startup File.
  • Close the program and re-open it.
  • Check the result (the default cube is still there).

The above workaround also works:

  • Do the above steps to reproduce the issue first.
  • Copy the working 'userpref.blend' file form my 2.82a folder ('~/.config/blender/2.82/config/') to '~/.config/blender/2.83/config/'.
  • Open blender 2.83, and we can see the default cube is deleted which means it's working.
Just tested this issue under my Archlinux/KDE installation with blender installed from official Arch repo (blender 17:2.83-1), do the exact same steps, and also can reproduce this issue. - Make sure your computer never run blender 2.83 before, or by remove all the files under '~/.config/blender/2.83/config/' - Open blender 2.83 by double clicking the blender application icon from the plasma application dashboard (FYI, build hash: 211b6c29f771). - Just delete the default cube. - Click File>Defaults>Startup File, click Save Startup File. - Close the program and re-open it. - Check the result (the default cube is still there). The above workaround also works: - Do the above steps to reproduce the issue first. - Copy the working 'userpref.blend' file form my 2.82a folder ('~/.config/blender/2.82/config/') to '~/.config/blender/2.83/config/'. - Open blender 2.83, and we can see the default cube is deleted which means it's working.

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

This report is already getting very confusing.
A lot of pertinent information is scattered in the comments.
And I'm not sure which to look at first.

This is too time consuming for us to track down and we require the bug reporter to narrow down the problem.

Please, could you make another report showing in a few steps how to reproduce the problem?

This report is already getting very confusing. A lot of pertinent information is scattered in the comments. And I'm not sure which to look at first. This is too time consuming for us to track down and we require the bug reporter to narrow down the problem. Please, could you make another report showing in a few steps how to reproduce the problem?

Closed as duplicate of #78037

Closed as duplicate of #78037

In #77813#958440, @mano-wii wrote:
This report is already getting very confusing.
A lot of pertinent information is scattered in the comments.
And I'm not sure which to look at first.

This is too time consuming for us to track down and we require the bug reporter to narrow down the problem.

I believe my reproduce steps is the minimum one, you just need to make sure your environment is clean and do a "delete the default cube and save it as startup file" steps.

Please, could you make another report showing in a few steps how to reproduce the problem?

Here you go https://developer.blender.org/T78037 :)

> In #77813#958440, @mano-wii wrote: > This report is already getting very confusing. > A lot of pertinent information is scattered in the comments. > And I'm not sure which to look at first. > > This is too time consuming for us to track down and we require the bug reporter to narrow down the problem. I believe my reproduce steps is the minimum one, you just need to **make sure your environment is clean** and do a "delete the default cube and save it as startup file" steps. > Please, could you make another report showing in a few steps how to reproduce the problem? Here you go https://developer.blender.org/T78037 :)
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