VSE – Text Alignment is Wrong #71082

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opened 2019-10-24 22:58:27 +02:00 by ronsn · 24 comments

System Information
Operating system: Linux-5.0.0-32-generic-x86_64-with-debian-buster-sid 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GT 620M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 390.116

Blender Version
Broken:

  • version: 2.82 (sub 1), branch: master, commit date: 2019-10-23 16:40, hash: 9aa1bb6388
  • version: 2.81 (sub 15), branch: master, commit date: 2019-10-20 15:47, hash: 71538eaad6
  • version: 2.80 (sub 75), branch: master, commit date: 2019-07-29 14:47, hash: f6cb5f5449

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Short description of error
When adding a text strip in the video sequence editor and try to change the alignment, it seems to do the opposite of what you want to.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  • Open Blender with Video Editing workspace.
  • Add a text strip
  • Change the alignment in horizontal and/or vertical direction in the strip settings.

Have a nice day :)

  • VseNeedsMoreLove ^^
**System Information** Operating system: Linux-5.0.0-32-generic-x86_64-with-debian-buster-sid 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GT 620M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 390.116 **Blender Version** Broken: - version: 2.82 (sub 1), branch: master, commit date: 2019-10-23 16:40, hash: `9aa1bb6388` - version: 2.81 (sub 15), branch: master, commit date: 2019-10-20 15:47, hash: `71538eaad6` - version: 2.80 (sub 75), branch: master, commit date: 2019-07-29 14:47, hash: `f6cb5f5449` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** When adding a text strip in the video sequence editor and try to change the alignment, it seems to do the opposite of what you want to. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Open Blender with Video Editing workspace. - Add a text strip - Change the alignment in horizontal and/or vertical direction in the strip settings. Have a nice day :) - VseNeedsMoreLove ^^
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I agree it need some love, but this part seems to be ok.
In the image below the text alignment is really on the left, no?
Sem título.png

I agree it need some love, but this part seems to be ok. In the image below the text alignment is really on the left, no? ![Sem título.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7857032/Sem_título.png)

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Thanks for your replays! :)
So, if I understand that correct, the »Alignment« is not really an »Alignment«, but rather something like »setting the origin of the text block«?
Because an alignment would mean, that if I set the X Alignment to "Right", every line of text block starts on the right side, like the Icon tells (see blue arrow in the screenshot).TextAlignment_Issue.png. But every line always starts on the left side of that text block. People, who are reading from right to the left can't use that.
All that Icons are telling a complete different behavior of this functionality.

Thanks for your replays! :) So, if I understand that correct, the »Alignment« is not really an »Alignment«, but rather something like »setting the origin of the text block«? Because an alignment would mean, that if I set the X Alignment to "Right", every line of text block starts on the right side, like the Icon tells (see blue arrow in the screenshot).![TextAlignment_Issue.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7859863/TextAlignment_Issue.png). But every line always starts on the left side of that text block. People, who are reading from right to the left can't use that. All that Icons are telling a complete different behavior of this functionality.
Richard Antalik was assigned by Germano Cavalcante 2019-10-26 23:06:41 +02:00

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I just tested the left, in fact the alignment is not as indicated by the icon.
@iss, could you take a look at this one?

I just tested the left, in fact the alignment is not as indicated by the icon. @iss, could you take a look at this one?
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In #71082#801248, @tintwotin wrote:
[...] it needs some better tooltips, and if possible some better UI solution or icons? Or someone to rewrite the OP to align within an area instead.

Ja! The current tooltip is also incorrect and more confusing, as helpful. Maybe a blinking text marker would help to indicate, where the "origin" of that text block is?

> In #71082#801248, @tintwotin wrote: >[...] it needs some better tooltips, and if possible some better UI solution or icons? Or someone to rewrite the OP to align within an area instead. Ja! The current tooltip is also incorrect and more confusing, as helpful. Maybe a blinking text marker would help to indicate, where the "origin" of that text block is?
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In #71082#801460, @mano-wii wrote:
I just tested the left, in fact the alignment is not as indicated by the icon.
@iss, could you take a look at this one?

Thank you! :)

> In #71082#801460, @mano-wii wrote: > I just tested the left, in fact the alignment is not as indicated by the icon. > @iss, could you take a look at this one? Thank you! :)
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I just made set of icons, that would be descriptive enough for this function. Text Block Anchors:
text anchor_1 BIG.png

I just made set of icons, that would be descriptive enough for this function. Text Block Anchors: ![text anchor_1 BIG.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7869398/text_anchor_1_BIG.png)

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And why not change the actual alignment of the text? Being able to make centered or right-aligned titles in the VSE would be nice, right?

And why not change the actual alignment of the text? Being able to make centered or right-aligned titles in the VSE would be nice, right?

This issue was referenced by aff6446e06

This issue was referenced by aff6446e064f9bbce99d0a6eac3cff03c6878179

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

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Changed status from 'Resolved' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Resolved' to: 'Archived'

This is working as intended, removed the icons since they were misleading aff6446e06

This is working as intended, removed the icons since they were misleading aff6446e06
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... okay, wow... that is the love the VSE has needed xD

... okay, wow... that is the love the VSE has needed xD

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Discussing potential UI improvements isn't the purpose of the bug tracker.

https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug

Appreciate we have around 1000 open reports at the moment, if we accept suggested improvements, this can increase considerably without actually helping much if we don't have anyone to implement them.

If someone from the UI team likes to pick this up as a design task, that's fine.
However I suspect users really want text alignment to work as it does in a word processor instead of these basic placement options - tweaking the icons doesn't do much to address that.

Discussing potential UI improvements isn't the purpose of the bug tracker. https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug Appreciate we have around 1000 open reports at the moment, if we accept suggested improvements, this can increase considerably without actually helping much if we don't have anyone to implement them. If someone from the UI team likes to pick this up as a design task, that's fine. However I suspect users really want text alignment to work as it does in a word processor instead of these basic placement options - tweaking the icons doesn't do much to address that.

I'm sorry for requesting a feature here. Please don't give up Peter. I've added a proposal for this on RightClickSelect

I'm sorry for requesting a feature here. Please don't give up Peter. I've added a proposal for this on [RightClickSelect](https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect/JQdbbc/)
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