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opened 2024-01-15 09:11:39 +01:00 by Emile MAEYENS · 31 comments
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-15 09:11:39 +01:00
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Operating system: Linux-6.7.0-060700-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.38 64 Bits, WAYLAND UI
Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro W6600 (navi23, LLVM 15.0.7, DRM 3.56, 6.7.0-060700-generic) AMD 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3

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Broken: version: 4.1.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2024-01-14 20:33, hash: 4effcd33a3f9
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

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Linux, the Ubuntu interface does not work anymore. No possibility to reduce or close the Blender interface window and much more

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Once the Blender program is open, its window bar stick to the upper bar of Ubuntu. No possibility to detach it. I can, also, no more reduce the window and I can no more see when the object is selected, the contour color does not change. Result, with this latest version of Blender, I can not use it at all anymore.

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-6.7.0-060700-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.38 64 Bits, WAYLAND UI Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro W6600 (navi23, LLVM 15.0.7, DRM 3.56, 6.7.0-060700-generic) AMD 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.1.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2024-01-14 20:33, hash: `4effcd33a3f9` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Linux, the Ubuntu interface does not work anymore. No possibility to reduce or close the Blender interface window and much more **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Once the Blender program is open, its window bar stick to the upper bar of Ubuntu. No possibility to detach it. I can, also, no more reduce the window and I can no more see when the object is selected, the contour color does not change. Result, with this latest version of Blender, I can not use it at all anymore.
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Pratik Borhade commented 2024-01-15 10:01:04 +01:00
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Hi, thanks for the report. Not a linux user myself so a small screen recording would help to understand the issue you're observing.
As workaround maybe you can close the console window to terminate blender

Hi, thanks for the report. Not a linux user myself so a small screen recording would help to understand the issue you're observing. As workaround maybe you can close the console window to terminate blender
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-15 11:33:19 +01:00
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I am in Asia, so my time is limited for today. I hope my graphic can help. For Linux it is a very important bug. I hope it is not a conflict with DirectX. I had to reset Blender to "Factory Settings". I had also conflicts with one or more "addons".

Now I can see the yellow outlines.

I am in Asia, so my time is limited for today. I hope my graphic can help. For Linux it is a very important bug. I hope it is not a conflict with DirectX. I had to reset Blender to "Factory Settings". I had also conflicts with one or more "addons". Now I can see the yellow outlines.
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Richard Antalik commented 2024-01-15 21:13:35 +01:00
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I assume this is wayland issue.

I assume this is wayland issue.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-16 02:57:05 +01:00
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It is only assuming! The other versions of Blender work! I will try to find, which version of Blender still work on Wayland.

It is only assuming! The other versions of Blender work! I will try to find, which version of Blender still work on Wayland.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-16 04:09:39 +01:00
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P.S. The "blender-4.0.2-linux-x64" works without problem, but there is an issue with "blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.0f8c8e475a11-linux.x86_64-release".

Blender should be graphics driver agnostic. Nor directX or Wayland

P.S. The "blender-4.0.2-linux-x64" works without problem, but there is an issue with "blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.0f8c8e475a11-linux.x86_64-release". Blender should be graphics driver agnostic. Nor directX or Wayland
Campbell Barton commented 2024-01-17 00:57:41 +01:00
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While I'm not on Ubuntu, I can't redo this problem with GNOME Shell 45.3 on Arch Linux.

  • Is Blender responsive?
  • Can you manipulate the 3D viewport?
  • Are all new windows that open also unable to close? (the file selector or preferences for example).
  • Can you close windows via Blender's File -> Quit.
While I'm not on Ubuntu, I can't redo this problem with GNOME Shell 45.3 on Arch Linux. - Is Blender responsive? - Can you manipulate the 3D viewport? - Are all new windows that open also unable to close? (the file selector or preferences for example). - Can you close windows via Blender's `File -> Quit`.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-17 09:54:14 +01:00
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It is at the transition on 16 January 2024 from the

"blender-4.0.3-candidate+v40.c40f63bb98b9-linux.x86_64-release"

to the

"blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.da6b45f9b831-linux.x86_64-release"

that the graphics and selection of objects on Ubuntu do no more work as usual with Blender!

So the modifications with the first version 4.1.0 cause the trouble on Linux.

It is at the transition on 16 January 2024 from the "blender-4.0.3-candidate+v40.c40f63bb98b9-linux.x86_64-release" to the "blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.da6b45f9b831-linux.x86_64-release" that the graphics and selection of objects on Ubuntu do no more work as usual with Blender! So the modifications with the first version 4.1.0 cause the trouble on Linux.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-17 10:10:38 +01:00
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Correction It is at the transition, the exact date is not known by me, from the

latest "blender-4.0.3-candidate" release

to the

"blender-4.1.0-alpha+main release"

that the graphics and selection of objects on Ubuntu do no more work as usual with Blender!

So the modifications with the first version 4.1.0 cause the trouble on Linux.

Correction It is at the transition, the exact date is not known by me, from the latest "blender-4.0.3-candidate" release to the "blender-4.1.0-alpha+main release" that the graphics and selection of objects on Ubuntu do no more work as usual with Blender! So the modifications with the first version 4.1.0 cause the trouble on Linux.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-18 02:49:08 +01:00
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While I'm not on Ubuntu, I can't redo this problem with GNOME Shell 45.3 on Arch Linux.

  • Is Blender responsive?
  • Can you manipulate the 3D viewport?
  • Are all new windows that open also unable to close? (the file selector or preferences for example).
  • Can you close windows via Blender's File -> Quit.

My answers on the questions

Is Blender responsive?

Meanwhile, I made the remark that from switching from 4.03 to 4.10, it is then that the bugs appeared


As for use 4.1 today (blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.d068407a004c-linux.x86_64-release)
Blender is responsive

---  Can you manipulate the 3D viewport?
Yes! But...
1) The top bar from the Blender window sticks to the top of the screen in Ubuntu
2) I can move the objects in blender but, I do not see the outlines of the object highlighted to show that it is selected

---  Are all new windows that open also unable to close? (the file selector or preferences for example).
No! I am unable to close the window in Blender.


--- Can you close windows via Blender's File -> Quit.

Yes! I can close the window Blender's File -> Quit. Also, by right-clicking on the mouse. For me, situated at the bottom of the screen.

In Ubuntu when a program freeze, you can close any "freezed program" with the use of the "System Monitor" and then use the tag "Processes", where all the open programs are listed and in the listing select "Blender", click on it with the mouse and then ask to "kill" it. So we do not have to reboot each time when there is a bug! This spare time and the hardware.

Be careful, today Ubuntu was only with Wayland, it can no more work decently with the other graphic systems.

> While I'm not on Ubuntu, I can't redo this problem with GNOME Shell 45.3 on Arch Linux. > > - Is Blender responsive? > - Can you manipulate the 3D viewport? > - Are all new windows that open also unable to close? (the file selector or preferences for example). > - Can you close windows via Blender's `File -> Quit`. My answers on the questions Is Blender responsive? Meanwhile, I made the remark that from switching from 4.03 to 4.10, it is then that the bugs appeared As for use 4.1 today (blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.d068407a004c-linux.x86_64-release) Blender is responsive --- Can you manipulate the 3D viewport? Yes! But... 1) The top bar from the Blender window sticks to the top of the screen in Ubuntu 2) I can move the objects in blender but, I do not see the outlines of the object highlighted to show that it is selected --- Are all new windows that open also unable to close? (the file selector or preferences for example). No! I am unable to close the window in Blender. --- Can you close windows via Blender's File -> Quit. Yes! I can close the window Blender's File -> Quit. Also, by right-clicking on the mouse. For me, situated at the bottom of the screen. In Ubuntu when a program freeze, you can close any "freezed program" with the use of the "System Monitor" and then use the tag "Processes", where all the open programs are listed and in the listing select "Blender", click on it with the mouse and then ask to "kill" it. So we do not have to reboot each time when there is a bug! This spare time and the hardware. Be careful, today Ubuntu was only with Wayland, it can no more work decently with the other graphic systems.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-18 02:51:41 +01:00
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Correction precedent comment:

...today, Ubuntu uses only Wayland.,...

Correction precedent comment: ...today, Ubuntu uses only Wayland.,...
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-18 03:02:21 +01:00
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Other correction!
"Also, by right-clicking on the mouse. On my screen, also with the "Bender Icon", situated at the bottom menu bar of the screen."

Other correction! "Also, by right-clicking on the mouse. On my screen, also with the "Bender Icon", situated at the bottom menu bar of the screen."
Campbell Barton commented 2024-01-18 03:05:35 +01:00
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  • What version of ubuntu & gnome-shell are you running?
  • Can you check if this happens with any other user of LIBDECOR? (Any application using SDL2 for windowing).
@Artemile - What version of ubuntu & gnome-shell are you running? - Can you check if this happens with any other user of LIBDECOR? (Any application using SDL2 for windowing).
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-18 06:29:49 +01:00
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I use Ubuntu 23.10.

I only use "libsdl2-2.0-0" on Ubuntu for SDL2.

I will install "libsdl2-image-2.0-0" and see what happen.
I ought to upgrade "gnome-shell-common" to version "45.0-1ubuntu2". This happens not automatically.

I do it now, and I will then let you know the results.

I use Ubuntu 23.10. I only use "libsdl2-2.0-0" on Ubuntu for SDL2. I will install "libsdl2-image-2.0-0" and see what happen. I ought to upgrade "gnome-shell-common" to version "45.0-1ubuntu2". This happens not automatically. I do it now, and I will then let you know the results.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-18 07:14:52 +01:00
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After upgrading the gnome-shell "45.0-1ubuntu2" the problems on Blender persists.

I thought to install Arch Linux on my system, but it has too many problems with their upgrades.

I will install all the "gnome-shell-extension" possible and see what happens.

If it helps, I will let it know.

With the version Blender 4.03, everything seemed to work normally, but with the upgrade to version of Blender 4.1, the interface of Blender, and more on my system went wrong.

I use Linux since 2006, and I stick to it. I never lost any data with it, and it is the most accessible to use, in any sense.

After upgrading the gnome-shell "45.0-1ubuntu2" the problems on Blender persists. I thought to install Arch Linux on my system, but it has too many problems with their upgrades. I will install all the "gnome-shell-extension" possible and see what happens. If it helps, I will let it know. With the version Blender 4.03, everything seemed to work normally, but with the upgrade to version of Blender 4.1, the interface of Blender, and more on my system went wrong. I use Linux since 2006, and I stick to it. I never lost any data with it, and it is the most accessible to use, in any sense.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-18 07:31:52 +01:00
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I installed all the "gnome-shell-extension" possible, to no use. It has to do with the graphics on Linux. I use AMD Radeon™ Pro W6600. Blender did not "see" the card, until I used version 4.03 of Blender. See the screenshot.

I installed all the "gnome-shell-extension" possible, to no use. It has to do with the graphics on Linux. I use AMD Radeon™ Pro W6600. Blender did not "see" the card, until I used version 4.03 of Blender. See the screenshot.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-21 07:19:28 +01:00
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There is indeed a problem with Blender on Wayland. With Xorg, it seems to work. Blender works, with HIP activated on AMD Radeon with Wayland and not with Xorg.

Other problem, to activate Xorg instead of Wayland, is not possible on Ubuntu 23.10.

There is indeed a problem with Blender on Wayland. With Xorg, it seems to work. Blender works, with HIP activated on AMD Radeon with Wayland and not with Xorg. Other problem, to activate Xorg instead of Wayland, is not possible on Ubuntu 23.10.
Campbell Barton commented 2024-01-22 01:33:20 +01:00
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I would like if this is a bug in libdecor or not see: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libdecor/libdecor

If it is, it may be that the bug needs to be fixed there.

Some other things to try:

  • Start blender with window geometry: blender --window-geometry 0 0 800 800
  • Start blender with blender --factory-startup --window-border

Can you manipulate the resulting window in these cases?

Further, I would think if this is a common problem we would have many similar reports, could you try add a new user without any custom configuration to see if the error still occurs?

I would like if this is a bug in libdecor or not see: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libdecor/libdecor If it is, it may be that the bug needs to be fixed there. Some other things to try: - Start blender with window geometry: `blender --window-geometry 0 0 800 800` - Start blender with `blender --factory-startup --window-border` Can you manipulate the resulting window in these cases? Further, I would think if this is a common problem we would have many similar reports, could you try add a new user without any custom configuration to see if the error still occurs?
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-22 11:52:43 +01:00
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Is it wise use Gitlab, which moved from Microsoft Azure to Google Cloud Platform?

Ubuntu is based on Debian. You can find libdecor on Debian, with another maintainer, Christian Rauch, and on Gitlab, the maintainer is Jonas Ådahl.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/libdecor-0-0

As you noted, Libdecor is a Library for Wayland client-side decorations. You can have the latest version with the following repository, but you need Linux to retrieve it. For Ubuntu and Debian. To use the latest versions of it with Ubuntu or Debian can bring risks. The latest version on Ubuntu is 0.1.1-2. I got a warning of Ubuntu for the latest version, 0.2.2., that it breaks my sytem. So I can not install it with Ubuntu. :

You can find it on the repository, "ppa:christianrauch/libdecoration"

Since 27 weeks, it has not been updated. So since too long it has not been modified to be the cause of the troubles with Blender

Note, you can have all the Debian packages on this site:

https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

As you can see over there, libdecor depends on several other packages, libc6, libwayland-client0.

But anyhow, Blender 4.03 works on my system. What have been modified with the advent of Blender 4.1 that suddenly Blender is broken on Linux?

Is it wise use Gitlab, which moved from Microsoft Azure to Google Cloud Platform? Ubuntu is based on Debian. You can find libdecor on Debian, with another maintainer, Christian Rauch, and on Gitlab, the maintainer is Jonas Ådahl. https://packages.debian.org/sid/libdecor-0-0 As you noted, Libdecor is a Library for Wayland client-side decorations. You can have the latest version with the following repository, but you need Linux to retrieve it. For Ubuntu and Debian. To use the latest versions of it with Ubuntu or Debian can bring risks. The latest version on Ubuntu is 0.1.1-2. I got a warning of Ubuntu for the latest version, 0.2.2., that it breaks my sytem. So I can not install it with Ubuntu. : You can find it on the repository, "ppa:christianrauch/libdecoration" Since 27 weeks, it has not been updated. So since too long it has not been modified to be the cause of the troubles with Blender Note, you can have all the Debian packages on this site: https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages As you can see over there, libdecor depends on several other packages, libc6, libwayland-client0. But anyhow, Blender 4.03 works on my system. What have been modified with the advent of Blender 4.1 that suddenly Blender is broken on Linux?
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Campbell Barton commented 2024-01-23 05:31:37 +01:00
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If it is, it may be that the bug needs to be fixed there.

Some other things to try:

  • Start blender with window geometry: blender --window-geometry 0 0 800 800
  • Start blender with blender --factory-startup --window-border

Can you manipulate the resulting window in these cases?

Please try these and report the results.

> If it is, it may be that the bug needs to be fixed there. > > Some other things to try: > > - Start blender with window geometry: `blender --window-geometry 0 0 800 800` > - Start blender with `blender --factory-startup --window-border` > > Can you manipulate the resulting window in these cases? Please try these and report the results.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-23 11:55:11 +01:00
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I finally managed to make Blender work again normally with the latest version,
blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.b5a9c98e04fa-linux.x86_64-release. Taking note that it worked with the latest version of Ubuntu 23.10. I erased everything on my PC and reinstalled the latest version of Ubuntu 23.10 with the latest version of Blender. But, all this, let me not know the causes of all the troubles and why it worked with Blender 4.03 and not 4.10.

I finally managed to make Blender work again normally with the latest version, blender-4.1.0-alpha+main.b5a9c98e04fa-linux.x86_64-release. Taking note that it worked with the latest version of Ubuntu 23.10. I erased everything on my PC and reinstalled the latest version of Ubuntu 23.10 with the latest version of Blender. But, all this, let me not know the causes of all the troubles and why it worked with Blender 4.03 and not 4.10.
Campbell Barton commented 2024-01-23 23:43:51 +01:00
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There may have been some configuration issue with your system. Whatever the case it seems likely this isn't a common problem or we would have other similar reports.

Closing.

There may have been some configuration issue with your system. Whatever the case it seems likely this isn't a common problem or we would have other similar reports. Closing.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-24 02:19:33 +01:00
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I agree, thanks for the help.

I agree, thanks for the help.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-24 11:25:15 +01:00
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I found another reason why it did not work correctly! I can no more activate the "HIP" on blender as before. Then today I can still not activate HIP and use the Graphics card, AMD Radeon Pro W6600, correctly, with Blender on Linux. Until now, the AMD Radeon Pro driver never worked with the latest versions of Ubuntu. I try to do it already for three years to make it working, but to no use except, before, until the cited bugs appeared.

I found another reason why it did not work correctly! I can no more activate the "HIP" on blender as before. Then today I can still not activate HIP and use the Graphics card, AMD Radeon Pro W6600, correctly, with Blender on Linux. Until now, the AMD Radeon Pro driver never worked with the latest versions of Ubuntu. I try to do it already for three years to make it working, but to no use except, before, until the cited bugs appeared.
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-24 12:35:34 +01:00
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Addendum, other bug! With the new installation, I can no more launch the precedent versions of Blender, except the latest ones.

Addendum, other bug! With the new installation, I can no more launch the precedent versions of Blender, except the latest ones.
Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-01-29 11:15:00 +01:00
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As you noticed, I use an AMD Radeon Pro W6600 Graphics card. To be able to still use the latest builds of Blender, I installed Ubuntu 22.04 again, together with the "amdgpu-install_5.7.50703-1_all.deb" driver. Everything works almost normal. We have to wait the updates of AMD, to suit the latest releases of Ubuntu.

With the installation of several graphic drivers, I saw, that Linux also installed "Azure modules and its patents" from Microsoft on Linux. Is Linux still open source?

As you noticed, I use an AMD Radeon Pro W6600 Graphics card. To be able to still use the latest builds of Blender, I installed Ubuntu 22.04 again, together with the "amdgpu-install_5.7.50703-1_all.deb" driver. Everything works almost normal. We have to wait the updates of AMD, to suit the latest releases of Ubuntu. With the installation of several graphic drivers, I saw, that Linux also installed "Azure modules and its patents" from Microsoft on Linux. Is Linux still open source?
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Addendum, other bug! With the new installation, I can no more launch the precedent versions of Blender, except the latest ones.

This looks to be unrelated to the first bug reported.

If older Blender's cannot be opened this is not something that we would fix in up-coming releases - so I think this report can be closed.

> Addendum, other bug! With the new installation, I can no more launch the precedent versions of Blender, except the latest ones. This looks to be unrelated to the first bug reported. If older Blender's cannot be opened this is not something that we would fix in up-coming releases - so I think this report can be closed.
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If older Blender's cannot be opened this is not something that we would fix in up-coming releases - so I think this report can be closed.

Will close then.

As for newly discovered bugs, please make new report(s).

> If older Blender's cannot be opened this is not something that we would fix in up-coming releases - so I think this report can be closed. Will close then. As for newly discovered bugs, please make new report(s).
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Emile MAEYENS commented 2024-02-03 05:29:32 +01:00
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All has not been written with the development of Blender with Ubuntu. As Ubuntu is in development, it is advised to install also : libdecor-0-dev, libdecor-0-plugin-1-gtk with the Ubuntu system. So the troubles are indeed provoked by "libdecor"!

Once installed you can use Blender 4.01 almost completely, without trouble, except with some of the icons of the Gnome windows, but de menus in Blender are working.

It can be useful for the use or trying of a new add-on on Ubuntu.

All has not been written with the development of Blender with Ubuntu. As Ubuntu is in development, it is advised to install also : libdecor-0-dev, libdecor-0-plugin-1-gtk with the Ubuntu system. So the troubles are indeed provoked by "libdecor"! Once installed you can use Blender 4.01 almost completely, without trouble, except with some of the icons of the Gnome windows, but de menus in Blender are working. It can be useful for the use or trying of a new add-on on Ubuntu.
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@Artemile your replies here seem to hint that there are issues with libdecor, but it's not clear if there are issues to resolve on Blender's side.

Closing this report.

If you have reproducible steps to cause an error, please make a new report with those steps.

@Artemile your replies here seem to hint that there are issues with libdecor, but it's not clear if there are issues to resolve on Blender's side. Closing this report. If you have reproducible steps to cause an error, please make a new report with those steps.
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