Experimental Features: Some features still (partially) available (hotkeys, menu entries) even if feature is disabled (e.g. sculpting hotkey "D" to switch meshes) #81617

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Graham Wiebe · 2020-10-11T06:19:06+02:00

Graham Wiebe commented

2020-10-11 06:19:06 +02:00

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-10-10 16:05, hash: 1b04eb6c44
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
the "d" hotkey to swap sculpting meshes does not work.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Open blender
duplicate the default cube twice into different positions
enter sculpt mode
try to swap to another mesh by pressing "d"
nothing happens

**Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-10-10 16:05, hash: `1b04eb6c44` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** the "d" hotkey to swap sculpting meshes does not work. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Open blender duplicate the default cube twice into different positions enter sculpt mode try to swap to another mesh by pressing "d" nothing happens

Graham Wiebe commented

2020-10-11 06:19:06 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Eavin

blender-admin commented

2020-10-11 06:19:06 +02:00

#82004 was marked as duplicate of this issue

blender-admin commented

2020-10-11 06:19:06 +02:00

#81881 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Alaska commented

2020-10-11 07:48:30 +02:00

Added subscribers: @PabloDobarro, @Alaska

Alaska commented

2020-10-11 07:48:30 +02:00

According to c79b913624, the keyboard shortcut to swap between meshs in sculpt mode has been shifted to the experimental tab of user preferences due to issues with undo and now it must be enabled for it to be used. So technically this isn't a bug.

However, the fact that the Switch object operator shows up in the keymap in the user preferences when the feature is disabled may be a bug? Not entirely sure.

cc @PabloDobarro

If you want to know how to enable this feature now that it's in the experimental tab, follow these steps:

From the top of Blender select Edit -> Preferences.
From the tabs on the left, select Interface.
Enable the option Developer Extras.
From the tabs on the left select Experimental.
Enable Switch Object Operator.

According to c79b913624, the keyboard shortcut to swap between meshs in sculpt mode has been shifted to the experimental tab of user preferences due to issues with undo and now it must be enabled for it to be used. So technically this isn't a bug. However, the fact that the `Switch object` operator shows up in the `keymap` in the `user preferences` when the feature is disabled may be a bug? Not entirely sure. cc @PabloDobarro If you want to know how to enable this feature now that it's in the experimental tab, follow these steps: 1. From the top of Blender select `Edit -> Preferences`. 2. From the tabs on the left, select `Interface`. 3. Enable the option `Developer Extras`. 4. From the tabs on the left select `Experimental`. 5. Enable `Switch Object Operator`.

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-14 11:45:56 +02:00

Added subscribers: @dfelinto, @brecht, @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-14 11:45:56 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-14 11:45:56 +02:00

Not exactly sure how to proceed here.

I think it would be possible to react more precisely in RNA callbacks for some of the experimental features (rna_userdef_XXX_update) - removing keymap entries e.g. should be possible.
Not quite sure if this is the way to go though?

CC @dfelinto
CC @brecht

Not exactly sure how to proceed here. I think it would be possible to react more precisely in RNA callbacks for some of the experimental features (`rna_userdef_XXX_update`) - removing keymap entries e.g. should be possible. Not quite sure if this is the way to go though? CC @dfelinto CC @brecht

Philipp Oeser changed title from ~~sculpting hotkey to switch meshes "d" does not work~~ to Experimental Features: some features still (parially) available (hotkeys, menu entries) even if feature is disabled (e.g. sculpting hotkey "D" to switch meshes)

2020-10-14 11:48:07 +02:00

Dalai Felinto commented

2020-10-14 15:13:12 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'

Pablo Dobarro was assigned by Dalai Felinto

2020-10-14 15:13:12 +02:00

Dalai Felinto commented

2020-10-14 15:13:12 +02:00

This shouldn't be an experimental feature due to a keyboard conflict I think. At least not for that long. If it is in the agenda for 2.91 the remaining issue should be addressed.

@PabloDobarro do you have an updated status on this?

This shouldn't be an experimental feature due to a keyboard conflict I think. At least not for that long. If it is in the agenda for 2.91 the remaining issue should be addressed. @PabloDobarro do you have an updated status on this?

Dalai Felinto changed title from ~~Experimental Features: some features still (parially) available (hotkeys, menu entries) even if feature is disabled (e.g. sculpting hotkey "D" to switch meshes)~~ to Experimental Features: Some features still (partially) available (hotkeys, menu entries) even if feature is disabled (e.g. sculpting hotkey "D" to switch meshes)

2020-10-14 15:13:40 +02:00

Dalai Felinto commented

2020-10-14 15:14:56 +02:00

(as for the RNA code, there is ways to make it work, but in this case I would focus more on getting this figured out than to over-engineer the - already abused - experimental system)