Enable pen tilt support by default #82877

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opened 2020-11-20 18:24:22 +01:00 by Pablo Dobarro · 22 comments
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This task keeps track of the tested devices in order to enable pen tilt support by default.
The reason this feature was committed as experimental was because it is not clear what devices and OS configurations are supported and what devices we are planning to support.
Right now the feature can be enabled in alpha builds as a experimental feature and used in some sculpt tools (draw sharp, scrape, clay strips...).

Working:

  • Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 - Ubuntu 20.04

  • Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 - Ubuntu 20.04

  • Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 - Manjaro 19 GNOME

  • Wacom Intuos Pro M - Ubuntu 20.04

  • Wacom Intuos Pro M - Pop OS 20.04

  • Wacom Intuos Pro M - Windows 11

  • XP-Pen Artist 13.3 Pro - Windows 10

  • XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro - Windows 10

Not working:

  • Wacom Mobilestudio Pro 16 - Windows 10 (y tilt axis is inverted)
  • Huion Kamvas 13 - Windows 10 (y tilt axis is inverted)
This task keeps track of the tested devices in order to enable pen tilt support by default. The reason this feature was committed as experimental was because it is not clear what devices and OS configurations are supported and what devices we are planning to support. Right now the feature can be enabled in alpha builds as a experimental feature and used in some sculpt tools (draw sharp, scrape, clay strips...). Working: - Wacom Cintiq Pro 16 - Ubuntu 20.04 - Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 - Ubuntu 20.04 - Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 - Manjaro 19 GNOME - Wacom Intuos Pro M - Ubuntu 20.04 - Wacom Intuos Pro M - Pop OS 20.04 - Wacom Intuos Pro M - Windows 11 - XP-Pen Artist 13.3 Pro - Windows 10 - XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro - Windows 10 Not working: - Wacom Mobilestudio Pro 16 - Windows 10 (y tilt axis is inverted) - Huion Kamvas 13 - Windows 10 (y tilt axis is inverted)
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Having list of supported configurations is surely useful, but design should also be giving description of what the system is for users. For example:

  • How sculpting mode utilizes the tilt support:
    Which tools have tilt support What behavior of a tool is controlled by tilt
    ** What are possible tool configurations
  • How to make Blender to use Tilt (if any of configuration is needed: are specific drivers needed, or is everything working "out-of-the-box").
Having list of supported configurations is surely useful, but design should also be giving description of what the system is for users. For example: * How sculpting mode utilizes the tilt support: **Which tools have tilt support** What behavior of a tool is controlled by tilt ** What are possible tool configurations * How to make Blender to use Tilt (if any of configuration is needed: are specific drivers needed, or is everything working "out-of-the-box").

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the Y axis is also inverted on Huion kamvas 13 on windows 10

the Y axis is also inverted on Huion kamvas 13 on windows 10

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GAOMON PD2200 seems to be completely non-functional. No matter the severity of the angle used or the brush, the stroke made is just the same as if it were done by a mouse.

GAOMON PD2200 seems to be completely non-functional. No matter the severity of the angle used or the brush, the stroke made is just the same as if it were done by a mouse.

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Hello friends,
I have a relatively similar problem with my Huion tablet.
Blender version 3.0
Huion kamvas pro 20 tablet with latest huion driver update.
System Windows 10, 64 Pro,
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz 4.00GHz

The support of the latter and random in sculpt mode, once the stylus is lifted from the screen the test pattern of the stylus disappears, I have to press the screen more times with the stylus so that the pattern remains on the screen . This problem only occurs from Blender version 3.0.

Hello friends, I have a relatively similar problem with my Huion tablet. Blender version 3.0 Huion kamvas pro 20 tablet with latest huion driver update. System Windows 10, 64 Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz 4.00GHz The support of the latter and random in sculpt mode, once the stylus is lifted from the screen the test pattern of the stylus disappears, I have to press the screen more times with the stylus so that the pattern remains on the screen . This problem only occurs from Blender version 3.0.

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I can provide feedback on the Windows 11 ink experience for the Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio, but just need clarity on which sculpt tools support tilt at the moment - it was not immediately obvious from the tool settings.

This device supports both Win8.1+ tilt and WinTab APIs and both work as expected with Krita for example, so it would give you some more data points for anything using the Microsoft/nTrig pen solution.

I can provide feedback on the Windows 11 ink experience for the Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio, but just need clarity on which sculpt tools support tilt at the moment - it was not immediately obvious from the tool settings. This device supports both Win8.1+ tilt and WinTab APIs and both work as expected with Krita for example, so it would give you some more data points for anything using the Microsoft/nTrig pen solution.

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Working:

XP-Pen Artist 13.3 Pro Pen Display on Windows 10
XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro Pen Display on Windows 10

Working: XP-Pen Artist 13.3 Pro Pen Display on Windows 10 XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro Pen Display on Windows 10

I also added the Wacom Intuous Pro M for Windows 11 as working.

I also added the Wacom Intuous Pro M for Windows 11 as working.

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Hi, registered to report that XP PEN deco pro MW -latest driver- has also the Y axis flipped. It would be nice to have a setting to invert axes in gui. Win 10 user, on blender 3.4 alpha

Hi, registered to report that XP PEN deco pro MW -latest driver- has also the Y axis flipped. It would be nice to have a setting to invert axes in gui. Win 10 user, on blender 3.4 alpha
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Maybe I can look into this task at some point soon.
I'd like to have this feature out of experimental so it can be more broadely tested and improved. If any device is not supported, a bug report should be submitted.

IMO this should not be enabled by default on any brush which makes it less controversial to get out of experimental.
I'll test the current compatibility on each brush to see if it all works like expected.

Maybe I can look into this task at some point soon. I'd like to have this feature out of experimental so it can be more broadely tested and improved. If any device is not supported, a bug report should be submitted. IMO this should not be enabled by default on any brush which makes it less controversial to get out of experimental. I'll test the current compatibility on each brush to see if it all works like expected.
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So far from what I've tested the feature works already great.

Some notes on what could be improved:

  • Remove setting from Clay Thumb brush (It's not supported)
  • Apply tilting effect on the brush cursor to give a live preview
  • Rename setting to "Tilt Direction" since it specifically affects the direction of the brush area plane
  • Add support to use negative values to tilt the plane in the opposite direction (Very useful for scrape and clay brushes)
So far from what I've tested the feature works already great. Some notes on what could be improved: - Remove setting from Clay Thumb brush (It's not supported) - Apply tilting effect on the brush cursor to give a live preview - Rename setting to "Tilt Direction" since it specifically affects the direction of the brush area plane - Add support to use negative values to tilt the plane in the opposite direction (Very useful for scrape and clay brushes)
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I am removing the Needs Triage label. This is under the general rule that Design and TODO tasks should not have a status.

If you believe this task is no longer relevant, feel free to close it.

I am removing the `Needs Triage` label. This is under the general rule that Design and TODO tasks should not have a status. If you believe this task is no longer relevant, feel free to close it.
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