The Render Region Border gizmo only appears if a camera is selected or if there is no active object #81543

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Dinar Kurmakov · 2020-10-08T15:46:47+02:00

Dinar Kurmakov commented

2020-10-08 15:46:47 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 980/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 451.67

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-10-07 21:43, hash: d8fcd8a316

Short description of error
The UI control elements of the 'Render Region' only appear if the camera is selected or if there is no camera or active object in the scene (by deleting an object, for example).

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Create new file and delete all objects in scene.
Draw Render Region border (View --> View Regions --> Render Region or press CTRL+B).
By dragging UI controls adjust Render Region border size.
Add couple of objects to scene and draw Render Region border - UI controls aren't active now.
Delete one of the objects and adjust Render Region border size.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 980/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 451.67 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-10-07 21:43, hash: `d8fcd8a316` **Short description of error** The UI control elements of the 'Render Region' only appear if the camera is selected or if there is no camera or active object in the scene (by deleting an object, for example). <video src="https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8967912/DGSu5HJRQg.mp4" constrols></video> **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1. Create new file and delete all objects in scene. 2. Draw Render Region border (View --> View Regions --> Render Region or press CTRL+B). 3. By dragging UI controls adjust Render Region border size. 4. Add couple of objects to scene and draw Render Region border - UI controls aren't active now. 5. Delete one of the objects and adjust Render Region border size.

Dinar Kurmakov commented

2020-10-08 15:46:47 +02:00

Added subscriber: @d1nar

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-08 18:41:20 +02:00

Added subscribers: @HooglyBoogly, @WilliamReynish, @JulianEisel, @ideasman42, @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-08 18:41:20 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-08 18:41:20 +02:00

Well, in order to see the controls, you need to select the Camera (same as the the scene Camera).
[check in code is a bit weak, so if there is no camera as well as no active object, both are the some (NULL) and you will also see the controls]

This was a conscious choice, see 3311505fd0. So this is not a bug.
Tbh, I dont think this is the best choice though either.

it is not very obvious having to select the camera [in Camera view this might be easier to grasp, but in free perspective view this is less obvious]
OTOH, it might still be useful to "not have the border always in the way, stealing mouse clicks from regular usage"

Will also think about a better way to do this [not sure how to solve this best, maybe @WilliamReynish, @HooglyBoogly or @JulianEisel have an idea here?]
(could just add a button in the corner to enable/disable controls, but this is also not very elegant)
If we dont find a better solution, I would even think that showing it always is better than only showing it when the camera is selected.

CC @ideasman42

Well, in order to see the controls, you need to select the Camera (same as the the scene Camera). [check in code is a bit weak, so if there is no camera as well as no active object, both are the some (NULL) and you will also see the controls] This was a conscious choice, see 3311505fd0. So this is not a bug. Tbh, I dont think this is the best choice though either. - it is not very obvious having to select the camera [in Camera view this might be easier to grasp, but in free perspective view this is less obvious] - OTOH, it might still be useful to "not have the border always in the way, stealing mouse clicks from regular usage" Will also think about a better way to do this [not sure how to solve this best, maybe @WilliamReynish, @HooglyBoogly or @JulianEisel have an idea here?] (could just add a button in the corner to enable/disable controls, but this is also not very elegant) If we dont find a better solution, I would even think that showing it always is better than only showing it when the camera is selected. CC @ideasman42

Philipp Oeser changed title from ~~Render Region UI elements bug~~ to Improve Render Region Border UI (show/hide the control gizmo)

2020-10-08 18:42:34 +02:00

Hans Goudey commented

2020-10-08 21:29:48 +02:00

I agree it's quite weird to tie the visibility to the camera selection, since the border works in the viewport you might not even care about the camera at that point.

I agree that it's not so bad to always leave the gizmos on. You can always clear the border if they get annoying.

We could put a setting here if people really want a way to turn them off:

I agree it's quite weird to tie the visibility to the camera selection, since the border works in the viewport you might not even care about the camera at that point. I agree that it's not so bad to always leave the gizmos on. You can always clear the border if they get annoying. We could put a setting here if people really want a way to turn them off: ![F8968884](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8968884/image.png)

Brecht Van Lommel added this to the Render & Cycles project 2023-02-07 19:08:06 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante changed title from ~~Improve Render Region Border UI (show/hide the control gizmo)~~ to The Render Region Border gizmo only appears if a camera is selected or if there is no active object

2024-02-14 19:47:05 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante referenced this issue

2024-02-14 19:48:47 +01:00

Why region render needs in 3dv needs camera to be editted [not really a bug] #118282

Rombout Versluijs commented

2024-02-15 01:15:58 +01:00

I also notice before but didn't think about reporting it. Yet I bumped into it again and didn't remember I had to have a camera active. This makes no sense, since the region render of the 3dview is not connected to any camera.

I would opt of either a gizmo setting or a setting below the "render region" checkbox. Something like "show manipulator" "show handles".

A new user will never know this behavior or workflow.

I also notice before but didn't think about reporting it. Yet I bumped into it again and didn't remember I had to have a camera active. This makes no sense, since the region render of the 3dview is not connected to any camera. I would opt of either a gizmo setting or a setting below the "render region" checkbox. Something like "show manipulator" "show handles". A new user will never know this behavior or workflow.

Rombout Versluijs commented

2024-02-16 16:16:59 +01:00

Why not add it to the Gizmo menu, here it already shows other gizmos.

Currently the region render also shows weird behavior if we compared 3dv region vs camera region. Notice how different they behave when toggle overlays ON?OFF

Why not add it to the Gizmo menu, here it already shows other gizmos. Currently the region render also shows weird behavior if we compared 3dv region vs camera region. Notice how different they behave when toggle overlays ON?OFF

region-render-3dv-gizmo.png

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Weird behavior region render gizmo overlays.mp4

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The Render Region Border gizmo only appears if a camera is selected or if there is no active object #81543