deja vu sans stretched with new 4.0 renderer #115584

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Tobiáš · 2023-11-29T21:16:37+01:00

Tobiáš commented

2023-11-29 21:16:37 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10
Graphics card: RTX 3060

Blender Version
Broken: 4.0, 4.0.1
Worked: 3.6.6

Short description of error
Deja vu sans was replaced with new font in 4.0 (#112603). to accomodate the new font, there is also a new renderer, which is needed to make the characters of the font not too close together. However, when you override the new font with the old font, the characters are too far away due to the changes in the renderer (#105441).
adding comparison of the deja vu sans being rendered correctly in 2.93 and 3.6.5, but incorrectly in 4.0.1
Expected result
Both the new font and the old font should be rendered correctly, no matter what font you select

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Open blender 4
Go to Preferences, and in interface tab scroll down to text rendering
disable subpixel AA and set hinting to none
change interface font to deja vu sans from old blender install (DejaVuSans.woff2)
Blender now uses the old font, but the font is rendered too wide

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 Graphics card: RTX 3060 **Blender Version** Broken: 4.0, 4.0.1 Worked: 3.6.6 **Short description of error** Deja vu sans was replaced with new font in 4.0 (#112603). to accomodate the new font, there is also a new renderer, which is needed to make the characters of the font not too close together. However, when you override the new font with the old font, the characters are too far away due to the changes in the renderer (#105441). adding comparison of the deja vu sans being rendered correctly in 2.93 and 3.6.5, but incorrectly in 4.0.1 **Expected result** Both the new font and the old font should be rendered correctly, no matter what font you select **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Open blender 4 Go to Preferences, and in interface tab scroll down to text rendering disable subpixel AA and set hinting to none change interface font to deja vu sans from old blender install (DejaVuSans.woff2) Blender now uses the old font, but the font is rendered too wide

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Harley Acheson commented

2023-12-01 17:53:47 +01:00

Yes, this is unfortunately expected behavior. The old text placement was in error and was corrected, which therefore looks different than old behavior when using the old font.

The old behavior of our text output placed characters one half pixel closer than expected by their design. This error was unscaled, so the difference was less apparent as you increased the font size. As in being out half a pixel at 36 point was less noticeable than when at 11 point. But even this was a separate problem in that making a text string twice the font size did not result in a string that was twice as long. This sort of thing can be a problem for an interface that is meant to be scalable.

This has been corrected and we are now attempting to size, render, and place characters as close to typographically perfect as possible. This naturally makes our old font look half a pixel looser than we are used to. And that is one of (the many) reasons we changed our main font since it is a little tighter than Deja Vu Sans.

My best advice is to just select any font that you like the best and select a size and rendering options that you prefer. But we can't make the old font look like it used to, unfortunately.

Yes, this is unfortunately expected behavior. The old text placement was in error and was corrected, which therefore looks different than old behavior when using the old font. The old behavior of our text output placed characters one half pixel closer than expected by their design. This error was unscaled, so the difference was less apparent as you increased the font size. As in being out half a pixel at 36 point was less noticeable than when at 11 point. But even this was a separate problem in that making a text string twice the font size did not result in a string that was twice as long. This sort of thing can be a problem for an interface that is meant to be scalable. This has been corrected and we are now attempting to size, render, and place characters as close to typographically perfect as possible. This naturally makes our old font look half a pixel looser than we are used to. And that is one of (the many) reasons we changed our main font since it is a little tighter than Deja Vu Sans. My best advice is to just select any font that you like the best and select a size and rendering options that you prefer. But we can't make the old font look like it used to, unfortunately.

Harley Acheson closed this issue

2023-12-01 17:53:49 +01:00

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