Select Grouped for Animation Editors #86180

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opened 2021-03-02 06:53:44 +01:00 by Luciano Muñoz Sessarego · 5 comments

Luciano Muñoz Sessarego commented

2021-03-02 06:53:44 +01:00

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The Select Grouped menu in the 3D view is widely used and useful, Implementing it in the animation editors would be really useful with many possible options:

Select Grouped by

Channel type (example if I have a key selected from X translation, it will select all the keys that are in the x translation of the visible object, if I have a key selected from x translation and y rotation, it will select all the keys that match this pattern)
Key Type
Interpolation Type
Modifiers (see https://developer.blender.org/T86179)

I think these are the main use cases for the select grouped function in the animation editors and it would allow for faster workflows in many cases that now just take a lots of clicks.

The Select Grouped menu in the 3D view is widely used and useful, Implementing it in the animation editors would be really useful with many possible options: Select Grouped by - Channel type *(example if I have a key selected from X translation, it will select all the keys that are in the x translation of the visible object, if I have a key selected from x translation and y rotation, it will select all the keys that match this pattern)* - Key Type - Interpolation Type - Modifiers (see https://developer.blender.org/T86179) I think these are the main use cases for the select grouped function in the animation editors and it would allow for faster workflows in many cases that now just take a lots of clicks.

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RedMser self-assigned this 2022-04-29 20:04:49 +02:00

RedMser commented

2022-04-29 20:04:49 +02:00

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I'm interested in this feature and started working on it.

See #104758 for the PR.

I'm interested in this feature and started working on it. See #104758 for the PR.

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~~RedMser referenced this issue 2023-02-14 19:17:15 +01:00~~

WIP: Animation: Select Grouped operator #104758

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WIP: Animation: Select Grouped operator #104758

RedMser commented

2023-02-16 19:57:40 +01:00

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Open Design Questions

Some modes (such as Channel Type or Modifiers) check a trait of the channel, even though it acts based on the selected keyframe.
- Current implementation: retrieve the traits of the channel(s) of all the selected keyframes.
- But this is very confusing if you don't have any selected keyframe, but only select a channel.
  - Idea 1: If no keyframe is selected, use the selected channel as input instead.
  - Idea 2: Only take the channel selection into account, ignore keyframe selection for these (but this may be confusing? I personally really don't like working with channel selection in Dopesheet...)
- Also, the channels don't end up getting selected, which makes some operators like "Make Cyclic" not work correctly.
  - Idea: select a channel if all of its keyframes got selected by this operator.
How should the Modifiers mode work?
- Current implementation: the same set of modifiers of a given type must be present. So Cyclic ≠ Noise ≠ Cyclic+Noise.
- But if you want to e.g. select all cyclic channels, it's not possible if there's other modifiers too.
- Not sure what use-cases there are, besides for cyclic.
- Idea: A mode "Is Cyclic" might be helpful here?
Maybe add an "Invert" option to the operator? So select any keyframes that don't match the pattern.
- While you can use the invert selection operator, it won't combine well with the "Extend" checkbox. Not sure if this is a common enough use-case to be worth adding.
There's no mode for selecting all keyframes of a channel. But I think this should be a new operator, not a mode of Select Grouped.
Datablock mode should probably also be split to another operator (or maybe an option of "Select All"?), it doesn't fit with the rest.
Grease Pencil modes.
- Need to talk with the GP module about this, since I don't use GP at all.

Feel free to comment on any points, add suggestions, etc. :)

# Open Design Questions - [ ] Some modes (such as Channel Type or Modifiers) check a trait of the *channel*, even though it acts based on the *selected keyframe*. - Current implementation: retrieve the traits of the channel(s) of all the selected keyframes. - But this is very confusing if you don't have any selected keyframe, but only select a channel. - Idea 1: If no keyframe is selected, use the selected channel as input instead. - Idea 2: Only take the channel selection into account, ignore keyframe selection for these (but this may be confusing? I personally really don't like working with channel selection in Dopesheet...) - Also, the channels don't end up getting selected, which makes some operators like "Make Cyclic" not work correctly. - Idea: select a channel if all of its keyframes got selected by this operator. - [ ] How should the Modifiers mode work? - Current implementation: the same set of modifiers of a given type must be present. So Cyclic ≠ Noise ≠ Cyclic+Noise. - But if you want to e.g. select all cyclic channels, it's not possible if there's other modifiers too. - Not sure what use-cases there are, besides for cyclic. - Idea: A mode "Is Cyclic" might be helpful here? - [ ] Maybe add an "Invert" option to the operator? So select any keyframes that don't match the pattern. - While you can use the invert selection operator, it won't combine well with the "Extend" checkbox. Not sure if this is a common enough use-case to be worth adding. - [ ] There's no mode for selecting all keyframes of a channel. But I think this should be a new operator, not a mode of Select Grouped. - [ ] Datablock mode should probably also be split to another operator (or maybe an option of "Select All"?), it doesn't fit with the rest. - [ ] Grease Pencil modes. - Need to talk with the GP module about this, since I don't use GP at all. Feel free to comment on any points, add suggestions, etc. :)

Alaska commented

2024-04-07 06:09:37 +02:00

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I am removing the Needs Triage label. This is under the general rule that Design and TODO tasks should not have a status.

If you believe this task is no longer relevant, feel free to close it.

I am removing the `Needs Triage` label. This is under the general rule that Design and TODO tasks should not have a status. If you believe this task is no longer relevant, feel free to close it.

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