Reversing frames on video sequencer don't play them backwards #75178

Open
opened 2020-03-29 04:02:00 +02:00 by (Deleted) · 26 comments
(Deleted) commented 2020-03-29 04:02:00 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10
Graphics card: Nividia GEFORCE 940MX

Blender Version
Broken: ( 2.82a, 2020-3-12, as found on the splash screen)

Short description of error
Reversing frames do not play the frames backward as expected to when the strip is split.


Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
video sequencer -> Add an image strip -> cut the stip into 2 or three parts -> select the middle stip ->check the reverse frame checkbox.Reverse.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 Graphics card: Nividia GEFORCE 940MX **Blender Version** Broken: ( 2.82a, 2020-3-12, as found on the splash screen) **Short description of error** Reversing frames do not play the frames backward as expected to when the strip is split. ``` ``` **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** video sequencer -> Add an image strip -> cut the stip into 2 or three parts -> select the middle stip ->check the reverse frame checkbox.[Reverse.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8434631/Reverse.blend)
(Deleted) commented 2020-03-29 04:02:00 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author

Added subscriber: @(Deleted)

Added subscriber: @(Deleted)

Added subscriber: @ronsn

Added subscriber: @ronsn

It seems that the reversed frames are not shown at all?

It seems that the reversed frames are not shown at all?
(Deleted) commented 2020-03-29 07:08:47 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author

In #75178#899666, @ronsn wrote:
It seems that the reversed frames are not shown at all?

I am not sure why that's happening. Try rendering under png format and put that in video sequence editor. Split that into 3 clips and preview the middle clip, then check the reverse checkbox and preview it.

> In #75178#899666, @ronsn wrote: > It seems that the reversed frames are not shown at all? I am not sure why that's happening. Try rendering under png format and put that in video sequence editor. Split that into 3 clips and preview the middle clip, then check the reverse checkbox and preview it.

@JackSonPro For me it sounds like a critical bug, but I have to admit, that it's very late here (where I am from), so maybe I (or someone else) will take a look at this behavior later!

@JackSonPro For me it sounds like a critical bug, but I have to admit, that it's very late here (where I am from), so maybe I (or someone else) will take a look at this behavior later!
Ankit Meel changed title from Reversing frames on video sequencer to Reversing frames on video sequencer don't play them backwards 2020-03-29 10:57:33 +02:00

@JackSonPro Can you please recheck with this video , which I made? It's CC-0 btw.

sinus_thing.mp4
For me it worked with Blender version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-02-12 16:20, hash: 77d23b0bd7
It played correct in preview and as rendered video.

System specs here:
Operating system: Linux-5.3.0-42-generic-x86_64-with-debian-buster-sid 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 435.21

@JackSonPro Can you please recheck with [this video ](https://dev-files.blender.org/file/data/wawoivqvzxcmqcyl3ogz/PHID-FILE-pq76l5b74ibhn67ueqxj/sinus_thing.mp4), which I made? It's CC-0 btw. [sinus_thing.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8435710/sinus_thing.mp4) For me it worked with Blender version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-02-12 16:20, hash: `77d23b0bd7` It played correct in preview and as rendered video. System specs here: Operating system: Linux-5.3.0-42-generic-x86_64-with-debian-buster-sid 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 435.21

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'
(Deleted) commented 2020-03-30 07:46:58 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author

Screen Recording (3-30-2020 11-09-23 AM).wmv well the first screen recording is an image sequence, second is a video sequence.
As you could see that reversing a specific clip is not working as expected to.

[Screen Recording (3-30-2020 11-09-23 AM).wmv](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8436371/Screen_Recording__3-30-2020_11-09-23_AM_.wmv) well the first screen recording is an image sequence, second is a video sequence. As you could see that reversing a specific clip is not working as expected to.

@JackSonPro The VSE is using only one CPU core for this operation so it is a little bit lagging on bigger video files. That is, why I asked you to use my video and check again.

For your video project you should consider using *Proxies //.

So can you please recheck with my video and/or your video with proxies? :)

@JackSonPro The *VSE* is using only one CPU core for this operation so it is a little bit lagging on bigger video files. That is, why I asked you to use my video and check again. For your video project you should consider using *[Proxies ](https:*docs.blender.org/manual/en/2.82/video_editing/sequencer/properties/proxy_cache.html)//. So can you please recheck with my video and/or your video with proxies? :)
(Deleted) commented 2020-03-31 05:46:35 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author
[Screen Recording .wmv](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8438192/Screen_Recording_.wmv)

@JackSonPro We already knew that this 43 frame long video worked without proxies :D
What about the video with the forest?^^

@JackSonPro We already knew that this 43 frame long video worked without proxies :D What about the video with the forest?^^
(Deleted) commented 2020-03-31 16:47:04 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author
[Screen Recording (3-31-2020 7-55-30 PM).wmv](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8439278/Screen_Recording__3-31-2020_7-55-30_PM_.wmv)

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'
ronsn closed this issue 2020-04-01 23:02:12 +02:00
ronsn self-assigned this 2020-04-01 23:02:12 +02:00

@JackSonPro So it works as expected. Therefore I'm gonna close this task. Thanks for the report anyway :)

@JackSonPro So it works as expected. Therefore I'm gonna close this task. Thanks for the report anyway :)
(Deleted) commented 2020-04-02 02:39:10 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author

How is it working as expected? Isn't it supposed to reverse frames only in that specific region. Didn't I show how these frames were to be played when playes backwards. Well I think blender is still trying to reverse the whole video and then trying to match it with the middle clip. So can I know how will I be able to reverse only those frames in specific region? Almost all the video editors I have worked with in the past never tried to match it into specific regions by reversing the whole video.

How is it working as expected? Isn't it supposed to reverse frames only in that specific region. Didn't I show how these frames were to be played when playes backwards. Well I think blender is still trying to reverse the whole video and then trying to match it with the middle clip. So can I know how will I be able to reverse only those frames in specific region? Almost all the video editors I have worked with in the past never tried to match it into specific regions by reversing the whole video.

Added subscriber: @ChristopherAnderssarian

Added subscriber: @ChristopherAnderssarian

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Needs User Info'
ronsn was unassigned by ChristopherAnderssarian 2020-04-02 10:49:22 +02:00

@ronsn The report is about image sequence strips.
@JackSonPro I'm trying to reproduce, but can't get the same behaviour.
Could you upload the images you used (or images that work)?
Here's my attempt at reproducing:
#75178 (2.82a).zip
Could you give this a go?

@ronsn The report is about image sequence strips. @JackSonPro I'm trying to reproduce, but can't get the same behaviour. Could you upload the images you used (or images that work)? Here's my attempt at reproducing: [#75178 (2.82a).zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8443032/T75178__2.82a_.zip) Could you give this a go?
(Deleted) commented 2020-04-02 11:17:21 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author

In #75178#902037, @ChristopherAnderssarian wrote:
@ronsn The report is about image sequence strips.
@JackSonPro I'm trying to reproduce, but can't get the same behaviour.
Could you upload the images you used (or images that work)?
Here's my attempt at reproducing:
#75178 (2.82a).zip
Could you give this a go?

Cube.zip

> In #75178#902037, @ChristopherAnderssarian wrote: > @ronsn The report is about image sequence strips. > @JackSonPro I'm trying to reproduce, but can't get the same behaviour. > Could you upload the images you used (or images that work)? > Here's my attempt at reproducing: > [#75178 (2.82a).zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8443032/T75178__2.82a_.zip) > Could you give this a go? [Cube.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8443088/Cube.zip)

@JackSonPro:
Your video "Screen Recording (3-31-2020 7-55-30 PM).wmv" shows a camera movement forward into a forest.
At minute 1:19 you reversed the middle part and played the sequence again. The middle part now shows a camera movement backwards out of the forest, where the other two parts are showing the movement forward into the forest.
So the middle part is playing reversed as intended.

But maybe I misunderstood your words, which you wrote each time ;)

@ChristopherAnderssarian Yes I tested it also with image sequences and gave the sinus video because of the file size to let one convert it into sequences if needed, but got no feedback :D

@JackSonPro: Your video "*Screen Recording (3-31-2020 7-55-30 PM).wmv*" shows a camera movement **forward into** a forest. At minute 1:19 you reversed the middle part and played the sequence again. The middle part now shows a camera movement **backwards out of** the forest, where the other two parts are showing the movement **forward into** the forest. So the middle part is playing reversed as intended. But maybe I misunderstood your words, which you wrote each time ;) @ChristopherAnderssarian Yes I tested it also with image sequences and gave the sinus video because of the file size to let one convert it into sequences if needed, but got no feedback :D
(Deleted) commented 2020-04-02 16:43:13 +02:00 (Migrated from localhost:3001)
Author

@ronsn at 1:47 I unchecked the reverse check box and around 1:56 moved the Playhead backwards and well u could see the difference, camera doesn't come through the leaves when moving the Playhead backwards with reverse box unchecked.

@ronsn at 1:47 I unchecked the reverse check box and around 1:56 moved the Playhead backwards and well u could see the difference, camera doesn't come through the leaves when moving the Playhead backwards with reverse box unchecked.

Added subscriber: @iss

Added subscriber: @iss

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Confirmed'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Confirmed'

This is technically working as it was originally intended, but I agree that it is not desirable.

There are a lot of issues like this, parent task is #59540. This will be fixed at some point but I won't treat it as a bug right now.

This is technically working as it was originally intended, but I agree that it is not desirable. There are a lot of issues like this, parent task is #59540. This will be fixed at some point but I won't treat it as a bug right now.

Added subscriber: @Tard187

Added subscriber: @Tard187

Was this fixed? I don't want to deal with update just to find out its still not working, thanks!

NEVERMIND, I figured it out, works as intended with hold cut, I was just cutting the strip

Was this fixed? I don't want to deal with update just to find out its still not working, thanks! NEVERMIND, I figured it out, works as intended with hold cut, I was just cutting the strip
Philipp Oeser removed the
Interest
VFX & Video
label 2023-02-10 09:32:02 +01:00
Sign in to join this conversation.
No Label
Interest
Alembic
Interest
Animation & Rigging
Interest
Asset Browser
Interest
Asset Browser Project Overview
Interest
Audio
Interest
Automated Testing
Interest
Blender Asset Bundle
Interest
BlendFile
Interest
Collada
Interest
Compatibility
Interest
Compositing
Interest
Core
Interest
Cycles
Interest
Dependency Graph
Interest
Development Management
Interest
EEVEE
Interest
EEVEE & Viewport
Interest
Freestyle
Interest
Geometry Nodes
Interest
Grease Pencil
Interest
ID Management
Interest
Images & Movies
Interest
Import Export
Interest
Line Art
Interest
Masking
Interest
Metal
Interest
Modeling
Interest
Modifiers
Interest
Motion Tracking
Interest
Nodes & Physics
Interest
OpenGL
Interest
Overlay
Interest
Overrides
Interest
Performance
Interest
Physics
Interest
Pipeline, Assets & IO
Interest
Platforms, Builds & Tests
Interest
Python API
Interest
Render & Cycles
Interest
Render Pipeline
Interest
Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Interest
Text Editor
Interest
Translations
Interest
Triaging
Interest
Undo
Interest
USD
Interest
User Interface
Interest
UV Editing
Interest
VFX & Video
Interest
Video Sequencer
Interest
Virtual Reality
Interest
Vulkan
Interest
Wayland
Interest
Workbench
Interest: X11
Legacy
Blender 2.8 Project
Legacy
Milestone 1: Basic, Local Asset Browser
Legacy
OpenGL Error
Meta
Good First Issue
Meta
Papercut
Meta
Retrospective
Meta
Security
Module
Animation & Rigging
Module
Core
Module
Development Management
Module
EEVEE & Viewport
Module
Grease Pencil
Module
Modeling
Module
Nodes & Physics
Module
Pipeline, Assets & IO
Module
Platforms, Builds & Tests
Module
Python API
Module
Render & Cycles
Module
Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Module
Triaging
Module
User Interface
Module
VFX & Video
Platform
FreeBSD
Platform
Linux
Platform
macOS
Platform
Windows
Priority
High
Priority
Low
Priority
Normal
Priority
Unbreak Now!
Status
Archived
Status
Confirmed
Status
Duplicate
Status
Needs Info from Developers
Status
Needs Information from User
Status
Needs Triage
Status
Resolved
Type
Bug
Type
Design
Type
Known Issue
Type
Patch
Type
Report
Type
To Do
No Milestone
No project
No Assignees
5 Participants
Notifications
Due Date
The due date is invalid or out of range. Please use the format 'yyyy-mm-dd'.

No due date set.

Dependencies

No dependencies set.

Reference: blender/blender#75178
No description provided.