Drivers in Armature layer or in Bone Layers lock linked armature #38139

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Juan Pablo Bouza · 2014-01-09T13:40:23+01:00

Juan Pablo Bouza commented

2014-01-09 13:40:23 +01:00

Ubuntu 13.04 64 bits

Hash: 17a4ba2

I've attached a sample blend file with 2 Armatures that belong to 2 different groups that are called as follows:

armature_layers
bone_layers

Well, the name of the group correspond to where I have added a driver in the armature. So, one armature has a driver in the armature layer properties, and the other one has it in the layer properties of one of its bones.

Now, If you link these groups into a new blend file and make a proxy of each armature, you'll notice that in the latest GIT, everything gets locked, that is, you can't move any bone in pose mode, and not even the empty of the group. I've come to the conclusion that these drivers, which were working perfectly well with linked rigs in 2.69, are the cause of the problem in GIT.

Ubuntu 13.04 64 bits Hash: 17a4ba2 I've attached a sample blend file with 2 Armatures that belong to 2 different groups that are called as follows: armature_layers bone_layers Well, the name of the group correspond to where I have added a driver in the armature. So, one armature has a driver in the armature layer properties, and the other one has it in the layer properties of one of its bones. Now, If you link these groups into a new blend file and make a proxy of each armature, you'll notice that in the latest GIT, everything gets locked, that is, you can't move any bone in pose mode, and not even the empty of the group. I've come to the conclusion that these drivers, which were working perfectly well with linked rigs in 2.69, are the cause of the problem in GIT.

Juan Pablo Bouza commented

2014-01-09 13:40:23 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Juan Pablo Bouza commented

2014-01-09 13:40:23 +01:00

Added subscriber: @jpbouza-4

Juan Pablo Bouza commented

2014-01-09 13:45:13 +01:00

linking_bug.blend

Trying to attach the blend file again. Guess it didn't work last time

[linking_bug.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F65193/linking_bug.blend) Trying to attach the blend file again. Guess it didn't work last time

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-01-09 14:08:07 +01:00

Added subscribers: @Sergey, @brecht

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-01-09 14:08:07 +01:00

I can see the difference, however both 2.69 and latest Git find dependency cycles in this file:

Dependency cycle detected:
  Bone_Layer depends on bone_layers_proxy through Proxy.
  bone_layers_proxy depends on Bone_Layer through Driver.

Dependency cycle detected:
  Armature_layers depends on armature_layers_proxy through Proxy.
  armature_layers_proxy depends on Armature_layers through Driver.

Maybe @Sergey knows if dependency cycles are handled different now in the threaded depsgraph, but these cycles can give problems in various situations and should be avoided.

I can see the difference, however both 2.69 and latest Git find dependency cycles in this file: ``` Dependency cycle detected: Bone_Layer depends on bone_layers_proxy through Proxy. bone_layers_proxy depends on Bone_Layer through Driver. Dependency cycle detected: Armature_layers depends on armature_layers_proxy through Proxy. armature_layers_proxy depends on Armature_layers through Driver. ``` Maybe @Sergey knows if dependency cycles are handled different now in the threaded depsgraph, but these cycles can give problems in various situations and should be avoided.

Sergey Sharybin self-assigned this 2014-01-10 09:58:18 +01:00

Sergey Sharybin commented

2014-01-10 09:58:18 +01:00

That's what i'm fighting right now.

Currently all the objects from the cycle are not updated. which is a real bummer. However, i don't know yet what would be the correct order of update in such situation.

That's what i'm fighting right now. Currently all the objects from the cycle are not updated. which is a real bummer. However, i don't know yet what would be the correct order of update in such situation.

blender-admin commented

2014-01-13 10:57:51 +01:00

This issue was referenced by blender/blender-addons-contrib@bc989497de

This issue was referenced by blender/blender-addons-contrib@bc989497deeaf2ec79ccfbe7b5e43509eb867b06

blender-admin commented

2014-01-13 10:57:51 +01:00

This issue was referenced by bc989497de

This issue was referenced by bc989497deeaf2ec79ccfbe7b5e43509eb867b06

Sergey Sharybin commented

2014-01-13 11:03:38 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Sergey Sharybin closed this issue