Default Keymap Update: Support Fallback tools with RMB Selection #83690

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Campbell Barton · 2020-12-12T04:56:14+01:00

Campbell Barton commented

2020-12-12 04:56:14 +01:00

The fallback tool is the functionality that allows the non-active selection tools to be accessible when LMB-Select is enabled.

Currently this does nothing when RMB select is enabled.

Proposal

For RMB-Select, RMB should activate the fallback tool.

Open Topics

The "Active tool" fallback tool doesn't make sense (as it's already accessed via LMB) in this case.

Possible solutions:

We could remove the option in this case.
Or this item could ignore the tool (keeping the current behavior of always tweaking, ignoring the current selection tool).

The fallback tool is the functionality that allows the non-active selection tools to be accessible when LMB-Select is enabled. Currently this does nothing when RMB select is enabled. ### Proposal For RMB-Select, RMB should activate the fallback tool. ### Open Topics - The "Active tool" fallback tool doesn't make sense (as it's already accessed via LMB) in this case. ``` Possible solutions: ``` - We could remove the option in this case. - Or this item could ignore the tool (keeping the current behavior of always tweaking, ignoring the current selection tool).

Campbell Barton commented

2020-12-12 04:56:14 +01:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Julien Kaspar commented

2020-12-14 16:52:03 +01:00

Added subscriber: @JulienKaspar

Julien Kaspar commented

2020-12-14 16:52:03 +01:00

After some more discussion this will need to get a more fully fleshed out design task for this. If the Fallback Tools get added to the RCS keymap by mapping them to RMB then this opens quite a few UI questions.
The "Active Tool" option would ideally be disabled or removed.
Tools that previously didn't have Fallback Actions in their UI since LMB was already fully used would now need them (Cursor Tool, Tweak Tool & Annotate Tool).
I would exclude most selection tools from having this feature since these Tools are not really targeted towards RCS users if the Fallback Actions are fully supported.

It is also still very important that the traditional modal operator workflow is not hurt by this inclusion. Right now if RCS users don't want to use the tool they can make sure the Cursor Tool is active, hide the Toolbar and don't have to interact with them anymore.
If the Cursor Tool has Fallback Actions then this is another step that those users need to be aware of if they open someone else's file.
This could be solved with a preference to override those options on file load but that should be further discussed.

After some more discussion this will need to get a more fully fleshed out design task for this. If the Fallback Tools get added to the RCS keymap by mapping them to RMB then this opens quite a few UI questions. The "Active Tool" option would ideally be disabled or removed. Tools that previously didn't have Fallback Actions in their UI since LMB was already fully used would now need them (Cursor Tool, Tweak Tool & Annotate Tool). I would exclude most selection tools from having this feature since these Tools are not really targeted towards RCS users if the Fallback Actions are fully supported. It is also still very important that the traditional modal operator workflow is not hurt by this inclusion. Right now if RCS users don't want to use the tool they can make sure the Cursor Tool is active, hide the Toolbar and don't have to interact with them anymore. If the Cursor Tool has Fallback Actions then this is another step that those users need to be aware of if they open someone else's file. This could be solved with a preference to override those options on file load but that should be further discussed.

RedMser commented

2020-12-20 00:01:25 +01:00

Added subscriber: @RedMser

Pablo Vazquez commented

2021-02-03 22:00:36 +01:00

Added subscriber: @pablovazquez

blender-admin commented

2021-09-21 09:55:43 +02:00

This issue was referenced by c9d9bfa84a

This issue was referenced by c9d9bfa84ad5cb985e3feccffa702b2f3cc2adf8

Campbell Barton commented

2021-09-21 10:25:53 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Resolved'

Campbell Barton closed this issue

2021-09-21 10:25:53 +02:00

Campbell Barton self-assigned this 2021-09-21 10:25:53 +02:00

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Default Keymap Update: Support Fallback tools with RMB Selection #83690

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