"less" selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected in some situations #113501

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Robert Rioux · 2023-10-10T16:45:01+02:00

Robert Rioux commented

2023-10-10 16:45:01 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: macOS-12.3.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64 OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.8.15

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.4.1, branch: blender-v3.4-release, commit date: 2022-12-20 08:50, hash: rBef9ca44dee7f
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
shrink selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Create a grid.
Edit mode,
select all vertices (A).
Use shrink selection (Ctrl + Numpad Minus). Nothing.

The vertices on the edge of the grid should have been deselected.

**System Information** Operating system: macOS-12.3.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro Vega 64 OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.8.15 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.4.1, branch: blender-v3.4-release, commit date: 2022-12-20 08:50, hash: `rBef9ca44dee7f` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** shrink selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected <video src="/attachments/2973a326-cc85-4cfb-8d3d-e605785a01d4" controls></video> **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Create a grid. - Edit mode, - select all vertices (`A`). - Use shrink selection (`Ctrl` + `Numpad Minus`). Nothing. The vertices on the edge of the grid should have been deselected.

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dupoxy commented

2023-10-10 19:06:10 +02:00

I can confirm this issue.
But the manual is not very clear that this is expected for meshes.
meshes/selecting/more_less.html#select-more-less

The manual is clear about this to be expected for surfaces and grease pencil:
surfaces/selecting.html#select-more-less
grease_pencil/selecting.html#select-more-less

I can confirm this issue. But the manual is not very clear that this is expected for meshes. [meshes/selecting/more_less.html#select-more-less ](https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.4/modeling/meshes/selecting/more_less.html#select-more-less) The manual is clear about this to be expected for surfaces and grease pencil: [surfaces/selecting.html#select-more-less](https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.4/modeling/surfaces/selecting.html#select-more-less) [grease_pencil/selecting.html#select-more-less](https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/3.4/grease_pencil/selecting.html#select-more-less)

dupoxy commented

2023-10-10 19:36:02 +02:00

@Funnybob I edited my previous comment the manual is NOT clear on this for Meshes.

dupoxy commented

2023-10-10 19:42:58 +02:00

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Create a grid. Edit mode, select all vertices. Use shrink selection. Nothing. The vertices on the edge of the grid should have been deselected.

I'm assuming your talking about select more/less because shrink is used for transform not selection.

> Exact steps for others to reproduce the error > > Create a grid. Edit mode, select all vertices. Use shrink selection. Nothing. The vertices on the edge of the grid should have been deselected. I'm assuming your talking about select more/less because shrink is used for transform not selection.

dupoxy commented

2023-10-10 20:19:17 +02:00

Then please edit your issue title and original comment to make it clear.
The more less.mov file you provided show the expected behaviour.
You should do the same with blender to show the issue and add it to your original comment.
Bonus point if you provide a .blend file.
Thanks.

Then please edit your issue title and original comment to make it clear. The [more less.mov](https://projects.blender.org/attachments/a2ff09aa-ce2d-4421-9775-af0dda784582) file you provided show the expected behaviour. You should do the same with blender to show the issue and add it to your original comment. Bonus point if you provide a .blend file. Thanks.

Robert Rioux commented

2023-10-10 20:25:11 +02:00

So here's the same thing in Blender. I can grow but when it's time ti shrink it doesn't work.

And a Blender file to test it.

Title changed too. :-)

So here's the same thing in Blender. I can grow but when it's time ti shrink it doesn't work. And a Blender file to test it. Title changed too. :-)

Screen Recording 2023-10-10 at 2.22.28 PM.mov

3.6 MiB

testFIle.blend

840 KiB

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Robert Rioux changed title from ~~shrink selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected~~ to shrink selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected in some situations

2023-10-10 20:25:30 +02:00

dupoxy commented

2023-10-10 20:30:40 +02:00

I was talking about editing the shrink/less mix up ;)

Robert Rioux changed title from ~~shrink selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected in some situations~~ to "less" selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected in some situations

2023-10-10 20:31:20 +02:00

Robert Rioux commented

2023-10-10 20:31:49 +02:00

Ok now I want my extra points! :-)

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dupoxy commented

2023-10-10 20:37:03 +02:00

Let's wait and see what the triaging team will give you :)

Germano Cavalcante commented

2023-10-10 22:30:32 +02:00

Thanks for the report, but an element is only deselected with Select Less if it is linked to an unselected element. (Not if it is on the edge of the geometry).

This is by design and is consistent with the operation in other object types (like Curves).

So the issue reported here is a request for modified/improved behavior and not a bug in current behavior. Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors.

For user requests and feedback, you can try other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests

For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug

Thanks for the report, but an element is only deselected with `Select Less` if it is linked to an unselected element. (Not if it is on the edge of the geometry). This is by design and is consistent with the operation in other object types (like Curves). So the issue reported here is a request for modified/improved behavior and not a bug in current behavior. Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors. For user requests and feedback, you can try other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug

Germano Cavalcante closed this issue

2023-10-10 22:30:34 +02:00

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Robert Rioux commented

2023-10-10 22:48:56 +02:00

Can you elaborate on why this is normal behaviour because it doesn't make much sense to me. I don't understand why this is preferable to what I think it's supposed to be, according to me. Thanks

Germano Cavalcante commented

2023-10-11 14:27:07 +02:00

The code was made to work like this.
Unfortunately the reasons were not very clear.
But the change suggested in this case qualifies as a feature request.

The code was made to work like this. Unfortunately the reasons were not very clear. But the change suggested in this case qualifies as a feature request.

Robert Rioux commented

2023-11-05 13:20:34 +01:00

There's already the code to select the border edges. So if all vertices are selected, select everything but the border edges and that's it. Easy fix. :)

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"less" selection doesn't work if all vertices are selected in some situations #113501