Blender 3.6 'Insufficient disk space' reported incorrectly #111537

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opened 2023-08-25 18:55:50 +02:00 by Terrence-4 · 4 comments

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22621-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) Pro WX 5100 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14761 Core Profile Context FireGL 21.30.18 30.0.13018.2

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.6.2, branch: blender-v3.6-release, commit date: 2023-08-16 16:43, hash: e53e55951e7a
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Blender 3.6 seems to work well however if your free space in the blender folder is insufficient to save to new model file, Blender reports an ‘error: no such path or directory’ rather than an ‘Insufficient Space’; subsequently it will not save the file and any auto-saves can result in corrupted file space.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
This is not a render output problem but an error which occurs when you have insufficient disk space on which to save the file.

System = Win 11, latest build on a Dell 5820 with 80gb DRAM. Previously was using 3.4 version after trying and removing 3.5., 3.6.2 works well.

To produce the error I was saving a 3.6 version .BLEND file to a new name. File was 1.7gb with, I discovered, only 1.4 tb of free space on the disk.

This is not an operational bug but rather an error reporting/logging bug since the error reports a ‘not found save-file path’ rather than an ‘insufficient space’ error.

After removing old .blend2 and .blend3 versions of previous models, I freed up 98gb of file space on the drive. The save or ‘save as’ procedure now works just fine.

During the error investigation I found that the autosaves (I have it set for 30 minute intervals where models and ‘saves’ are being sent to the d: drive) were also being corrupted and, if I applied them, they then corrupted my updated model.
It also corrupted segments of my c/:drive where the ‘blender foundation’ files are held. I was able to track this down by using an ‘scf /scannow’ command drive

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22621-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon (TM) Pro WX 5100 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14761 Core Profile Context FireGL 21.30.18 30.0.13018.2 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.6.2, branch: blender-v3.6-release, commit date: 2023-08-16 16:43, hash: `e53e55951e7a` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Blender 3.6 seems to work well however if your free space in the blender folder is insufficient to save to new model file, Blender reports an ‘error: no such path or directory’ rather than an ‘Insufficient Space’; subsequently it will not save the file and any auto-saves can result in corrupted file space. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** This is not a render output problem but an error which occurs when you have insufficient disk space on which to save the file. System = Win 11, latest build on a Dell 5820 with 80gb DRAM. Previously was using 3.4 version after trying and removing 3.5., 3.6.2 works well. To produce the error I was saving a 3.6 version .BLEND file to a new name. File was 1.7gb with, I discovered, only 1.4 tb of free space on the disk. This is not an operational bug but rather an error reporting/logging bug since the error reports a ‘not found save-file path’ rather than an ‘insufficient space’ error. After removing old .blend2 and .blend3 versions of previous models, I freed up 98gb of file space on the drive. The save or ‘save as’ procedure now works just fine. During the error investigation I found that the autosaves (I have it set for 30 minute intervals where models and ‘saves’ are being sent to the d: drive) were also being corrupted and, if I applied them, they then corrupted my updated model. It also corrupted segments of my c/:drive where the ‘blender foundation’ files are held. I was able to track this down by using an ‘scf /scannow’ command drive
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Hi @Terrence-4 , are you saying that insufficient space on disk will lead to corrupted autosave files? This probably needs fixing as it fails silently in your case.

Also " File was 1.7gb with, I discovered, only 1.4 tb", I guess both are 'GB' right? 😅

Blender doesn't differentiate these situations from what I can recall, it will just report the generic "I'm not able to write to this path" message.

Hi @Terrence-4 , are you saying that insufficient space on disk will lead to corrupted autosave files? This probably needs fixing as it fails silently in your case. Also " File was 1.7gb with, I discovered, only 1.4 tb", I guess both are 'GB' right? 😅 Blender doesn't differentiate these situations from what I can recall, it will just report the generic "I'm not able to write to this path" message.
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Hi @YimingWu,
Thank you for helping.
Yes, typo not terabytes but gigabytes.
Yes, the new file I was trying to save to was 1.7gb but the disk available space (discovered later) was only 1.4 gb.
two problems while trying to save a file but there is not enough space on the disk:

  1. I did see corruption of the temporary files created by the 'autosave every 30 minutes' preferences setting during this time period
  2. Blender did NOT report the problem as 'insufficient disk space' but rather as '‘not found save-file path’ (wording may not be exact to the message that arose. but it was along the lines stated.)
  3. after discovery that there was insufficient space on the disk, I ran an 'scf' scan check from the command line and the program reported that it fixed a number of corrupted files on the volume containing the 'blender foundation' program files. (note: 'program blender foundation' files are on a separate physical volume/drive than the volume where the .blend files are stored. I cannot say for certain that the blender software was the cause of that corruption.)
Hi @YimingWu, Thank you for helping. Yes, typo not terabytes but gigabytes. Yes, the new file I was trying to save to was 1.7gb but the disk available space (discovered later) was only 1.4 gb. two problems while trying to save a file but there is not enough space on the disk: 1) I did see corruption of the temporary files created by the 'autosave every 30 minutes' preferences setting during this time period 2) Blender did NOT report the problem as 'insufficient disk space' but rather as '‘not found save-file path’ (wording may not be exact to the message that arose. but it was along the lines stated.) 3) after discovery that there was insufficient space on the disk, I ran an 'scf' scan check from the command line and the program reported that it fixed a number of corrupted files on the volume containing the 'blender foundation' program files. (note: 'program blender foundation' files are on a separate physical volume/drive than the volume where the .blend files are stored. I cannot say for certain that the blender software was the cause of that corruption.)
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Re: error message, I think this can be improved
Re: file corruption, it is not clear if the drive or software is culprit here for auto-save file corruption.
In any case, I'll forward this report devs

Re: error message, I think this can be improved Re: file corruption, it is not clear if the drive or software is culprit here for auto-save file corruption. In any case, I'll forward this report devs
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Thank you Pratik,
I cannot say for sure Blender corrupted the drive.
I can say that this Dell 5820 is used a good 10 hr/day plus weekends for hard computes including Blender. The 'C' volume, i.e. the corrupted volume, is used only for system programs. Data/image storage, temp files, data etc are all on other images. I have 64GB of DDR4 RAM & the C volume image is on a 256GB Class 40 SSD.
The system has been in continual use since 12/2020 and I have never had corrupted segments on it until this instance was found & corrected by an SCF command call.
Dang, but Windows 11 and SSD's are very stable.

Thank you Pratik, I cannot say for sure Blender corrupted the drive. I can say that this Dell 5820 is used a good 10 hr/day plus weekends for hard computes including Blender. The 'C' volume, i.e. the corrupted volume, is used only for system programs. Data/image storage, temp files, data etc are all on other images. I have 64GB of DDR4 RAM & the C volume image is on a 256GB Class 40 SSD. The system has been in continual use since 12/2020 and I have never had corrupted segments on it until this instance was found & corrected by an SCF command call. Dang, but Windows 11 and SSD's are very stable.
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