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When I connect the new Denoise Node it appears in Black #68944

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opened 2019-08-20 23:57:26 +02:00 by Josu Manzanas · 39 comments
Josu Manzanas commented 2019-08-20 23:57:26 +02:00
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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce 8400 GS/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 3.3.0

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Broken: version: 2.81 (sub 2), branch: master, commit date: 2019-08-20 07:45, hash: f2cab8267f
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When I connect the new Denoise Node it appears in Black

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I connect the new Denoise Node in the composer and the Render appears in Black

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce 8400 GS/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 3.3.0 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.81 (sub 2), branch: master, commit date: 2019-08-20 07:45, hash: `f2cab8267f` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** When I connect the new Denoise Node it appears in Black **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** I connect the new Denoise Node in the composer and the Render appears in Black
Josu Manzanas commented 2019-08-20 23:57:26 +02:00
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Brecht Van Lommel commented 2019-08-21 00:06:17 +02:00
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Brecht Van Lommel commented 2019-08-21 00:06:17 +02:00
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Please attach a simple example .blend file to reproduce the problem.

Please attach a simple example .blend file to reproduce the problem.
Evgeny commented 2019-08-21 09:46:56 +02:00
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Evgeny commented 2019-08-21 09:46:56 +02:00
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I have same issue.
Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/wyND39m.png
.blend file: DenoiseTest.blend
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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13547 Core Profile Context 25.20.15031.1000

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Broken: version: 2.81 (sub 3), branch: master, commit date: 2019-08-20 22:35, hash: daba3e871f

I have same issue. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/wyND39m.png .blend file: [DenoiseTest.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7678321/DenoiseTest.blend) **System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763 64 Bits Graphics card: AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13547 Core Profile Context 25.20.15031.1000 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.81 (sub 3), branch: master, commit date: 2019-08-20 22:35, hash: `daba3e871f`
Tom Grod commented 2019-08-24 13:01:51 +02:00
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Tom Grod commented 2019-08-24 13:01:51 +02:00
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Same here.
version: 2.81 (sub 3), branch: master, commit date: 2019-08-24 07:02, hash: b7f786c0b1, type: Release
GeForce GTX 750 Ti OC
AMD Phenom II X4 965 CPU
Win 10 x64

Same here. version: 2.81 (sub 3), branch: master, commit date: 2019-08-24 07:02, hash: b7f786c0b150, type: Release GeForce GTX 750 Ti OC AMD Phenom II X4 965 CPU Win 10 x64
dark999 commented 2019-08-24 13:43:42 +02:00
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dark999 commented 2019-08-24 13:43:42 +02:00
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here work fine with @mortuusars .blend test file on linux Blender 2.81 daba3e871f (2019-08-20) AMD FX8350, 16GB DDR3, GTX690 2+2 GB VRam- Nvidia drivers 435.17, Factory Setting applied, LoadUI and Trusted Source disabled in file browser

here work fine with @mortuusars .blend test file on linux Blender 2.81 daba3e871ff5 (2019-08-20) AMD FX8350, 16GB DDR3, GTX690 2+2 GB VRam- Nvidia drivers 435.17, Factory Setting applied, LoadUI and Trusted Source disabled in file browser
Lauri Hastholm commented 2019-08-26 10:07:43 +02:00
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Lauri Hastholm commented 2019-08-26 10:15:54 +02:00
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Having the same problem with OIDN giving a black render result every time.
blender-2.81-daba3e871ff5-linux-glibc217-x86_64
Linux 4.15, 8GB DDR2, GeForce GTX 970, Nvidia driver 430.26

Having the same problem with OIDN giving a black render result every time. blender-2.81-daba3e871ff5-linux-glibc217-x86_64 Linux 4.15, 8GB DDR2, GeForce GTX 970, Nvidia driver 430.26
Brecht Van Lommel commented 2019-08-26 10:19:46 +02:00
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I can't reproduce the problem. Which CPU model do you have?

I can't reproduce the problem. Which CPU model do you have?
Lauri Hastholm commented 2019-08-26 10:52:24 +02:00
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AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (family: 0xf, model: 0x6b, stepping: 0x1)
cpu MHz: 2300
cache size: 512kB (x2)

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ (family: 0xf, model: 0x6b, stepping: 0x1) cpu MHz: 2300 cache size: 512kB (x2)
Marcus Papathoma commented 2019-08-26 11:01:15 +02:00
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Marcus Papathoma commented 2019-08-26 11:01:15 +02:00
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I think for Open Image Denoiser you need a cpu with SSE 4.1 or greater. Your cpu is too old!
See: https://openimagedenoise.github.io/
You can download cpu-z and see the extensions your cpu provides.

I think for Open Image Denoiser you need a cpu with SSE 4.1 or greater. Your cpu is too old! See: https://openimagedenoise.github.io/ You can download cpu-z and see the extensions your cpu provides.
Lauri Hastholm commented 2019-08-26 11:58:13 +02:00
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Ok, thanks @machieb that's the explanation. On Linux /proc/cpuinfo shows the CPU feature flags which for me includes sse and sse2 but no higher.
Us with an old CPU but a newer Nvidia GPU can still use the Optix/Cuda denoiser and related Blender add-ons.

Ok, thanks @machieb that's the explanation. On Linux /proc/cpuinfo shows the CPU feature flags which for me includes sse and sse2 but no higher. Us with an old CPU but a newer Nvidia GPU can still use the Optix/Cuda denoiser and related Blender add-ons.
Stefan Werner was assigned by Brecht Van Lommel 2019-08-27 11:18:23 +02:00
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I've mentioned this requirement in the release notes now. But I still think there should be some indication in the user interface.

I've mentioned this requirement in the release notes now. But I still think there should be some indication in the user interface.
blender-admin commented 2019-08-27 14:03:49 +02:00
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This issue was referenced by d547f9d3d2

This issue was referenced by d547f9d3d291b495a022e1e3bfbb5f4af25c02b1
Stefan Werner commented 2019-08-27 14:04:05 +02:00
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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'
Stefan Werner commented 2019-08-27 14:19:22 +02:00
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@laurijh I don't have a CPU without SSE4.1, it would be great if you could leave feedback here if my fix worked for you. On unsupported CPUs, you should now see a message in the node itself and it should now act as a passthrough instead of returning a black image.

@laurijh I don't have a CPU without SSE4.1, it would be great if you could leave feedback here if my fix worked for you. On unsupported CPUs, you should now see a message in the node itself and it should now act as a passthrough instead of returning a black image.
Daniel Santana commented 2019-08-27 15:38:59 +02:00
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Daniel Santana commented 2019-08-27 15:39:00 +02:00
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Commit d547f9d3d2 breaks builds, it's missing the BLi_system.h header on source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c.

diff --git a/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c b/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c
index 72a73f89227..b89f163f579 100644
--- a/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c
+++ b/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
 
 - include "BLI_blenlib.h"
 - include "BLI_math.h"
+#include "BLI_system.h"
 
 - include "DNA_node_types.h"
 - include "DNA_object_types.h"
Commit d547f9d3d291 breaks builds, it's missing the BLi_system.h header on source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c. ``` diff --git a/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c b/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c index 72a73f89227..b89f163f579 100644 --- a/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c +++ b/source/blender/editors/space_node/drawnode.c @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ - include "BLI_blenlib.h" - include "BLI_math.h" +#include "BLI_system.h" - include "DNA_node_types.h" - include "DNA_object_types.h" ```
Tom Grod commented 2019-08-27 19:13:34 +02:00
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In #68944#763645, @Stefan_Werner wrote:
@laurijh I don't have a CPU without SSE4.1, it would be great if you could leave feedback here if my fix worked for you. On unsupported CPUs, you should now see a message in the node itself and it should now act as a passthrough instead of returning a black image.

After a quick test I can say that it does work. There is a message saying that the node is disabled because SSE4.1 is required and the node act as a passthrough.

> In #68944#763645, @Stefan_Werner wrote: > @laurijh I don't have a CPU without SSE4.1, it would be great if you could leave feedback here if my fix worked for you. On unsupported CPUs, you should now see a message in the node itself and it should now act as a passthrough instead of returning a black image. After a quick test I can say that it does work. There is a message saying that the node is disabled because SSE4.1 is required and the node act as a passthrough.
rod commented 2019-12-27 07:53:24 +01:00
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rod commented 2019-12-27 07:53:24 +01:00
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If you are using an existing template script to batch render, make sure you update your command line to use a path to Blender 2.81

example...
replace
C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender
with
C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 2.81\

If you are using an existing template script to batch render, make sure you update your command line to use a path to Blender 2.81 example... replace C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender with C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 2.81\
Marcus Papathoma commented 2019-12-28 14:55:51 +01:00
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gregorystarr00@gmail.com commented 2020-06-02 20:47:19 +02:00
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I have this same issue, but I have an AMD Ryzen 7 3700x which does support SSE4.1. I recently upgraded from an i7 6700, and that worked fine with the denoise node. I am using Blender 2.82 from the official Arch repos.

I have this same issue, but I have an AMD Ryzen 7 3700x which does support SSE4.1. I recently upgraded from an i7 6700, and that worked fine with the denoise node. I am using Blender 2.82 from the official Arch repos.
Nick Enchev commented 2020-06-03 03:54:47 +02:00
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Nick Enchev commented 2020-06-03 03:54:47 +02:00
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I'm getting the same issue. I dual boot macOS on this PC which didn't have the same problem, seems to only happen on my [Arch] Linux.

Blender 2.82a
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
GPU: AMD RX 580
Arch Linux, X11, KDE

I'm getting the same issue. I dual boot macOS on this PC which didn't have the same problem, seems to only happen on my [Arch] Linux. Blender 2.82a CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz GPU: AMD RX 580 Arch Linux, X11, KDE
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michael campbell commented 2020-06-03 05:08:10 +02:00
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I've found the denoise nodes to only ouput black if there are too many of them. I'm guessing it's because they all get executed simultaneously rather than consecutively, so system resources get overwhelmed. There's an additional blend file to try in this report:

https://developer.blender.org/T77023

The denoise nodes that fail are random each time you render.

I've found the denoise nodes to only ouput black if there are too many of them. I'm guessing it's because they all get executed simultaneously rather than consecutively, so system resources get overwhelmed. There's an additional blend file to try in this report: https://developer.blender.org/T77023 The denoise nodes that fail are random each time you render.
gregorystarr00@gmail.com commented 2020-06-03 05:15:07 +02:00
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I'm only including it once, and it still has that problem.

I'm only including it once, and it still has that problem.
michael campbell commented 2020-06-03 05:22:46 +02:00
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is it a 4k render? Or perhaps you have other expensive nodes? It's happening for me only if my system runs out of ram whilst it's doing the compositing stage. What's your system ram and cpu usage when it's calculating the compositor?

is it a 4k render? Or perhaps you have other expensive nodes? It's happening for me only if my system runs out of ram whilst it's doing the compositing stage. What's your system ram and cpu usage when it's calculating the compositor?
gregorystarr00@gmail.com commented 2020-06-03 05:34:14 +02:00
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No, its 1920x1080. I have 16 gigs of ram, it only uses around 1-2 gigs image.png

No, its 1920x1080. I have 16 gigs of ram, it only uses around 1-2 gigs ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8573485/image.png)
michael campbell commented 2020-06-03 05:46:03 +02:00
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hmm, not sure then. Should work on AMD apparently. Maybe try 2.9 and see if that's any better.

hmm, not sure then. Should work on AMD apparently. Maybe try 2.9 and see if that's any better.
Nick Enchev commented 2020-06-03 16:04:35 +02:00
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I'm a beginner and doing a very simple tutorial (donut) with only 1 denoise node. Like I said, it works when I boot into my macOS, but not in Linux.

I'm a beginner and doing a very simple tutorial (donut) with only 1 denoise node. Like I said, it works when I boot into my macOS, but not in Linux.
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Evan Wilson commented 2020-06-09 17:31:37 +02:00
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@captainpicard99 & @Hastouki The Arch version of OIDN that is used to build the Arch version of Blender is corrupted. That is why you are getting this issue.
See https://github.com/OpenImageDenoise/oidn/issues/76#issuecomment-640953648

Please download the official version of Blender from the following link:

https://www.blender.org/download/

@captainpicard99 & @Hastouki The Arch version of OIDN that is used to build the Arch version of Blender is corrupted. That is why you are getting this issue. See https://github.com/OpenImageDenoise/oidn/issues/76#issuecomment-640953648 Please download the official version of Blender from the following link: https://www.blender.org/download/
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