**Blender preferences** window is vibrating while Resizing #112340

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V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH · 2023-09-13T17:16:28+02:00

V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-09-13 17:16:28 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA RTX A4500 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 536.45

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.6.2, branch: blender-v3.6-release, commit date: 2023-08-16 16:43, hash: e53e55951e7a
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
whenever I tried to resize the "Blender preferences" window the entire window is vibrating

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
1.Open a new blend file
2.Click on Edit menu.
3. select Preferences (the last option under edit menu)
4. Blender preferences Window will appear
5. Resize the window vertically

while doing so the entire window will vibrate.

[Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA RTX A4500 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 536.45 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.6.2, branch: blender-v3.6-release, commit date: 2023-08-16 16:43, hash: `e53e55951e7a` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** whenever I tried to resize the "Blender preferences" window the entire window is vibrating **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1.Open a new blend file 2.Click on **Edit** menu. 3. select **Preferences** (the last option under edit menu) 4. **Blender preferences** Window will appear 5. Resize the window vertically while doing so the entire window will vibrate. [Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]

Bug file.blend

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-09-13 19:32:20 +02:00

Can you make screen recording? I can reproduce 1px oscilation in experimental tab but not sure if this is what you mean in this report.

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V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-09-13 19:59:03 +02:00

i have attached the video

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-09-14 18:55:18 +02:00

That is interesting. Can you click on Help > Save System Info and upload saved file? Also check if this happens with alpha build from https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/

shannon zachow commented

2023-09-15 20:27:31 +02:00

I'm getting the same problem, except it is both the Pref's window and the Main window.
Does NOT happen when resizing the RIGHT window-edge, but does happen for TOP, BOTTOM, LEFT, and CORNERS.
If dragging top-right corner, and you manage to not change vertical dimension, then vibration ceases.

System Information
Operating system: Linux 6.4.14-1-MANJARO x86_64
Graphics card: NVIDIA RTX 2060

Blender Version
Broken: 3.0.1, 3.3.6, 3.6.2, 4.0.0alpha
Worked: ?

all versions tested are the blender-download packages (downloaded from blender site).
3.6.2 is BOTH blender's official download, and the current manjaro-linux distribution supported version (which might be compiled/linked differently against the libraries -- i'm not sure).

I'm getting the same problem, except it is both the Pref's window and the Main window. Does NOT happen when resizing the RIGHT window-edge, but does happen for TOP, BOTTOM, LEFT, and CORNERS. If dragging top-right corner, and you manage to not change vertical dimension, then vibration ceases. System Information Operating system: Linux 6.4.14-1-MANJARO x86_64 Graphics card: NVIDIA RTX 2060 Blender Version Broken: 3.0.1, 3.3.6, 3.6.2, 4.0.0alpha Worked: ? all versions tested are the blender-download packages (downloaded from blender site). 3.6.2 is BOTH blender's official download, and the current manjaro-linux distribution supported version (which might be compiled/linked differently against the libraries -- i'm not sure).

system-info-4.0.0-alpha.txt

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shannon zachow commented

2023-09-15 20:54:27 +02:00

maybe I misunderstand the problem. but the right side resize definitely is much smoother than the others. To be honest, I don't spend a lot of time resizing the windows, so I've never noticed this to be a hindrance.

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V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-09-16 06:24:08 +02:00

@iss I have attached my system info from both the blender version's (3.6.2 & 4.0alpha)

and I checked with daily build as well, the problem exists there as well

@iss I have attached my system info from both the blender version's (3.6.2 & 4.0alpha) and I checked with daily build as well, the problem exists there as well

bug in daily realse .blend

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-09-25 21:07:40 +02:00

@shannonz This seems to be different issue. If you look into system info file, Blender is using your integrated GPU for UI. You may want to change it, if you experience other more significant glitches.

@V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH I don't see anything out of ordinary in sys info file, but there are some addons I am not familiar with. Can you check if this happens when you run file blender_factory_startup.cmd from daily build?

@shannonz This seems to be different issue. If you look into system info file, Blender is using your integrated GPU for UI. You may want to change it, if you experience other more significant glitches. @V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH I don't see anything out of ordinary in sys info file, but there are some addons I am not familiar with. Can you check if this happens when you run file `blender_factory_startup.cmd` from daily build?

V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-09-26 06:04:44 +02:00

@iss I checked in daily builds with defaults addons, as well as no addon's , the problem is still exists, the only difference I noticed is that the oscillation pattern differs between the default addons and no addons, but however the oscillation is still there in both the case.

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shannon zachow commented

2023-09-26 10:43:29 +02:00

@iss the system-info.txt files I sent were all issued from blender instances started with command-line flag --factory-startup. That may be why it defaulted back to integrated GPU. I did --factory-startup to remove addon suspects.

(1) I just tried again, WITHOUT --factory-startup. Problem is as described (vibrating redraw of window during resize). At the same time I double-checked in user preferences: it was set to using Nvidia RTX 2060 + Optix.

(2) I just tried yet again, WITH --factory-startup. I checked User-Prefs to ensure setting to Nvidia RTX 2060 + Optix. Problem is as described (vibrating redraw). Will now upload newer system-info.txt: (see below)

[[separate issue, when I save system-info.txt from Help menu, cmd-line dumps the following message:

/home/shannon/bin/blender/4.0/blender-4.0.0-alpha+main.407e2b9f700f-linux.x86_64-release/4.0/python/bin/python3.10: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Saved session recovery to "/tmp/quit.blend"

True, I don't have ".1", but I have
$ ls -oh /usr/lib/libcrypt*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 14 Aug 1 11:04 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so -> libcrypto.so.3
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.0M Aug 1 11:04 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 23 May 18 15:43 /usr/lib/libcryptsetup.so -> libcryptsetup.so.12.9.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 23 May 18 15:43 /usr/lib/libcryptsetup.so.12 -> libcryptsetup.so.12.9.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 518K May 18 15:43 /usr/lib/libcryptsetup.so.12.9.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 17 Jul 5 14:50 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> libcrypt.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 17 Jul 5 14:50 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> libcrypt.so.2.0.0
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 162K Jul 5 14:50 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2.0.0

not sure what this is about...
]]

(3) I just tried a 3rd time, with the "prime-run" script prefix (recommended by Manjaro Linux for hybrid (dual-gpu) systems to force using the discrete GPU (nvidia)) + --factory-startup flag. I still get the vibrating window effect. I had stopped using a default prime-run, because blenders 3.3 ... 3.6 had been giving me micro-hangs in the GUI (lasting 0.5 - 2.0 seconds).
((( I had previously reported this bug... but then closed it as maybe due to my libraries somehow. Since then I've completely re-installed the operating system, but stopped using "prime-run" by default, and that seemed to clear the micro-hangs. The blender window gui was being drawn by the integrated GPU, but rendering was happening through the discrete Nvidia. )))
system-info-prime-run.txt appended.

@iss the system-info.txt files I sent were all issued from blender instances started with command-line flag --factory-startup. That may be why it defaulted back to integrated GPU. I did --factory-startup to remove addon suspects. (1) I just tried again, WITHOUT --factory-startup. Problem is as described (vibrating redraw of window during resize). At the same time I double-checked in user preferences: it was set to using Nvidia RTX 2060 + Optix. (2) I just tried yet again, WITH --factory-startup. I checked User-Prefs to ensure setting to Nvidia RTX 2060 + Optix. Problem is as described (vibrating redraw). Will now upload newer system-info.txt: (see below) [[separate issue, when I save system-info.txt from Help menu, cmd-line dumps the following message: > /home/shannon/bin/blender/4.0/blender-4.0.0-alpha+main.407e2b9f700f-linux.x86_64-release/4.0/python/bin/python3.10: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > Saved session recovery to "/tmp/quit.blend" True, I don't have ".1", but I have $ ls -oh /usr/lib/libcrypt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 14 Aug 1 11:04 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so -> libcrypto.so.3 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.0M Aug 1 11:04 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 23 May 18 15:43 /usr/lib/libcryptsetup.so -> libcryptsetup.so.12.9.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 23 May 18 15:43 /usr/lib/libcryptsetup.so.12 -> libcryptsetup.so.12.9.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 518K May 18 15:43 /usr/lib/libcryptsetup.so.12.9.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 17 Jul 5 14:50 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> libcrypt.so.2.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 17 Jul 5 14:50 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> libcrypt.so.2.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 162K Jul 5 14:50 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2.0.0 not sure what this is about... ]] (3) I just tried a 3rd time, with the "prime-run" script prefix (recommended by Manjaro Linux for hybrid (dual-gpu) systems to force using the discrete GPU (nvidia)) + --factory-startup flag. **I still get the vibrating window effect**. I had stopped using a default prime-run, because blenders 3.3 ... 3.6 had been giving me micro-hangs in the GUI (lasting 0.5 - 2.0 seconds). ((( I had previously reported this bug... but then closed it as maybe due to my libraries somehow. Since then I've completely re-installed the operating system, but stopped using "prime-run" by default, and that seemed to clear the micro-hangs. The blender window gui was being drawn by the integrated GPU, but rendering was happening through the discrete Nvidia. ))) system-info-prime-run.txt appended.

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-09-29 03:44:34 +02:00

@V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH That's strange, but the issue itself is strange.

I can ask you to do one more check, otherwise I am out of ideas:
Download mesa3d-21.3.5-release-msvc.7z from github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win/releases/tag/21.3.5, extract files opengl32.dll, libglapi.dll and libgallium_wgl.dll to folder next to blender.exe.
This will enable opengl emulation, which will be slow for modelling, but should be fast enough for UI. If this works correctly, this means that issue is within GPU driver.

@shannonz Blender UI will use integrated GPU in your case regardless of what you choose in preferences. You have to modify X server configuration (or how it works in Linux these days)

@V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH That's strange, but the issue itself is strange. I can ask you to do one more check, otherwise I am out of ideas: Download mesa3d-21.3.5-release-msvc.7z from github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win/releases/tag/21.3.5, extract files opengl32.dll, libglapi.dll and libgallium_wgl.dll to folder next to blender.exe. This will enable opengl emulation, which will be slow for modelling, but should be fast enough for UI. If this works correctly, this means that issue is within GPU driver. @shannonz Blender UI will use integrated GPU in your case regardless of what you choose in preferences. You have to modify X server configuration (or how it works in Linux these days)

V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-10-01 05:40:18 +02:00

@iss I tried as you explained , but still the issue exists, and also I updated the latest graphic driver, no progress even after that.

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-10-02 15:58:20 +02:00

That's very interesting. I am thinking, that this could perhaps be some kind of DPI mismatch issue. Do you have multiple monitors?
@Harley does this ring a bell?

That's very interesting. I am thinking, that this could perhaps be some kind of DPI mismatch issue. Do you have multiple monitors? @Harley does this ring a bell?

Harley Acheson commented

2023-10-02 18:03:28 +02:00

I don't have any good ideas....

I tried this on multiple monitors with varying scale and DPI and I can't see the same problem; resizing of the Preferences window as shown in the video is rock solid for me. I tried extracting the frames of the video to see if that would offer some clues but FFMPEG stopped after the first 25. And VLC won't allow stepping frame by frame through it. A screen capture video, rather than a video of the screen, might help a bit.

I am curious about the screen details. The font looks more full than I would expect from the screen of a laptop and blender resolution at 1.0. So guessing this is on a secondary monitor with high resolution? What is the OS scale setting for that monitor? What is the Blender scale?

I don't have any good ideas.... I tried this on multiple monitors with varying scale and DPI and I can't see the same problem; resizing of the Preferences window as shown in the video is rock solid for me. I tried extracting the frames of the video to see if that would offer some clues but FFMPEG stopped after the first 25. And VLC won't allow stepping frame by frame through it. A screen capture video, rather than a video of the screen, might help a bit. I am curious about the screen details. The font looks more full than I would expect from the screen of a laptop and blender resolution at 1.0. So guessing this is on a secondary monitor with high resolution? What is the OS scale setting for that monitor? What is the Blender scale?

V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-10-03 16:38:46 +02:00

@iss , @Harley I am not using any secondary monitor. I am using DELL precision 7770 laptop.

Harley Acheson commented

2023-10-03 16:57:12 +02:00

I am not using any secondary monitor. I am using DELL precision 7770 laptop.

Yes, and what is the...

screen resolution
OS scale (Settings / System / Display)
Blender Resolution Scale (Preferences / Interface)?

> I am not using any secondary monitor. I am using DELL precision 7770 laptop. Yes, and what is the... * screen resolution * OS scale (Settings / System / Display) * Blender Resolution Scale (Preferences / Interface)?

V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-10-03 17:30:43 +02:00

my screen resolution (1080 X 1920 pixels)
OS scale (100%)
Blender resolution scale ( 1)

kindly refer the screen shot for additional info

my screen resolution (1080 X 1920 pixels) OS scale (100%) Blender resolution scale ( 1) kindly refer the screen shot for additional info

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-10-04 19:42:38 +02:00

That is very similar to my setup. Can you check if this issue was introduced in any previous version? You can download these from https://www.blender.org/download/previous-versions/

V.SRI-GOKUL-NATH commented

2023-10-05 17:59:50 +02:00

@iss I checked will all the LTS previous versions of blender, this issue is there in all the versions

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-10-09 18:29:53 +02:00

Thanks for update. Unfortunately I don't have any more ideas of what to check to get us closer to reproducing this issue.

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Pratik Borhade commented

2023-12-08 10:41:04 +01:00

I can confirm in 3.0 - 4.0, somehow never noticed this before :)
Tried with iGPU (AMD) and dedicated NVIDIA GPU, problem is only visible on NVIDIA for me.

I can confirm in 3.0 - 4.0, somehow never noticed this before :) Tried with iGPU (AMD) and dedicated NVIDIA GPU, problem is only visible on NVIDIA for me.

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