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Frames Not Updated in Separate Dopesheet Window #128966

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opened 2024-10-14 03:02:18 +02:00 by Eduardo-9 · 9 comments
Eduardo-9 commented 2024-10-14 03:02:18 +02:00
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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22621-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.6.0 NVIDIA 565.90

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Broken: version: 4.2.0, branch: blender-v4.2-release, commit date: 2024-07-16 06:20, hash: a51f293548ad
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
When title bar is held stationary with LMB, render or playback does not update

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  • Open Blender with default layout
  • Press Space to start animation, See current frame changing in Timeline
  • With Timeline, "Duplicate Area into New Window"
  • See that the current frame indicator changes in both windows
  • Change the new window editor from Timeline to Dopesheet
  • See that the new window no longer changes frames.
**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22621-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.6.0 NVIDIA 565.90 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 4.2.0, branch: blender-v4.2-release, commit date: 2024-07-16 06:20, hash: `a51f293548ad` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** When title bar is held stationary with LMB, render or playback does not update **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** * Open Blender with default layout * Press Space to start animation, See current frame changing in Timeline * With Timeline, "Duplicate Area into New Window" * See that the current frame indicator changes in **both** windows * Change the new window editor from Timeline to Dopesheet * See that the new window no longer changes frames.
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Pratik Borhade commented 2024-10-14 05:44:27 +02:00
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Hi, thanks for the report. This is true when window is held with left click, will update the report.

Hi, thanks for the report. This is true when window is held with left click, will update the report.
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Pratik Borhade changed title from "Duplicate area into new window - Glitch to Scene does not update when title bar is held stationary with LMB 2024-10-14 05:46:38 +02:00
YimingWu commented 2024-10-14 10:22:46 +02:00
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This could be due to how your windows desktop environment is set up. In Windows appearance settings you could try enable/disabling window animation and preview when scaling/moving the window. Windows and your driver may or may not want to refresh the content of the window when you are moving it depending on your configuration.

This could be due to how your windows desktop environment is set up. In Windows appearance settings you could try enable/disabling window animation and preview when scaling/moving the window. Windows and your driver may or may not want to refresh the content of the window when you are moving it depending on your configuration.
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Eduardo-9 commented 2024-10-16 03:17:24 +02:00
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This could be due to how your windows desktop environment is set up. In Windows appearance settings you could try enable/disabling window animation and preview when scaling/moving the window. Windows and your driver may or may not want to refresh the content of the window when you are moving it depending on your configuration.

Every other window is working properly, this only happens when I use the option "Duplicate area into new window" or "Window/New Window" Specially if I set the new window to Dope Sheet or Graph editor.

I tried with different "windows appearance settings" and some "Nvidia graphic settings" but there is no difference
I tried on Blender 4.3 Beta, same problem.

I also tried it on a Macbook M1, found the same bug, and found that it only works properly if you have the mouse cursor on the header or the channel area of the new window before hitting "Play"

> This could be due to how your windows desktop environment is set up. In Windows appearance settings you could try enable/disabling window animation and preview when scaling/moving the window. Windows and your driver may or may not want to refresh the content of the window when you are moving it depending on your configuration. Every other window is working properly, this only happens when I use the option "Duplicate area into new window" or "Window/New Window" Specially if I set the new window to Dope Sheet or Graph editor. I tried with different "windows appearance settings" and some "Nvidia graphic settings" but there is no difference I tried on Blender 4.3 Beta, same problem. I also tried it on a Macbook M1, found the same bug, and found that it only works properly if you have the mouse cursor on the header or the channel area of the new window before hitting "Play"
Harley Acheson commented 2024-10-16 19:22:37 +02:00
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Every other window is working properly,

Not seeing that. If I just launch Blender with defaults, click "play", then hold my mouse down on the titlebar, without moving it, I see the animation stop. So this is with all windows.

But this also seems pretty normal. You are clicking OUTSIDE of our window and this title-dragging process is handled by the operating system. It is blocking our thread while it does so. As you move your mouse the OS will then send messages to us and let us process the movement, but this remains an OS-handled process until you lift up again.

Why are you wanting to press down with your mouse in the titlebar without moving it?

> Every other window is working properly, Not seeing that. If I just launch Blender with defaults, click "play", then hold my mouse down on the titlebar, **without moving it**, I see the animation stop. So this is with all windows. But this also seems pretty normal. You are clicking OUTSIDE of our window and this title-dragging process is handled by the operating system. It is blocking our thread while it does so. As you move your mouse the OS will then send messages to us and let us process the movement, but this remains an OS-handled process until you lift up again. Why are you wanting to press down with your mouse in the titlebar without moving it?
Eduardo-9 commented 2024-10-16 22:46:40 +02:00
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Every other window is working properly,

Not seeing that. If I just launch Blender with defaults, click "play", then hold my mouse down on the titlebar, without moving it, I see the animation stop. So this is with all windows.

But this also seems pretty normal. You are clicking OUTSIDE of our window and this title-dragging process is handled by the operating system. It is blocking our thread while it does so. As you move your mouse the OS will then send messages to us and let us process the movement, but this remains an OS-handled process until you lift up again.

Why are you wanting to press down with your mouse in the titlebar without moving it?

The problem is that the new window is not updating/drawing properly, here is a vídeo of it, and it happens on different machines PC and Mac

> > Every other window is working properly, > > Not seeing that. If I just launch Blender with defaults, click "play", then hold my mouse down on the titlebar, **without moving it**, I see the animation stop. So this is with all windows. > > But this also seems pretty normal. You are clicking OUTSIDE of our window and this title-dragging process is handled by the operating system. It is blocking our thread while it does so. As you move your mouse the OS will then send messages to us and let us process the movement, but this remains an OS-handled process until you lift up again. > > Why are you wanting to press down with your mouse in the titlebar without moving it? > > The problem is that the new window is not updating/drawing properly, here is a vídeo of it, and it happens on different machines PC and Mac
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Eduardo-9 commented 2024-10-16 22:55:00 +02:00
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And here I’m trying to show how it works properly when i have the mouse cursor on top of the header or the channel area before hiting play

And here I’m trying to show how it works properly when i have the mouse cursor on top of the header or the channel area before hiting play
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Harley Acheson commented 2024-10-16 23:29:53 +02:00
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Sorry, so far I'm unable to recreate what you show in either video. No matter where my mouse is when I start/stop the animation the two windows stay in synch.

But I'm also not seeing how the videos relate to the original complain that "When title bar is held stationary with LMB, render or playback does not update" since you don't seem to do that in either video.

Sorry, so far I'm unable to recreate what you show in either video. No matter where my mouse is when I start/stop the animation the two windows stay in synch. But I'm also not seeing how the videos relate to the original complain that "When title bar is held stationary with LMB, render or playback does not update" since you don't seem to do that in either video.
Harley Acheson commented 2024-10-17 00:11:37 +02:00
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Oh, I can see the behavior shown in the videos. But the area has to be Dopesheet. Using Timeline - because the description says to "Open default scene" - I don't see that happen. But still not sure how any of it relates to "Hold window title bar with left click"

Oh, I can see the behavior shown in the videos. But the area has to be Dopesheet. Using Timeline - because the description says to "Open default scene" - I don't see that happen. But still not sure how any of it relates to "Hold window title bar with left click"
Harley Acheson commented 2024-10-17 01:10:06 +02:00
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Okay, I propose making the following changes to this bug report:

Title: Frames Not Updated in Separate Dopesheet Window

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error:

  • Open Blender with default layout
  • Press Space to start animation, See current frame changing in Timeline
  • With Timeline, "Duplicate Area into New Window"
  • See that the current frame indicator changes in both windows
  • Change the new window editor from Timeline to Dopesheet
  • See that the new window no longer changes frames.
Okay, I propose making the following changes to this bug report: Title: Frames Not Updated in Separate Dopesheet Window Exact steps for others to reproduce the error: * Open Blender with default layout * Press Space to start animation, See current frame changing in Timeline * With Timeline, "Duplicate Area into New Window" * See that the current frame indicator changes in **both** windows * Change the new window editor from Timeline to Dopesheet * See that the new window no longer changes frames.
Pratik Borhade changed title from Scene does not update when title bar is held stationary with LMB to Frames Not Updated in Separate Dopesheet Window 2024-10-17 04:56:59 +02:00
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