The Chinese input method does not work properly when searching #112119

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opened 2023-09-08 07:42:00 +02:00 by Ye Gui · 7 comments

Ye Gui commented

2023-09-08 07:42:00 +02:00

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Operating system: windows11 home
Graphics card: RTX2060

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Broken: 4.0.0-alpha+main.24fe81e602a8
Worked: 3.6.2

Short description of error
This is related to a previous problem:(#93421)
Let me describe the process:

Make sure that the IME is off, otherwise the shortcut key is not available
2.Shift A
I tried to search for Chinese, but because there is a certain probability that IME cannot be automatically opened at this time, I can only enter letters directly
I had to delete the letters that had already been entered (and enable IME manually if IME was not automatically turned on) before I could enter Chinese normally

If this problem can't be solved in a short time, perhaps offering an option, in the 4.0 version you can still use the old search button, as in version 3.6?

**System Information** Operating system: windows11 home Graphics card: RTX2060 **Blender Version** Broken: 4.0.0-alpha+main.24fe81e602a8 Worked: 3.6.2 **Short description of error** This is related to a previous problem:(https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/93421) Let me describe the process: 1. Make sure that the IME is off, otherwise the shortcut key is not available 2.Shift A 3. I tried to search for Chinese, but because there is a certain probability that IME cannot be automatically opened at this time, I can only enter letters directly 4. I had to delete the letters that had already been entered (and enable IME manually if IME was not automatically turned on) before I could enter Chinese normally If this problem can't be solved in a short time, perhaps offering an option, in the 4.0 version you can still use the old search button, as in version 3.6?

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Harley Acheson commented

2023-09-12 23:14:51 +02:00

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Best tested with Blender set to "English" as the interface language, but have Windows input language set to Simplified Chinese. Note that if testing with a "Lite" build you must enable WITH_INPUT_IME in CMakeCache.txt

With mouse in a View3d, press Shift-a to bring up the "Add" menu. While that is displayed press any regular key, like "a". That will bring up a search box with "a" filtering the list. But we shouldn't be filtering on "a" since we are in Chinese. Instead we should be seeing an underlined "a" with IME already started. As it is the only way to search is to press any key to start search, then backspace over that key, and start typing again - which will probably do IME.

Sometimes when switching between Chinese and English I can type A or Shift-A and will get an IME popup even though there is no current text input. If this happens I can dismiss that, press F3 for menu search, and I will get "BLI_assert failed: ...interface\interface_handlers.cc:3390, ui_textedit_ime_begin(), at 'win->ime_data == nullptr'"

Best tested with Blender set to "English" as the interface language, but have Windows input language set to Simplified Chinese. Note that if testing with a "Lite" build you must enable WITH_INPUT_IME in CMakeCache.txt With mouse in a View3d, press Shift-a to bring up the "Add" menu. While that is displayed press any regular key, like "a". That will bring up a search box with "a" filtering the list. But we shouldn't be filtering on "a" since we are in Chinese. Instead we should be seeing an underlined "a" with IME already started. As it is the only way to search is to press any key to start search, then backspace over that key, and start typing again - which will probably do IME. Sometimes when switching between Chinese and English I can type A or Shift-A and will get an IME popup even though there is no current text input. If this happens I can dismiss that, press F3 for menu search, and I will get "BLI_assert failed: ...interface\interface_handlers.cc:3390, ui_textedit_ime_begin(), at 'win->ime_data == nullptr'"

Harley Acheson commented

2023-09-14 01:52:00 +02:00

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@hzuika @skyjib @sntulix
Do you guys have any idea how to deal with this one?

We are opening a dialog because the user presses a letter, like "a". We get a search dialog with "a" in it. But if the input language is using an IME we want to (somehow) start the IME with this character. Otherwise you have to backspace this away and then start typing.

@hzuika @skyjib @sntulix Do you guys have any idea how to deal with this one? We are opening a dialog because the user presses a letter, like "a". We get a search dialog with "a" in it. But if the input language is using an IME we want to (somehow) start the IME with this character. Otherwise you have to backspace this away and then start typing.

Takahiro Shizuki commented

2023-09-15 18:15:36 +02:00

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Hi @Harley, @ziweidao

I installed Blender4.0 alpha (fca8df9415) first.
And I don't catch your point yet. I didn't represent this problem in my Japanese environment installed Simplified Chinese IME.
Maybe, I don't understand clearly about this yet.

I have some questions.

I don't know why pick up about Shift-a key. Is Shift-a key in VIEW3D effected to IME?
Is "search" the box by F3 key?
Is the code about IME changed between 3.6 and 4.0?

Sincerly.

Hi @Harley, @ziweidao I installed Blender4.0 alpha (fca8df9415b1) first. And I don't catch your point yet. I didn't represent this problem in my Japanese environment installed Simplified Chinese IME. Maybe, I don't understand clearly about this yet. I have some questions. 1. I don't know why pick up about Shift-a key. Is Shift-a key in VIEW3D effected to IME? 2. Is "search" the box by F3 key? 3. Is the code about IME changed between 3.6 and 4.0? Sincerly.

Harley Acheson commented

2023-09-15 18:35:34 +02:00

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No changes in IME since 3.6. The change is that some menus can now be searched by just pressing keys...

In the following I have the Blender Interface set to "English" but my Windows Input language is set to Japanese.

In the 3D Viewport I can press Shift-A to bring up the "Add" menu.

While that menu is shown I can press any key to start filtering the list by that by key. If I press "c" the menu will change to a filter with "c" in the list. If I type anything else I get an IME for the next character typed. In the following capture you can see the first "c" is not underlined, but the second one is.

This means that any user with an IME will have to always backspace that initial character away. Ideally the IME would be started with that first character when the dialog is shown. I don't think we have the capability to do that.

@sntulix No changes in IME since 3.6. The change is that some menus can now be searched by just pressing keys... In the following I have the Blender Interface set to "English" but my Windows Input language is set to Japanese. In the 3D Viewport I can press Shift-A to bring up the "Add" menu. ![image](/attachments/142ca519-52c7-476a-bdd8-a7b4a1293bb2) While that menu is shown I can press any key to start filtering the list by that by key. If I press "c" the menu will change to a filter with "c" in the list. If I type anything else I get an IME for the next character typed. In the following capture you can see the first "c" is not underlined, but the second one is. ![image](/attachments/da51d28d-259c-44ef-864f-efe1c0c0ad55) This means that any user with an IME will have to always backspace that initial character away. Ideally the IME would be started with that first character when the dialog is shown. I don't think we have the capability to do that.

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Takahiro Shizuki commented

2023-09-16 08:36:24 +02:00

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Thank you for your detail explain.

My understand is:

@Harley
I think that this is not a problem of source code on IME, this is more of a feature request for a naturallly than a bug report.

Hi, @Harley. Thank you for your detail explain. My understand is: ![image](/attachments/27fb3c70-ec44-455b-b6ba-71e5dff4342f) @Harley I think that this is not a problem of source code on IME, this is more of a feature request for a naturallly than a bug report.

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Takahiro Shizuki commented

2023-09-16 08:48:53 +02:00

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OFF Topics:

if I can, I want pickup with keys
“Shift-a, IME ON, e-n-n-p-u-t-h-i, Return”,
not “Shift-a, e, IME ON, e-n-n-p-u-t-h-i, Return”.
Japanese Input style are two mainly, "Roman Input (above)" and "Kana Input".
Kana Input can input a character of Hirakana directly.
ex. "Empty" - "エンプティ (Katakana)" - "えんぷてぃ (Hiragana)"
This is a possiblity of hitting keys “Shift-a, IME ON, え-ん-ぷ-て-(ぃ), Return”.

OFF Topics: 1. if I can, I want pickup with keys “Shift-a, IME ON, e-n-n-p-u-t-h-i, Return”, not “Shift-a, e, IME ON, e-n-n-p-u-t-h-i, Return”. 2. Japanese Input style are two mainly, "Roman Input (above)" and "Kana Input". Kana Input can input a character of Hirakana directly. ex. "Empty" - "エンプティ (Katakana)" - "えんぷてぃ (Hiragana)" This is a possiblity of hitting keys “Shift-a, IME ON, え-ん-ぷ-て-(ぃ), Return”. ![image](/attachments/012366b0-ff7e-4acd-8252-a0c575d41491)

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Takahiro Shizuki commented

2023-09-16 12:12:16 +02:00

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This is just an idea, but If the Translation of Interface is enabled as Chinese in the Blender setting, it make pass no character from ADD menu to Search dialog.

This is just an idea, but If the Translation of Interface is enabled as Chinese in the Blender setting, it make pass no character from ADD menu to Search dialog.

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