grid subdivisions has stopped working, so grid snapping is no longer effective. #75769

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michael campbell · 2020-04-16T02:01:57+02:00

michael campbell commented

2020-04-16 02:01:57 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.19

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.90 (sub 0), branch: master, commit date: 2020-04-15 15:46, hash: 4dc534aa04
Worked: 2.80 official release

Short description of error
Can no longer change grid subdivisions in orthographic view. The bug is in 2.83 and 2.90

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

2.80 changing grid subdivisions

2020-04-16 00-32-22.mp4

2.90 changing grid subdivisions (bug is also in 2.83)

2020-04-16 00-34-18.mp4

It would be a lot easier for the user if the floor was removed in favour of a unified grid for both perspective and orthographic. This way the perspective view would also benefit from the grid changing between km, metres, cm, mm based on zoom level. The floor just seems to be a less useful grid currently.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17763-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.19 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.90 (sub 0), branch: master, commit date: 2020-04-15 15:46, hash: `4dc534aa04` Worked: 2.80 official release **Short description of error** Can no longer change grid subdivisions in orthographic view. The bug is in 2.83 and 2.90 **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 2.80 changing grid subdivisions [2020-04-16 00-32-22.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8475987/2020-04-16_00-32-22.mp4) 2.90 changing grid subdivisions (bug is also in 2.83) [2020-04-16 00-34-18.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8475989/2020-04-16_00-34-18.mp4) It would be a lot easier for the user if the floor was removed in favour of a unified grid for both perspective and orthographic. This way the perspective view would also benefit from the grid changing between km, metres, cm, mm based on zoom level. The floor just seems to be a less useful grid currently.

michael campbell commented

2020-04-16 02:01:57 +02:00

Added subscriber: @3di

michael campbell changed title from ~~grid subdivisions has stopped working~~ to grid subdivisions has stopped working, so grid snapping is no longer effective.

2020-04-16 02:12:43 +02:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-04-16 10:59:11 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-04-16 10:59:11 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-04-16 10:59:11 +02:00

Confirmed, checking...

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-04-16 11:10:53 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Archived'

Philipp Oeser closed this issue

2020-04-16 11:10:53 +02:00

Philipp Oeser self-assigned this 2020-04-16 11:10:53 +02:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-04-16 11:10:53 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-04-16 11:10:53 +02:00

Guess I have to backflip on confirming this.
Looks like this was an intentional change, see 4bf37bafc2

from the commit message:

Another important thing to note is that subdivisions now only affect the grid without unity.
This matches with previous versions of Blender.

Not sure of the reasoning behind this [@mano-wii: maybe you can drop a comment? ], but it looks like we have to close this...

Guess I have to backflip on confirming this. Looks like this was an intentional change, see 4bf37bafc2 from the commit message: > Another important thing to note is that subdivisions now only affect the grid without unity. > This matches with previous versions of Blender. Not sure of the reasoning behind this [@mano-wii: maybe you can drop a comment? ], but it looks like we have to close this...

michael campbell commented

2020-04-16 12:01:05 +02:00

ah ok, that makes sense, perhaps when tooltips are grayed out they should mention why? For example the tooltip in this situation could have "set world units to none to enable" appended to the end.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-04-16 14:44:58 +02:00

In #75769#911045, @lichtwerk wrote:
Not sure of the reasoning behind this [@mano-wii: maybe you can drop a comment? ], but it looks like we have to close this...

This has been asked before.
Here are some reasons:

Intuitively this property is to be used without a measurement system because when you subdivide you would be changing the measurement system used and it would be neither metric nor imperial.
The imperial system does not have a common base, so it cannot be simply subdivided.

It may be a better idea to hide this property instead of disabling it.

> In #75769#911045, @lichtwerk wrote: > Not sure of the reasoning behind this [@mano-wii: maybe you can drop a comment? ], but it looks like we have to close this... This has been asked before. Here are some reasons: - Intuitively this property is to be used without a measurement system because when you subdivide you would be changing the measurement system used and it would be neither metric nor imperial. - The imperial system does not have a common base, so it cannot be simply subdivided. It may be a better idea to hide this property instead of disabling it.

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grid subdivisions has stopped working, so grid snapping is no longer effective. #75769