Sculpt Mode Ctrl + Right Click Shortcut absent #38814

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Angel Pat · 2014-02-24T20:02:37+01:00

Angel Pat commented

2014-02-24 20:02:37 +01:00

System Information
Win7 x64, GTX 590

Blender Version
Broken: (Blender 2.69.11 Hash e7f3424)
Worked: (Official 2.69)

Short description of error
The shortcut CTR+Right Click is absent on newer builds (This is extremely useful when you want to switch from one object to another while scultpting, some kind of Zbrush "sub tools" on Blender.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

0.-With the default cube:

1.- Dublicate the defaut cube and put the copy above the first (original cube)
2.- Switch to sculpt mode on the Cube.001 (the copy)
3.- Now if you hold CTR + Right click and click the original cube you notice that you've switched from cube.001 to the original cube, now with this cube selected (The original), switch again to sculpt mode.
4.- Notice if you want to switch from one cube to another just use the CTR+Right click.

5.- What are the advantages of this? Imagine if you had a character and then you want to quickly sculpt a helmet or a hat, with this technique is very easy and quick to do it without having to switch manually from one object to another.

6.- Completely absent on newer builds....

**System Information** Win7 x64, GTX 590 **Blender Version** Broken: (Blender 2.69.11 Hash e7f3424) Worked: (Official 2.69) **Short description of error** The shortcut CTR+Right Click is absent on newer builds (This is extremely useful when you want to switch from one object to another while scultpting, some kind of Zbrush "sub tools" on Blender. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 0.-With the default cube: 1.- Dublicate the defaut cube and put the copy above the first (original cube) 2.- Switch to sculpt mode on the Cube.001 (the copy) 3.- Now if you hold CTR + Right click and click the original cube you notice that you've switched from cube.001 to the original cube, now with this cube selected (The original), switch again to sculpt mode. 4.- Notice if you want to switch from one cube to another just use the CTR+Right click. 5.- What are the advantages of this? Imagine if you had a character and then you want to quickly sculpt a helmet or a hat, with this technique is very easy and quick to do it without having to switch manually from one object to another. 6.- Completely absent on newer builds....

Angel Pat commented

2014-02-24 20:02:37 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Angel Pat commented

2014-02-24 20:02:37 +01:00

Added subscriber: @AngelPat

blender-admin commented

2014-02-24 20:02:37 +01:00

#38837 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-24 20:43:12 +01:00

Added subscriber: @brecht

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-24 20:43:12 +01:00

It seems this got lost in {1fb9bb815a5df8ba3b4b2ebdaa4cad192fecd145}.

Campbell Barton was assigned by Brecht Van Lommel

2014-02-24 20:51:31 +01:00

Campbell Barton commented

2014-02-25 05:11:16 +01:00

This was never intended to work.

Ctrl+RMB

Edit-mode allows selecting objects for vertex parenting.
Object-mode selects objects from their center points only.

Blender 2.4x (where this convention was established) didn't allow Ctrl+RMB select in sculpt mode either, from what I can see Ctrl+RMB worked for some time in 2.6x more or less by accident.

Not that the behavior is bad to have, just I wouldn't call it a bug.

Vertex, Weight & Texture paint all allow selection, but sculpt mode explicitly exits,

view3d_select_exec checks for sculpt mode and exits,

 else if (obact && obact->mode & OB_MODE_SCULPT)
 	return OPERATOR_CANCELLED;

I can't see why all the other paint modes would work but not sculpt.

The commit that changed this was 0e37b49a2c

Would this be because paint conflicts with LMB select?

This was never intended to work. Ctrl+RMB - Edit-mode allows selecting objects for vertex parenting. - Object-mode selects objects from their center points only. Blender 2.4x (where this convention was established) didn't allow Ctrl+RMB select in sculpt mode either, from what I can see Ctrl+RMB worked for some time in 2.6x more or less by accident. Not that the behavior is bad to have, just I wouldn't call it a bug. Vertex, Weight & Texture paint all allow selection, but sculpt mode explicitly exits, `view3d_select_exec` checks for sculpt mode and exits, else if (obact && obact->mode & OB_MODE_SCULPT) return OPERATOR_CANCELLED; I can't see why all the other paint modes would work but not sculpt. The commit that changed this was 0e37b49a2c Would this be because paint conflicts with LMB select?

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-25 21:32:08 +01:00

Added subscriber: @junt

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-25 21:32:08 +01:00

◀ Merged tasks: #38837.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-25 21:46:52 +01:00

As reported in #38837 (Can not select any bone in Weight Paint mode with Face selection masking) it seems this was also useful in weight paint mode, so even if it's not strictly a bug I think it's still important to keep this working.

As for why I added that OPERATOR_CANCELLED for sculpt, I don't remember well. I think back then right click was color sampling in paint modes, and you couldn't select other objects anyway, so in some way this made things more consistent because sculpt was the only mode where you could switch objects with just right click. Border and circle select are already be used for masking in sculpt mode outside of this selection operator so it doesn't make sense to handle there.

I would make ctrl + click outside of object mode always do object selection, without the center point thing like this: ctrl_click_paint_object_select.patch

As reported in #38837 (Can not select any bone in Weight Paint mode with Face selection masking) it seems this was also useful in weight paint mode, so even if it's not strictly a bug I think it's still important to keep this working. As for why I added that `OPERATOR_CANCELLED` for sculpt, I don't remember well. I think back then right click was color sampling in paint modes, and you couldn't select other objects anyway, so in some way this made things more consistent because sculpt was the only mode where you could switch objects with just right click. Border and circle select are already be used for masking in sculpt mode outside of this selection operator so it doesn't make sense to handle there. I would make ctrl + click outside of object mode always do object selection, without the center point thing like this: [ctrl_click_paint_object_select.patch](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F78971/ctrl_click_paint_object_select.patch)

Campbell Barton commented

2014-02-26 05:37:01 +01:00

@brecht, checked the patch and it breaks ctrl+rmb select behavior in object mode (where only the object centers should be considered), will check on having it work.

Am not really happy how this process is working where some keys are accessible by accident then we have to support some oddly mixed configurations. Since 2.70 allows to break/change some behavior we could accept the change.

IMHO the report about sculpt is related to there being no key bindings to exit sculpt mode, so users got used to exiting by selecting another object.

I checked the "Sculpt" keymap and RIGHTMOUSE isnt used anywhere, so we could allow object selection in that case. But this still leaves Weightpaint+facemask+posemode...

It's late in the release cycle to be making changes so.. I'll check on how this could improved.

@brecht, checked the patch and it breaks ctrl+rmb select behavior in object mode (where only the object centers should be considered), will check on having it work. Am not really happy how this process is working where some keys are accessible by accident then we have to support some oddly mixed configurations. Since 2.70 allows to break/change some behavior we could accept the change. IMHO the report about sculpt is related to there being no key bindings to exit sculpt mode, so users got used to exiting by selecting another object. I checked the **"Sculpt"** keymap and RIGHTMOUSE isnt used anywhere, so we could allow object selection in that case. But this still leaves Weightpaint+facemask+posemode... It's late in the release cycle to be making changes so.. I'll check on how this could improved.

Campbell Barton commented

2014-02-26 07:10:25 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Campbell Barton closed this issue

2014-02-26 07:10:25 +01:00

Campbell Barton commented

2014-02-26 07:10:25 +01:00

Fixed 4a61df9c95 1dd7e759a0

Now sculpt mode can select without ctrl (as with other paint modes), and there is an exception for select+paint modes so they are treated like editmode.

Fixed 4a61df9c95 1dd7e759a0 Now sculpt mode can select without ctrl (as with other paint modes), and there is an exception for select+paint modes so they are treated like editmode.

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Sculpt Mode Ctrl + Right Click Shortcut absent #38814