Wheeling Tabs in Sidebar Up and Down #110503

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opened 2023-07-26 18:03:14 +02:00 by NickStan · 8 comments

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 536.67

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Broken: version: 4.0.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-05-17 11:39, hash: df48490db2c3
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Now way to change a Keymap/Shortcut for Sidebar scrolling up/down

--Let me describe my issue detailed--

When I speak about scrolling up/down, I mean that feature when you are going to jump up in another Tab in Sidebar. When you are switching between several add-ons that you have. In version 3.5.1 and olders we can scroll by simply wheeling middle button up and down. In newest versions as 3.6.1 or 4.0.0 Alpha we need to press CTRL as well and then wheeling up and down. So, I would prefer to have a choice how to scroll. For me personally, simply wheeling without CTRL (as it was in previous version as 3.5.1) is more preferred and comfortable. I hope, you will add a way to change it in the up-coming Stable releases. And thanks for you time spent reading this. I love Blender and wish you the Best!

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  • Open Preferences -> Keymap and try to find a line where this function exists
  • This is not a general bug when something doesn't work or works incorrectly. It is a missing feature I would like to see
**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 536.67 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.0.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-05-17 11:39, hash: `df48490db2c3` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Now way to change a Keymap/Shortcut for Sidebar scrolling up/down --Let me describe my issue detailed-- When I speak about scrolling up/down, I mean that feature when you are going to jump up in another Tab in Sidebar. When you are switching between several add-ons that you have. In version 3.5.1 and olders we can scroll by simply wheeling middle button up and down. In newest versions as 3.6.1 or 4.0.0 Alpha we need to press CTRL as well and then wheeling up and down. So, I would prefer to have a choice how to scroll. For me personally, simply wheeling without CTRL (as it was in previous version as 3.5.1) is more preferred and comfortable. I hope, you will add a way to change it in the up-coming Stable releases. And thanks for you time spent reading this. I love Blender and wish you the Best! **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Open Preferences -> Keymap and try to find a line where this function exists - This is not a general bug when something doesn't work or works incorrectly. It is a missing feature I would like to see
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I believe the behavior has changed with c0e757a713

Because of the line:
https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/blame/branch/main/source/blender/editors/interface/interface_panel.cc#L2260

The commit description is unclear whether this change was intentional.

@guishe, @pablovazquez

I believe the behavior has changed with c0e757a713cd8845f1e9a7e174ae7008412bab5b Because of the line: https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/blame/branch/main/source/blender/editors/interface/interface_panel.cc#L2260 The commit description is unclear whether this change was intentional. @guishe, @pablovazquez
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Previously, the side panel tabs had no scroll so the content was truncated, Wheel Up/Down just switch between tabs. Now there is scroll in side panel tabs, so Wheel Up/Down is used now for scroll. Ctrl+Wheel Up/Down was used in property space to switch the active tab (in the navigation bar) since before the commit, so the same shortcut is now use to switch between tabs in the side panel.

This is not a issue, this is a proposal to be able to configure wheel up/down to switch the active tab in the side panel, and Ctrl+Wheel up/down to make the scroll.

Previously, the side panel tabs had no scroll so the content was truncated, `Wheel Up/Down` just switch between tabs. Now there is scroll in side panel tabs, so `Wheel Up/Down` is used now for scroll. `Ctrl+Wheel Up/Down` was used in property space to switch the active tab (in the navigation bar) since before the commit, so the same shortcut is now use to switch between tabs in the side panel. This is not a issue, this is a proposal to be able to configure `wheel up/down` to switch the active tab in the side panel, and `Ctrl+Wheel up/down` to make the scroll.

Thanks for the info @guishe, it makes sense.
So I'm closing this report.

@NickStan, for user requests and feedback, you can use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests

Thanks for the info @guishe, it makes sense. So I'm closing this report. @NickStan, for user requests and feedback, you can use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests
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@guishe things that you say really make sense, but I just want to ask about an opportunity to change the Hotkeys and be able to make the scroll by Wheel up/down and to switch the active tab by Ctrl+Wheel up/down. Shortly, just reverse Hotkeys. Can I expect to have such an opportunity?

@guishe things that you say really make sense, but I just want to ask about an opportunity to change the Hotkeys and be able to make the scroll by Wheel up/down and to switch the active tab by Ctrl+Wheel up/down. Shortly, just reverse Hotkeys. Can I expect to have such an opportunity?
NickStan reopened this issue 2023-07-26 23:32:04 +02:00
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It's still a feature request, not a issue, there are other channels for it.

Current behavior gives a more generalized user experience.
Adding a configuration as such would not be bad, but it could generate discussion,
like why only for the sidebar tabs and not also the properties space tabs?

It's still a feature request, not a issue, there are other channels for it. Current behavior gives a more generalized user experience. Adding a configuration as such would not be bad, but it could generate discussion, like why only for the sidebar tabs and not also the properties space tabs?
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like why only for the sidebar tabs and not also the properties space tabs?

I agree, the behaviour needs to be consistent, otherwise it needs to be configurable.

in c0e757a713, when there are multiple side tabs, it can get squeezed, hence I understand the issue where it needs scrolling to prevent compressing the tab too much, however maybe keeping the interaction can be more convenient. So I propose:

  • Wheel up and down to switch tabs.
  • When active tab gone out of view from wheeling, scroll the tab list.
  • Ctrl-wheel to scroll tab list.
> like why only for the sidebar tabs and not also the properties space tabs? I agree, the behaviour needs to be consistent, otherwise it needs to be configurable. in c0e757a713, when there are multiple side tabs, it can get squeezed, hence I understand the issue where it needs scrolling to prevent compressing the tab too much, however maybe keeping the interaction can be more convenient. So I propose: - Wheel up and down to switch tabs. - When active tab gone out of view from wheeling, scroll the tab list. - Ctrl-wheel to scroll tab list.
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  • Wheel up and down to switch tabs.
  • When active tab gone out of view from wheeling, scroll the tab list.
  • Ctrl-wheel to scroll tab list.

I just want to ask about an opportunity to change the Hotkeys and be able to make the scroll by Wheel up/down and to switch the active tab by Ctrl+Wheel up/down

Current behavior of wheel up/down to scroll tab list makes more sense actually (consistent with other areas and applications)
Anyways, @pablovazquez @guishe any opinion?
Otherwise we can close this report since this is not a bug.

> - Wheel up and down to switch tabs. > - When active tab gone out of view from wheeling, scroll the tab list. > - Ctrl-wheel to scroll tab list. - - - > I just want to ask about an opportunity to change the Hotkeys and be able to make the scroll by Wheel up/down and to switch the active tab by Ctrl+Wheel up/down Current behavior of wheel up/down to scroll tab list makes more sense actually (consistent with other areas and applications) Anyways, @pablovazquez @guishe any opinion? Otherwise we can close this report since this is not a bug.
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The shortcut changing was a design decision for consistency with other areas (like the tabs in the Properties editor). The commit log message could have been more clear about this user-facing change.

It'd be great if it could be configured but that's a feature request indeed. This bug report can be closed @PratikPB2123

The shortcut changing was a design decision for consistency with other areas (like the tabs in the Properties editor). The commit log message could have been more clear about this user-facing change. It'd be great if it could be configured but that's a feature request indeed. This bug report can be closed @PratikPB2123
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