Statusbar Shortcuts: The 3D View shortcuts are displayed in the Sequencer context when in Transform mode. #83307

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tintwotin · 2020-12-02T08:28:51+01:00

tintwotin commented

2020-12-02 08:28:51 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 457.30

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-25 08:34, hash: 0f45cab862
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
In Transform mode in the VSE the 3D View shortcuts are displayed:
{F9423557, size=full}

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Add a strip.
Drag it.
Notice the shortcuts in the statusbar. Ex. Rotate is displayed, which isn't possible for strips.

Keymaps Mirrored
All of the Sequencer Transform Modal Key Map is just mirrored from the 3D View - in the meaning that if you change anything, it'll also change in the 3D View.
{F9423581, size=full}

A note
Mouse Click shortcuts are also missing from the Statusbar, ex. Alt+Click toggle selects handles and Ctrl+click+mouse position selects left, right and linked in time(sync).
Shift + right click on strip to solo preview movie strip, is also missing.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 457.30 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-11-25 08:34, hash: `0f45cab862` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** In Transform mode in the VSE the 3D View shortcuts are displayed: {[F9423557](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9423557/image.png), size=full} **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Add a strip. - Drag it. - Notice the shortcuts in the statusbar. Ex. Rotate is displayed, which isn't possible for strips. **Keymaps Mirrored** All of the Sequencer Transform Modal Key Map is just mirrored from the 3D View - in the meaning that if you change anything, it'll also change in the 3D View. {[F9423581](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9423581/image.png), size=full} **A note** Mouse Click shortcuts are also missing from the Statusbar, ex. Alt+Click toggle selects handles and Ctrl+click+mouse position selects left, right and linked in time(sync). Shift + right click on strip to solo preview movie strip, is also missing.

tintwotin commented

2020-12-02 08:28:51 +01:00

Added subscriber: @tintwotin

Yevgeny Makarov commented

2020-12-02 09:24:22 +01:00

Added subscriber: @jenkm

Yevgeny Makarov commented

2020-12-02 09:24:22 +01:00

The problem is that everywhere you look there are wrong keyboard shortcuts.

Timeline: it shows for LMB either Select Keyframes or Change Frame (depending on how you move the mouse) and both are wrong.
UV Editor: it shows Change Frame for LMB.
Select the Annotation tool, and LMB-drag will show Move that is definitely not possible.
Links Cut tool (Nodes): LMB-drag - Box Select...
and so on, and so on...

The problem is that everywhere you look there are wrong keyboard shortcuts. Timeline: it shows for LMB either Select Keyframes or Change Frame (depending on how you move the mouse) and both are wrong. UV Editor: it shows Change Frame for LMB. Select the Annotation tool, and LMB-drag will show Move that is definitely not possible. Links Cut tool (Nodes): LMB-drag - Box Select... and so on, and so on...

tintwotin commented

2020-12-02 10:16:56 +01:00

Is there a bug report of this, or is it on a To Do list somewhere? This seems to have been included in several releases already, so maybe should be priotized higher, since Blender is still quite shortcut-key-centric, and it simply leaves a bad impression that pretty much all shortcut-key-hints in the status bar are wrong outside of the 3D View.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-12-07 21:09:11 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-12-07 21:09:11 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-12-07 21:09:11 +01:00

Thanks for the report, I can confirm.
In fact this is something that was overlooked.

Thanks for the report, I can confirm. In fact this is something that was overlooked.

blender-admin commented

2020-12-07 21:36:11 +01:00

This issue was referenced by c822f66bb8

This issue was referenced by c822f66bb83eaa0baf90ce662375c0b0aefb9dec

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-12-07 21:36:41 +01:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Germano Cavalcante closed this issue

2020-12-07 21:36:41 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante self-assigned this 2020-12-07 21:36:41 +01:00

tintwotin commented

2020-12-07 22:31:37 +01:00

@mano-wii Thank you for the patch which nicely removes the most misleading shortcut hints.

I noticed this comment: /* Allows the 'Expand to fit' effect to be enabled as a toogle. */ do you mean as a key toggle or even as a button toggle? So it does what this patch does(for ripple)? https://developer.blender.org/D9699

One thing to be aware of is that having shortcuts exposed in the header is not in consistency with anything else in Blender and is completely overlooked even by seasoned VSE users. In fact 99% of VSE users do not know about this Extend to fit function. So in the long run a better solution, where the transform keymap of the 3d view isn't used in the VSE, should be found, but instead a VSE centric transform keymap is exposed in the statusbar.

There are also several of other keyboard shortcuts not exposed in the statusbar like click + alt will toggle through various handle selection options, click + ctrl on strip will select all clips with the same in and out points, click+ctrl in empty space will select everything on that side of the playhead etc. Even a hidden feature like the 3d View Walk/Fly Navigation gets the shortcuts properly exposed in the statusbar, but the vse specific shortcuts doesn't.

@mano-wii Thank you for the patch which nicely removes the most misleading shortcut hints. I noticed this comment: `/* Allows the 'Expand to fit' effect to be enabled as a toogle. */` do you mean as a key toggle or even as a button toggle? So it does what this patch does(for ripple)? https://developer.blender.org/D9699 One thing to be aware of is that having shortcuts exposed in the header is not in consistency with anything else in Blender and is completely overlooked even by seasoned VSE users. In fact 99% of VSE users do not know about this Extend to fit function. So in the long run a better solution, where the transform keymap of the 3d view isn't used in the VSE, should be found, but instead a VSE centric transform keymap is exposed in the statusbar. There are also several of other keyboard shortcuts not exposed in the statusbar like click + alt will toggle through various handle selection options, click + ctrl on strip will select all clips with the same in and out points, click+ctrl in empty space will select everything on that side of the playhead etc. Even a hidden feature like the 3d View Walk/Fly Navigation gets the shortcuts properly exposed in the statusbar, but the vse specific shortcuts doesn't.

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Statusbar Shortcuts: The 3D View shortcuts are displayed in the Sequencer context when in Transform mode. #83307