Inset Faces Thickness & Depth Do Not Use Scene Units (i.e. Imperial) #46900

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Doug Cox · 2015-11-30T17:34:13+01:00

Doug Cox commented

2015-11-30 17:34:13 +01:00

System Information
Windows 10 / GeForce GTX 560 Ti

Blender Version
Blender 2.76b

This confused me for a while, but the the Thickness and Depth type-ins for the Inset Faces tool do not use the scene's unit settings when working in Imperial units.

Set the scene units to "Imperial"
Create a cube 1'x1'x1'.
Use the Inset Faces Tool (press "i" or select from the Tools panel).
Type in a Thickness value or Depth value.
Not the value is in meters still.

It would be extremely handy if these type-ins behaved similar to the Extrude tool -- meaning that they displayed in the scene's units. This way I could easily create an inset face by say 1" -- very useful for us crazy imperial people trying to use Blender for woodworking.

**System Information** Windows 10 / GeForce GTX 560 Ti **Blender Version** Blender 2.76b This confused me for a while, but the the Thickness and Depth type-ins for the Inset Faces tool do **not** use the scene's unit settings when working in Imperial units. - Set the scene units to "Imperial" - Create a cube 1'x1'x1'. - Use the Inset Faces Tool (press "i" or select from the Tools panel). - Type in a **Thickness** value or **Depth** value. - Not the value is in meters still. It would be **extremely** handy if these type-ins behaved similar to the Extrude tool -- meaning that they displayed in the scene's units. This way I could easily create an inset face by say 1" -- very useful for us crazy imperial people trying to use Blender for woodworking.

Doug Cox commented

2015-11-30 17:34:13 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Doug Cox commented

2015-11-30 17:34:13 +01:00

Added subscriber: @ziflin

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-30 20:03:15 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-30 20:03:15 +01:00

Cannot confirm that, neither with latest master nor with official 2.76b release, in Imperial units when I inset and type 1, I get 1' (1 foot), as expected. Linux here, but would not expect any OS bias on this area. Are you sure you are using official 2.76b release from http://download.blender.org/release/Blender2.76/ ?

Cannot confirm that, neither with latest master nor with official 2.76b release, in Imperial units when I inset and type `1`, I get `1'` (1 foot), as expected. Linux here, but would not expect any OS bias on this area. Are you sure you are using official 2.76b release from http://download.blender.org/release/Blender2.76/ ?

Doug Cox commented

2015-11-30 20:35:08 +01:00

Thanks for the quick response.

I'm enclosing a test scene and screenshot. The only other thing that I have done is to adjust the Grid scale and divisions in order to get a minor grid line every inch and a major one every 12". The cube was created as 1' x 1' x 1'.

Note that the Thickness/Depth type-ins do not show the unit type like the Extrude type-in. And to get 1" I had to use 0.0254 for the thickness.

Test.blend

Thanks for the quick response. I'm enclosing a test scene and screenshot. The only other thing that I have done is to adjust the Grid scale and divisions in order to get a minor grid line every inch and a major one every 12". The cube was created as 1' x 1' x 1'. Note that the Thickness/Depth type-ins do not show the unit type like the Extrude type-in. And to get 1" I had to use 0.0254 for the thickness. ![blender-inset-faces.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F261666/blender-inset-faces.png) [Test.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F261668/Test.blend)

Doug Cox commented

2015-11-30 20:51:44 +01:00

I also just noticed that the bottom quick-type-in (sorry don't know the name) that is displayed under the 3d window when the "i" key is pressed is not working properly either. If I had previously done an inset using the panel entry on the left (highlighted in the screenshot above), when I click a new face and press "i" it defaults to 0.0254 and looks correct in the 3d window (except for the original bug of having to use metric values). But if I begin typing 0.0254 (as shown in the quick-type-in below the 3d window) it is no longer the correct thickness when viewed in the 3d window (it is much smaller).

I am also unable to type in units such as 1" into the lower type-in. Is this a separate bug? (It applies to extrude and other hotkey based actions I assume).

I also just noticed that the bottom quick-type-in (sorry don't know the name) that is displayed under the 3d window when the "i" key is pressed is not working properly either. If I had previously done an inset using the panel entry on the left (highlighted in the screenshot above), when I click a new face and press "i" it defaults to 0.0254 and looks correct in the 3d window (except for the original bug of having to use metric values). But if I begin typing 0.0254 (as shown in the quick-type-in below the 3d window) it is no longer the correct thickness when viewed in the 3d window (it is much smaller). I am also unable to type in units such as **1"** into the lower type-in. Is this a separate bug? (It applies to extrude and other hotkey based actions I assume).

Doug Cox commented

2015-11-30 21:26:57 +01:00

One other thing that may have affected this was having Applied Scale. Without doing that on a cube with arbitrary dimensions, I was not able to get the same inset thickness all the way around the face.
So:

Add/Mesh/Cube
1'x1'x1' for dimensions
Apply / Scale
Select a Face
Inset Face
- Thickness of 0.0254 now required for 1"

One other thing that may have affected this was having Applied Scale. Without doing that on a cube with arbitrary dimensions, I was not able to get the same inset thickness all the way around the face. So: - Add/Mesh/Cube - 1'x1'x1' for dimensions - Apply / Scale - Select a Face - Inset Face - Thickness of 0.0254 now required for 1"

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-12-01 00:03:55 +01:00

Oh, I thought you were talking about the direct type-in in 3DView’s header bar… This one is working perfectly OK, to enable units typing here you need to switch the active (edited) setting to 'advanced' mode (using * key e.g.), also allows you to do some simple operations etc.

Can confirm the issue in the operator redo panel, will fix.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the direct type-in in 3DView’s header bar… This one is working perfectly OK, to enable units typing here you need to switch the active (edited) setting to 'advanced' mode (using `*` key e.g.), also allows you to do some simple operations etc. Can confirm the issue in the operator redo panel, will fix.

Bastien Montagne self-assigned this 2015-12-01 00:04:07 +01:00

Doug Cox commented

2015-12-01 00:31:16 +01:00

Thanks for looking into it. Sorry I'm new to Blender, how do you switch it to Advanced mode? I can't seem to find the right thing to search for in the docs and pressing "*" doesn't work? (Maybe because I don't have a numpad?) Thanks again!

Doug Cox commented

2015-12-01 00:41:04 +01:00

I think I found it, assuming advanced mode is normally = ? Is there a setting to make advanced mode the 'default' mode? Or is that = key needed to allow other keys to be used in that quick-mode?

I think I found it, assuming advanced mode is normally `=` ? Is there a setting to make advanced mode the 'default' mode? Or is that `=` key needed to allow other keys to be used in that quick-mode?

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-12-01 00:57:55 +01:00

Yep, = is fallback when you do not have direct access to * on your keyboard (which is case of german ones iirc - or vice-versa). And no, no way to change this behavior, you always have to type the key to switch to advanced mode.

Yep, `=` is fallback when you do not have direct access to `*` on your keyboard (which is case of german ones iirc - or vice-versa). And no, no way to change this behavior, you always have to type the key to switch to advanced mode.

blender-admin commented

2015-12-01 01:09:38 +01:00

This issue was referenced by b29ee36f6a

This issue was referenced by b29ee36f6ad1246d8c48aadc0992d76a2c598a0e

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-12-01 01:13:32 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2015-12-01 01:13:32 +01:00

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Inset Faces Thickness & Depth Do Not Use Scene Units (i.e. Imperial) #46900