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EEVEE Next regression: Viewport navigation: Jittered shadows #123269

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opened 2024-06-15 17:42:50 +02:00 by David Black · 6 comments
David Black commented 2024-06-15 17:42:50 +02:00
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Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon. kernel 6.5.0-35
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Broken: blender-4.2.0-beta+v42.6f724b83c663-linux.x86_64-release.tar.xz (and newer)
Worked: blender-4.2.0-beta+v42.965a13867111-linux.x86_64-release.tar.xz

Short description of error
Pausing after Viewport navigation results in no jittered shadows

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  1. Load the Jittered_shadow_issue.blend
  2. Using middle mouse button / navigation gizmo, rotate the view
  3. Keeping mouse button pressed / navigation gizmo activated, stop rotation and pause for a moment
  4. Releasing mouse button / navigation gizmo, results in no jittered shadows

Hi @Jeroen-Bakker,
Possibly caused by e1ee3ed7df commit?

Kind regards.

**System Information** Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon. kernel 6.5.0-35 3400G **Blender Version** Broken: blender-4.2.0-beta+v42.6f724b83c663-linux.x86_64-release.tar.xz (and newer) Worked: blender-4.2.0-beta+v42.965a13867111-linux.x86_64-release.tar.xz **Short description of error** Pausing after Viewport navigation results in no jittered shadows **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1. Load the [`Jittered_shadow_issue.blend`]([Jittered_shadow_issue.blend](/attachments/bd4726ba-3111-4fcc-8f0e-aed9ae26f39f)) 2. Using middle mouse button / navigation gizmo, rotate the view 3. Keeping mouse button pressed / navigation gizmo activated, stop rotation and pause for a moment 4. Releasing mouse button / navigation gizmo, results in no jittered shadows Hi @Jeroen-Bakker, Possibly caused by https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/commit/e1ee3ed7dff9fb01624c32e085853b4906e8464d commit? Kind regards.
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Alaska commented 2024-06-16 15:31:36 +02:00
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Since Jereon has taking on fixing this issue, I will mark it as confirmed.

Since Jereon has taking on fixing this issue, I will mark it as confirmed.
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David Black commented 2024-06-18 20:19:21 +02:00
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Thank you @Jeroen-Bakker for your rapid fix.

Feedback after testing...

Appears e1ee3ed7df functionality is now only operational if jittered shadows Viewport option is disabled?
With jittered shadows enabled, the Viewport bubbles (for want of a better term), like it previously did while navigating and pausing.

Is it possible to keep the aesthetically pleasing e1ee3ed7df style while navigating, and repaint the Viewport including jittered shadows, as the mouse button is released?

Thank you for your time, consideration, and amazing coding skills.

Thank you @Jeroen-Bakker for your rapid fix. **Feedback after testing...** Appears https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/commit/e1ee3ed7dff9fb01624c32e085853b4906e8464d functionality is now only operational if jittered shadows Viewport option is disabled? With jittered shadows enabled, the Viewport bubbles (for want of a better term), like it previously did while navigating and pausing. Is it possible to keep the aesthetically pleasing https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/commit/e1ee3ed7dff9fb01624c32e085853b4906e8464d style while navigating, and repaint the Viewport including jittered shadows, as the mouse button is released? Thank you for your time, consideration, and amazing coding skills.
Jeroen Bakker commented 2024-06-19 11:41:09 +02:00
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We rather keep the number of options limited otherwise the UI gets cluttered with options many users don't touch. Technically what you ask is possible, it is unclear if this is a good default for most cases.
Perhaps open a RCS to get user feedback or post on our feedback thread in devtalk

We rather keep the number of options limited otherwise the UI gets cluttered with options many users don't touch. Technically what you ask is possible, it is unclear if this is a good default for most cases. Perhaps open a RCS to get user feedback or post on our feedback thread in devtalk
David Black commented 2024-06-19 20:06:36 +02:00
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Ah! Didn't mean adding extra UI options, just how the implementation works behind the scenes.

Ah! Didn't mean adding extra UI options, just how the implementation works behind the scenes.
David Black commented 2024-06-19 20:15:41 +02:00
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Tried making some videos to help explain (for the videos, Viewport Pixel Size 2x for improved iGPU performance).

Current - without jittered shadows

Current - with jittered shadows

Tried making some videos to help explain (for the videos, Viewport Pixel Size 2x for improved iGPU performance). **Current - without jittered shadows** <video src="/attachments/9c50b3a2-1a52-455e-bd70-b9870720317e" title="Current - without jittered shadows.mp4" controls></video> **Current - with jittered shadows** <video src="/attachments/b0c6c90b-9473-4df6-9927-cfef973d43cb" title="Current - with jittered shadows.mp4" controls></video>
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David Black commented 2024-06-20 19:07:55 +02:00
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Apologies @Jeroen-Bakker for extra comments (current 'Edit' comments limitation**),

Previous 'Proposed...' video didn't illustrate well how nice the Viewport appears with your patch, so created a new version...

Proposed - with jittered shadows
(basically, same as the 1st video (without jittered shadows), except, after navigation, as the mouse button is released, the Viewport is repainted adding the jittered shadows)

**Adding new files to a previous comment only provides a 'Remove file' option, without a 'Copy link' option.

Apologies @Jeroen-Bakker for extra comments (current 'Edit' comments limitation**), Previous 'Proposed...' video didn't illustrate well how nice the Viewport appears with your patch, so created a new version... **Proposed - with jittered shadows** (basically, same as the 1st video (without jittered shadows), except, after navigation, as the mouse button is released, the Viewport is repainted adding the jittered shadows) <video src="/attachments/f5279c5b-849c-4ff2-847e-d5ac9142931c" title="Proposed - with jittered shadows.mp4" controls></video> **Adding new files to a previous comment only provides a 'Remove file' option, without a 'Copy link' option.
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