3D Mouse Inconsistent / Inaccessible UI #76918

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opened 2020-05-20 16:18:17 +02:00 by Dimitar P. · 9 comments

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.92

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Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: 375c7dc4ca

Short description of error

I know that in recent versions, some work has been done in regards to Space Mouse compatibility. I have a few Space mouse models and have found that pressing the "Menu" button on the larger space mouse enables a menu, unavailable anywhere else, with default settings that have all axes inverted.

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Is that menu available in any other way? When using one of the compact space mouse models with only two buttons, it seems impossible to get to that menu.May I suggest that the settings in edit > preferences > navigation > NDOF be the same as the popup when pressing the "Menu" button on the large space mouse models?

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**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.92 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: `375c7dc4ca` **Short description of error** I know that in recent versions, some work has been done in regards to Space Mouse compatibility. I have a few Space mouse models and have found that pressing the "Menu" button on the larger space mouse enables a menu, unavailable anywhere else, with default settings that have all axes inverted. ![blender_BGuRCwdK6k.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8544973/blender_BGuRCwdK6k.png) Is that menu available in any other way? When using one of the compact space mouse models with only two buttons, it seems impossible to get to that menu.**May I suggest that the settings in edit > preferences > navigation > NDOF be the same as the popup when pressing the "Menu" button on the large space mouse models?** ![blender_7uGuk7BnAn.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8544977/blender_7uGuk7BnAn.png)
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@ideasman42 I guess you're usually the one to look at 3D mouse compatibility. I'll have access to one starting next week though, so I can look at this sort of thing if you'd like.

I can trigger the first menu by pressing the left button on the smaller one. But I don't have it here to test and I don't see it in the keymap so I can't confirm ATM.

Personally I agree it would be helpful if the two menus you show in screenshots were the same, and the first could definitely use some layout work. But I'm not sure I'd call it a bug.

@ideasman42 I guess you're usually the one to look at 3D mouse compatibility. I'll have access to one starting next week though, so I can look at this sort of thing if you'd like. I can trigger the first menu by pressing the left button on the smaller one. But I don't have it here to test and I don't see it in the keymap so I can't confirm ATM. Personally I agree it would be helpful if the two menus you show in screenshots were the same, and the first could definitely use some layout work. But I'm not sure I'd call it a bug.
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I would call it a bug as it's impossible to set up the axis settings if you have a small space mouse due to the UI.

When I press the left button on the small space mouse, i get a 3dx connexion popup:
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and the right button:

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The menu button is mapped to 'application properties' on the space mouse enterprise:
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However, if i try to map the button on the small space mouse, it doesn't bring the same menu:
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I know that Blender ignores the 3dx connection settings, thought it may have been fixed. In any case, there is still no way to access that menu unless using a space mouse pro or space mouse enterprise.

I would call it a bug as it's impossible to set up the axis settings if you have a small space mouse due to the UI. When I press the left button on the small space mouse, i get a 3dx connexion popup: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8545048/image.png) and the right button: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8545046/image.png) The menu button is mapped to 'application properties' on the space mouse enterprise: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8545052/image.png) However, if i try to map the button on the small space mouse, it doesn't bring the same menu: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8545055/image.png) I know that Blender ignores the 3dx connection settings, thought it may have been fixed. In any case, there is still no way to access that menu unless using a space mouse pro or space mouse enterprise.
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Ah, I see. If the "Application Use" doesn't work for the small space mouse, I think that would be a bug with the 3D Connexion software rather than Blender.

But I see your point. It shouldn't be necessary to figure out the keymap to change all the settings for the 3D mouse.

Ah, I see. If the "Application Use" doesn't work for the small space mouse, I think that would be a bug with the 3D Connexion software rather than Blender. But I see your point. It shouldn't be necessary to figure out the keymap to change all the settings for the 3D mouse.
Hans Goudey self-assigned this 2020-05-20 17:29:37 +02:00
Hans Goudey changed title from 3D Connexion Space mouse inconsistent menus to 3D Mouse Inconsistent / Inaccessible UI 2020-05-20 17:30:31 +02:00

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