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In the near future we will start to better differentiate between Blender versions in order to aid users who run multiple versions simultaneously:
{F13972120,width=100%}
{F13972101,width=100%}
This makes it a good time to consider adding the Blender version to the title bar to help differentiate running versions. Currently the longest form of the title bar text looks like this:
{F13972103,width=100%}
It is without version numbers. The asterisk that indicates that the file is "dirty" is anchored to the program name. The file path is in (odd) square brackets, which looks especially messy when the file has been recovered.
I propose that we include the version number. Major and Minor version and only add patch version if non-zero. Append Greek small letter alpha "α" in early Bcon stages, small letter beta "β" in beta stages.
Separate the Blender name and version from the file path portions with SPACE - EN DASH - SPACE. The en dash is used traditionally as a sentence-level pause or interrupter.
Do not surround the path with any brackets.
Move the "file is dirty" indicator to the end.
This results in the following examples:
{F13972111,width=100%}
{F13972113,width=100%}
{F13972115,width=100%}
The above just deals with files that have been saved at one time. But what to display before any saving has occurred? Currently we always just show "Blender" regardless if the file is dirty or not, even though we do know its dirty state.
I'd be inclined to show only the name and version if unsaved and unchanged, so initial loading state:
{F13973733,width=100%}
But once any changes are made, display it as:
{F13973726,width=100%}
Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'
Added subscriber: @Harley
Added subscribers: @ideasman42, @pablovazquez, @HooglyBoogly, @brecht, @JulianEisel
I don't think we should include the version number in the title. Some distinction between alpha/beta and release seems reasonable, but I think this is too much clutter when scanning over multiple window titles looking for the right blend file.
Our competitors show such things as "Autodesk 3ds Max 2018", "Autodesk Maya 2019", "CINEMA 4D R16.050 Broadcast (R16)" in title, along with the full path just like us.
Right, but I don't think that's great, and plenty of other apps don't show the version number.
Added subscriber: @DuarteRamos
I wouldn't mind seeing version numbers in the title bar as well, it helps in a lot of situations when running multiple installs in parallel, testing different builds or diagnosing issues remotely from screenshots.
But I can see how it may add some clutter.
Would making window titles reachable though the python API somehow make it any better? Maybe (part of) it could be customized through scripting by combining strings, accessible through preferences.
"Blender" + Version + Save_State + Blend_Full_Path + "Random User StringWe might be looking at this quite differently. I see the top of these two samples being far more cluttered and harder to quickly read the file path:
{F13977032,width=100%}
Added subscriber: @Nurb2Kea
On MacOS it looks like this and all the info is there already!
right mouse click to see the path structure
Statusbar (blender version):
Looks clean and compact with all info needed.
Just an idea to keep it simple and consistant between Linux, Mac & Windows etc...
Added subscriber: @triget
This is faulty thinking. Displaying the program version in the bar avoids many problems such as switching versions. There is no need to look in other windows to see what version of Blender we have installed.
Added subscriber: @jacek007g
It looks way cleaner and better than old version. Especially the asterisk on the end of the line - it's a lot more visible status of the file.
However I think that it would be better to use Latin minor "a" and "b" than Greek letters.
Added subscriber: @persun
Added subscriber: @Grady
What about this format:
ICON FILENAME (STATUS) - FOLDER - BLENDER_VERSION
Where:
With one additional change, instead of using an asterisk to represent 'unsaved', we use a text label to be more explicit in the communication.
So instead of:
*- [x] Blender 3.5 - C:\Users\John\Documents\Blends\Example.blend We could have:- [x] Example.blend (Unsaved) - C:\Users\John\Documents\Blends - Blender 3.5β
The logic for putting the filename first is - If you have multiple versions of Blender open, and you're looking at your taskbar to find a specific file you have open to switch to, what are you going to be looking for? Probably the filename of the Blend file in the title. But with that all the way at the end of the window title, the only way to see that would be to hover your mouse over each individual Blend file to see the filename in the hovertext.
And if you need to put your cursor over each taskbar icon anyway you might as well click on them instead, since there's a delay while waiting for the hovertext that is slower than clicking on the window to switch to it.
For example:
Putting the filename at the start would resolve that. You don't really 'need' the application name at the start, because it's fairly obvious what the application is by the orange Blender icon.
Is there any new information regarding this change? It's a quick task that will help a lot of users (it's cursory to prioritize these changes, because it should have been fixed a long time ago) and it doesn't make sense to wait "5 years" again for any changes.