Simplify not working with object in sub-collection when is linked. #79820

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Aditia A. Pratama · 2020-08-16T07:30:58+02:00

Aditia A. Pratama commented

2020-08-16 07:30:58 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 965M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 451.67

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.83.4, branch: master, commit date: 2020-08-05 06:00, hash: c113af8288
Worked: none

Short description of error
When we put the GEO with subdivide modifier in sub-collection, then link the main collection, when we enable simplify and change the value, it won't change subd level. The workaround for link-proxy method is by changing mode (object to pose mode or vice versa). Well, this behavior is not affecting if we use override. Also if we link the collection when the simplify on, it will use the simplify subdivision level from simplify, but increasing it will not update the viewport.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Try extract below zip file, inside you'll find max-subd-on-simplify-not-update.blend file
open the file, and try changing the max-subdivision in simplify option.

simplify_with_linked.zip

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 965M/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 451.67 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.83.4, branch: master, commit date: 2020-08-05 06:00, hash: `c113af8288` Worked: none **Short description of error** When we put the GEO with subdivide modifier in sub-collection, then link the main collection, when we enable simplify and change the value, it won't change subd level. The workaround for link-proxy method is by changing mode (object to pose mode or vice versa). Well, this behavior is not affecting if we use override. Also if we link the collection when the simplify on, it will use the simplify subdivision level from simplify, but increasing it will not update the viewport. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Try extract below zip file, inside you'll find `max-subd-on-simplify-not-update.blend` file - open the file, and try changing the max-subdivision in simplify option. [simplify_with_linked.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8785220/simplify_with_linked.zip)

Aditia A. Pratama commented

2020-08-16 07:30:58 +02:00

Added subscriber: @AditiaA.Pratama

Richard Antalik commented

2020-08-19 03:24:20 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Bastien Montagne commented

2020-08-19 18:40:04 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2020-08-19 18:40:04 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs User Info'

Bastien Montagne commented

2020-08-19 18:40:04 +02:00

Not sure I understand? If I create an override hierarchy of the collection, that setting works as expected?

Richard Antalik commented

2020-08-20 03:03:13 +02:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Richard Antalik commented

2020-08-20 03:03:13 +02:00

In #79820#998905, @mont29 wrote:
Not sure I understand? If I create an override hierarchy of the collection, that setting works as expected?

That works, but

Also if we link the collection when the simplify on, it will use the simplify subdivision level from simplify, but increasing it will not update the viewport.

Shouldn't happen I guess. I checked that and confirmed report. I was distracted, sorry. I will create new report rather, I am not sure if I am missing something there as well.

> In #79820#998905, @mont29 wrote: > Not sure I understand? If I create an override hierarchy of the collection, that setting works as expected? That works, but > Also if we link the collection when the simplify on, it will use the simplify subdivision level from simplify, but increasing it will not update the viewport. Shouldn't happen I guess. I checked that and confirmed report. I was distracted, sorry. I will create new report rather, I am not sure if I am missing something there as well.

Richard Antalik commented

2020-08-20 03:24:46 +02:00

Reported here: #79935
@AditiaA.Pratama please check if this is the same thing that you are reporting.

Reported here: #79935 @AditiaA.Pratama please check if this is the same thing that you are reporting.

Aditia A. Pratama commented

2020-08-20 07:00:52 +02:00

@iss yes, it's the same behavior

Aditia A. Pratama commented

2020-08-20 07:03:01 +02:00

In #79820#998905, @mont29 wrote:
Not sure I understand? If I create an override hierarchy of the collection, that setting works as expected?

It's working in override but not with linked proxy

> In #79820#998905, @mont29 wrote: > Not sure I understand? If I create an override hierarchy of the collection, that setting works as expected? It's working in override but not with linked proxy

Bastien Montagne commented

2020-08-20 09:41:03 +02:00

Don't think it ever worked with proxies, and don't think it's expected to work... In any case proxies are legacy feature now, we keep it around until library overrides have been tested enough, and confirmed to be able to fully replace it, but there is no active development on them anymore.

Bastien Montagne commented

2020-08-20 11:30:34 +02:00

I think 341ff17326 also fixes that one actually?

I think 341ff17326 also fixes that one actually?

Aditia A. Pratama commented

2020-08-20 15:32:18 +02:00

In #79820#999248, @mont29 wrote:
Don't think it ever worked with proxies, and don't think it's expected to work... In any case proxies are legacy feature now, we keep it around until library overrides have been tested enough, and confirmed to be able to fully replace it, but there is no active development on them anymore.

understood, but when we don't proxy or override (keep as linked) the behavior persists (max subd won't affecting geo in sub-collection)

> In #79820#999248, @mont29 wrote: > Don't think it ever worked with proxies, and don't think it's expected to work... In any case proxies are legacy feature now, we keep it around until library overrides have been tested enough, and confirmed to be able to fully replace it, but there is no active development on them anymore. understood, but when we don't proxy or override (keep as linked) the behavior persists (max subd won't affecting geo in sub-collection) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8796759/image.png)

Bastien Montagne commented

2020-08-20 15:56:44 +02:00

@AditiaA.Pratama Did you check after that commit?