Crashes in edit mode #115077

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orange-blossom commented

No, I'm not using ALT.

I'am attaching an example of a file that I imported from 3.6.5 and tried to work on.

To reproduce the crash one needs to enter edit mode and do some standard modelling work like deleting/creating vertices, creating faces, edges and those sort of things - no fancy operations. For me the crash will occur after ~15 minutes of working on this file.

However the crash occures on every file I try - created an empty project added the default cube and started messing with it - crash occured after some 20 minutes of toying with the shape in edit mode.

I'am working on a default settings blender 4.0.0 - I haven't imported the 3.6 settings.
Both Windows 10 and GPU drivers are up-to-date.

Something inside blender changed and and it's cousing issues for my setup. 3.6.5 and earlier versions never had this kind of a problem.

No, I'm not using ALT. I'am attaching an example of a file that I imported from 3.6.5 and tried to work on. To reproduce the crash one needs to enter edit mode and do some standard modelling work like deleting/creating vertices, creating faces, edges and those sort of things - no fancy operations. For me the crash will occur after ~15 minutes of working on this file. However the crash occures on every file I try - created an empty project added the default cube and started messing with it - crash occured after some 20 minutes of toying with the shape in edit mode. I'am working on a default settings blender 4.0.0 - I haven't imported the 3.6 settings. Both Windows 10 and GPU drivers are up-to-date. Something inside blender changed and and it's cousing issues for my setup. 3.6.5 and earlier versions never had this kind of a problem.

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Richard Antalik commented

I wasn't able to reproduce crash. Unfortunately we require exact steps to reproduce the issue. This may involve a bit of experimentation, but it also could be random and hardware related.
In any case, check if this happens with alpha build from https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/

I wasn't able to reproduce crash. Unfortunately we require exact steps to reproduce the issue. This may involve a bit of experimentation, but it also could be random and hardware related. In any case, check if this happens with alpha build from https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/

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orange-blossom commented

I tried the 4.1.0 alpha.

The crashing still occurs. I tried turning off the fresnel for edit mode that was introudced with 4.0.0 but it didn't help.

At this point I'am certain that this is a hardware/driver related issue. I'm afraid it isn't reproducible unless on the same CPU model.

Going back - It would be interesting to know what change in the blender 4.0 could be cousing such an issue. So maybe I could develop a fix on my own.

I tried the 4.1.0 alpha. The crashing still occurs. I tried turning off the fresnel for edit mode that was introudced with 4.0.0 but it didn't help. At this point I'am certain that this is a hardware/driver related issue. I'm afraid it isn't reproducible unless on the same CPU model. Going back - It would be interesting to know what change in the blender 4.0 could be cousing such an issue. So maybe I could develop a fix on my own.

Daniel Grauer commented

2023-11-27 21:40:32 +01:00

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Broken: version: 4.0.1, branch: blender-v4.0-release, commit date: 2023-11-16 16:40, hash: d0dd92834a08

I also get a crash whenever i enter EDIT mode and i assume its related to this one.
I have narrowed the crash down to a asset library. If i remove them i do not get the crash. Im trying to isolate the blend file that causes it to provide a example but maybe in the mean time this information helps to find out what is happening.
EDIT: it seems to be caused by a blend file that can not be loaded and crashes blender when i try. Unfortunately i can not share this blend file here. I hope this information can help nonetheless to fix this issue.

**Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.0.1, branch: blender-v4.0-release, commit date: 2023-11-16 16:40, hash: `d0dd92834a08` I also get a crash whenever i enter EDIT mode and i assume its related to this one. I have narrowed the crash down to a asset library. If i remove them i do not get the crash. Im trying to isolate the blend file that causes it to provide a example but maybe in the mean time this information helps to find out what is happening. EDIT: it seems to be caused by a blend file that can not be loaded and crashes blender when i try. Unfortunately i can not share this blend file here. I hope this information can help nonetheless to fix this issue.

orange-blossom commented

2023-12-01 23:51:51 +01:00

During my efforts to figure out what's the couse of the problem i did these things on my PC:

Removed everything Blender related except for the mobile installation of the 3.6.5 and it's settings (including the stuff in Appdata folder's)
Allocated 8GB's of paging memory in Windows for the drive where I keep all my Blender versions (nothing was allocated before)
Completely removed anything video driver related using DDU (display driver uninstaller)
Reinstalled Nvidia drivers
Downloaded Blender 4.0.1 and imported my settings from 3.6.5
Disabled: GPU subdivision, GPU depth picking and Edit mode fresnel

As of right now I don't get the crashes anymore. Still I don't consider my issue fixed until I test for a few more days.

Any helpfull comment as why the problem existed before would be appreciated.

During my efforts to figure out what's the couse of the problem i did these things on my PC: - Removed everything Blender related except for the mobile installation of the 3.6.5 and it's settings (including the stuff in Appdata folder's) - Allocated 8GB's of paging memory in Windows for the drive where I keep all my Blender versions (nothing was allocated before) - Completely removed anything video driver related using DDU (display driver uninstaller) - Reinstalled Nvidia drivers - Downloaded Blender 4.0.1 and imported my settings from 3.6.5 - Disabled: GPU subdivision, GPU depth picking and Edit mode fresnel As of right now I don't get the crashes anymore. Still I don't consider my issue fixed until I test for a few more days. Any helpfull comment as why the problem existed before would be appreciated.

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Dawid-Paterkiewicz commented

I have the same problem. I followed the steps outlined by orange-blossom, but it didn't help.

System information:

Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits Version 22H2 (build 19045.3693)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB RAM (Driver: Studio 546.01)
CPU: Intel I5-13600K
RAM: 64GB DDR5
Blender version: 4.0.2, branch: blender-v4.0-release, commit date: 2023-12-05 07:41

I tried running Blender through the console to see what's happening, so I'm pasting the content:

Read blend: "C:\Users\User\Desktop\pb11-r-uv.blend"
GPUTexture: Blender Texture Not Loaded!
Error : UNKNOWN EXCEPTION
Address : 0x00007FFD47FFCF19
Module : KERNELBASE.dll
Thread : 00001e64

I am attaching the crash report file and system info. Hopefully, this will help resolve the issue in future Blender versions.

I have the same problem. I followed the steps outlined by orange-blossom, but it didn't help. **System information:** - Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits Version 22H2 (build 19045.3693) - Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16GB RAM (Driver: Studio 546.01) - CPU: Intel I5-13600K - RAM: 64GB DDR5 - Blender version: 4.0.2, branch: blender-v4.0-release, commit date: 2023-12-05 07:41 I tried running Blender through the console to see what's happening, so I'm pasting the content: Read blend: "C:\Users\User\Desktop\pb11-r-uv.blend" GPUTexture: Blender Texture Not Loaded! Error : UNKNOWN EXCEPTION Address : 0x00007FFD47FFCF19 Module : KERNELBASE.dll Thread : 00001e64 I am attaching the crash report file and system info. Hopefully, this will help resolve the issue in future Blender versions.

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Richard Antalik commented

2023-12-18 21:44:43 +01:00

@orange-blossom Did the crashes reappear for you? Stack trace from @Dawid-Paterkiewicz is indeed same as yours. @Dawid-Paterkiewicz Did you check 4.1 alpha?

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orange-blossom commented

@iss In my case completely reinstalling the drivers did the trick. I have tested in long modelling sessions and the crashes didn't appear. The thread was reopened for @Dawid-Paterkiewicz 's case.

Richard Antalik commented

2023-12-19 16:36:07 +01:00

Allright, we can continue in this thread, but usually it is better to make new report. @orange-blossom did you use some special tool to remove old driver orwas it just plain reinstall.

orange-blossom commented

2023-12-19 22:25:19 +01:00

@iss I used the display driver uninstaller from guru3D to completely uninstall everything related to graphics drivers from the computer. It was already mentioned in this thread.

Richard Antalik commented

2023-12-20 21:19:22 +01:00

Ah sorry, @Dawid-Paterkiewicz can you verify you used this tool to remove GPU drivers? I've heard this resolved bunch of issues reported in past.

Dawid-Paterkiewicz commented

2023-12-20 22:22:42 +01:00

Hey @iss!

I used the DDU tool (it's legit; I've used it several times) and followed the steps by @orange-blossom precisely twice.

I also installed Blender 4.1 and tested it for 5 minutes, and... I didn't encounter any problems.

For now, I've reverted to version 3.6.5.

Hey @iss! I used the DDU tool (it's legit; I've used it several times) and followed the steps by @orange-blossom precisely twice. I also installed Blender 4.1 and tested it for 5 minutes, and... I didn't encounter any problems. For now, I've reverted to version 3.6.5.

Richard Antalik commented

2023-12-21 18:42:23 +01:00

@Dawid-Paterkiewicz It's bit strange, that only 4.0 has these issues. But I don't really have any more tests for you to conduct.

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Dawid-Paterkiewicz commented

@iss I know, this is very strange, but I understand, it's not a stable release :) If I have the opportunity to start a new project, I will try the new Blender version. I saw today, when I started a new project in Blender 4.0 version, it crashed after maybe 7 minutes of modeling. That's 7 minutes more than editing my current project, which started in Blender 3.6.5 and I tried editing in blender 4.0.

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System information
13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX 2.20 GHz
4060

blender version 4.02

Since my blender upgraded to 4.0, there has been some problems happened. I also experienced a stutter problem in edit mode, which seems to be related to modifiers, but none of my worse configured computers encountered such stutter problems before version 4.0.
Now when I perform simple operations, such as basic operations like rotating views, there is a chance that the interface will not respond, which usually lasts for tens of seconds to a few minutes. At the same time, the CPU usage of blender will increase abnormally from 12% under normal conditions to 70%~98%, which makes me worry about whether such frequent crashes will lead to computer damage. I want to know how to avoid such frequent no responding.

System information 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900HX 2.20 GHz 4060 blender version 4.02 Since my blender upgraded to 4.0, there has been some problems happened. I also experienced a stutter problem in edit mode, which seems to be related to modifiers, but none of my worse configured computers encountered such stutter problems before version 4.0. Now when I perform simple operations, such as basic operations like rotating views, there is a chance that the interface will not respond, which usually lasts for tens of seconds to a few minutes. At the same time, the CPU usage of blender will increase abnormally from 12% under normal conditions to 70%~98%, which makes me worry about whether such frequent crashes will lead to computer damage. I want to know how to avoid such frequent no responding.

Sophia-Monrose commented

2024-06-09 19:36:09 +02:00

Hello,

I opened a new report for an issue similar to this. My blender crashes every time I go into edit mode. I click that button and the whole thing freezes..

Is there any fixes for it yet?

Hello, I opened a new report for an issue similar to this. My blender crashes every time I go into edit mode. I click that button and the whole thing freezes.. Is there any fixes for it yet?

Dawid-Paterkiewicz commented

2024-06-09 20:00:42 +02:00

Hello,

I opened a new report for an issue similar to this. My blender crashes every time I go into edit mode. I click that button and the whole thing freezes..

Is there any fixes for it yet?

Try using other versions of Blender and attempt again. If a problem persists, investigate potential issues with your drivers, update them all, and try again. I resolved my issue by installing the next version of Blender.

> Hello, > > I opened a new report for an issue similar to this. My blender crashes every time I go into edit mode. I click that button and the whole thing freezes.. > > Is there any fixes for it yet? Try using other versions of Blender and attempt again. If a problem persists, investigate potential issues with your drivers, update them all, and try again. I resolved my issue by installing the next version of Blender.

Sophia-Monrose commented

2024-06-09 20:03:31 +02:00

Ah ok, I have the most up to date blender version. I even tried the 4.2 Beta to see if that makes a difference (it doesn't..) I'll try to update my mac drivers to see if that works but if it doesn't then what? I'm super new to blender (downloaded it yesterday and I've been hooked!)

Dawid-Paterkiewicz commented

2024-06-11 20:32:50 +02:00

Try using Blender 3.6.5. If the problem persists, you can search for a solution on Google or on this forum. Unfortunately, I'm unable to assist you further :(

Sophia-Monrose commented

2024-06-11 21:56:55 +02:00

Hello!

I downloaded version 3.6 and it works! I guess my laptop is just crap :( but it gives me an excuse to spend some money I don't have!

Thank you for you're help 🙏 ☺️

Hello! I downloaded version 3.6 and it works! I guess my laptop is just crap :( but it gives me an excuse to spend some money I don't have! Thank you for you're help 🙏 ☺️

Dawid-Paterkiewicz commented

2024-06-11 22:35:39 +02:00

Hello!

I downloaded version 3.6 and it works! I guess my laptop is just crap :( but it gives me an excuse to spend some money I don't have!

Thank you for you're help 🙏 ☺️

Good for you :) It's nice to hear that. Perhaps newer versions don't support your hardware, but don't worry. Blender 3.6.5 has the majority of functions to learn and achieve great effects ;)

> Hello! > > I downloaded version 3.6 and it works! I guess my laptop is just crap :( but it gives me an excuse to spend some money I don't have! > > Thank you for you're help 🙏 ☺️ Good for you :) It's nice to hear that. Perhaps newer versions don't support your hardware, but don't worry. Blender 3.6.5 has the majority of functions to learn and achieve great effects ;)

Pratik Borhade commented

2024-08-01 08:10:20 +02:00

@Dawid-Paterkiewicz hi, crash is still around in 4.2?

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