EEVEE screen space reflections dont mix properly #85720

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I did must have done it · 2021-02-17T04:33:53+01:00

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 04:33:53 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: win 10
Graphics card: RX 6800

Blender Version
Broken: 2.93
Worked: 2.92
Caused by 000a340afa

Short description of error

screen space reflections dont mix properly in the final composite, especially when mixing with ambient occlusion

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
open in 2.92 and then 2.93 see the difference file i attached untitled.blend

**System Information** Operating system: win 10 Graphics card: RX 6800 **Blender Version** Broken: 2.93 Worked: 2.92 Caused by 000a340afa **Short description of error** screen space reflections dont mix properly in the final composite, especially when mixing with ambient occlusion **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** open in 2.92 and then 2.93 see the difference file i attached [untitled.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9811394/untitled.blend) ![h.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9813265/h.png) ![j.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9813264/j.png)

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 04:33:53 +01:00

Added subscriber: @leonardos

blender-admin commented

2021-02-17 04:33:53 +01:00

#85866 was marked as duplicate of this issue

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 04:45:32 +01:00

Oh, forgot to mention. It has to do with screen space refraction for sure and possibly with irradiance as well.

Kenzie commented

2021-02-17 07:06:19 +01:00

Added subscriber: @KenzieMac130

Kenzie commented

2021-02-17 07:06:19 +01:00

Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you!

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 07:51:40 +01:00

In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote:
Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you!

Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files.

> In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote: > Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you! Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files.

Kenzie commented

2021-02-17 08:10:50 +01:00

In #85720#1113869, @leonardos wrote:

In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote:
Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you!

Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files.

We appreciate blurring it before posting it and while that does make it pass late daytime tv news standards that doesn't necessarily make it safe for work or not a comfort issue for other developers. If you are having trouble replicating it: try isolating the pieces of the mesh that appear to recieve an issue and deleting unnecessary geometry and simplifying materials. Usually developers work on small pieces of production files like this.

> In #85720#1113869, @leonardos wrote: >> In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote: >> Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you! > > Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files. We appreciate blurring it before posting it and while that does make it pass late daytime tv news standards that doesn't necessarily make it safe for work or not a comfort issue for other developers. If you are having trouble replicating it: try isolating the pieces of the mesh that appear to recieve an issue and deleting unnecessary geometry and simplifying materials. Usually developers work on small pieces of production files like this.

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 08:19:43 +01:00

In #85720#1113887, @KenzieMac130 wrote:

In #85720#1113869, @leonardos wrote:

In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote:
Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you!

Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files.

Yes I have done that already, I have uplodat the file is called untilted.blend you can download it now.

We appreciate blurring it before posting it and while that does make it pass late daytime tv news standards that doesn't necessarily make it safe for work or not a comfort issue for other developers. If you are having trouble replicating it: try isolating the pieces of the mesh that appear to recieve an issue and deleting unnecessary geometry and simplifying materials. Usually developers work on small pieces of production files like this.

> In #85720#1113887, @KenzieMac130 wrote: >> In #85720#1113869, @leonardos wrote: >>> In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote: >>> Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you! >> >> Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files. > Yes I have done that already, I have uplodat the file is called untilted.blend you can download it now. > We appreciate blurring it before posting it and while that does make it pass late daytime tv news standards that doesn't necessarily make it safe for work or not a comfort issue for other developers. If you are having trouble replicating it: try isolating the pieces of the mesh that appear to recieve an issue and deleting unnecessary geometry and simplifying materials. Usually developers work on small pieces of production files like this.

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 08:44:21 +01:00

In #85720#1113887, @KenzieMac130 wrote:

In #85720#1113869, @leonardos wrote:

In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote:
Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you!

Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files.

We appreciate blurring it before posting it and while that does make it pass late daytime tv news standards that doesn't necessarily make it safe for work or not a comfort issue for other developers. If you are having trouble replicating it: try isolating the pieces of the mesh that appear to recieve an issue and deleting unnecessary geometry and simplifying materials. Usually developers work on small pieces of production files like this.

YEs while its safe for the news it is safe for here like you said. Some people watch news if they work late shift and like you said this fits there. All is good.

> In #85720#1113887, @KenzieMac130 wrote: >> In #85720#1113869, @leonardos wrote: >>> In #85720#1113854, @KenzieMac130 wrote: >>> Hello! Can you isolate this issue to a simple test blend file you can upload with replicatable settings to help developers a bit more? It's a little difficult to just work on an image alone. Also no disrespect against your artwork but perhaps you can make the demo file more SFW? I'm not too bothered by it but I can imagine other developers who would work on this regression might have issues with their comfort level. Thank you! >> >> Hello I assure my art-work is very safe for work I have put blur where its not safe to look. I have tried to replicate the issue with simple geometry but alas it is not very obvious. So here I have isolated the area of the mesh from my screenshot where the issue is most obvious and uploadet that files. > > We appreciate blurring it before posting it and while that does make it pass late daytime tv news standards that doesn't necessarily make it safe for work or not a comfort issue for other developers. If you are having trouble replicating it: try isolating the pieces of the mesh that appear to recieve an issue and deleting unnecessary geometry and simplifying materials. Usually developers work on small pieces of production files like this. YEs while its safe for the news it is safe for here like you said. Some people watch news if they work late shift and like you said this fits there. All is good.

Kenzie commented

2021-02-17 19:42:02 +01:00

YEs while its safe for the news it is safe for here like you said. Some people watch news if they work late shift and like you said this fits there. All is good.

Unfortunately that's not really how it works, you can't just send complete strangers nudity and blur it out and call it suitable for all audiences. You have to be more mindful of your audience and how they will respond. Others in the art community tend to follow this as well. Please don't argue on this point of common courtesy. I would like to see your problem addressed but you are making it less and less likely to be addressed by developers.

> YEs while its safe for the news it is safe for here like you said. Some people watch news if they work late shift and like you said this fits there. All is good. Unfortunately that's not really how it works, you can't just send complete strangers nudity and blur it out and call it suitable for all audiences. You have to be more mindful of your audience and how they will respond. Others in the art community tend to follow this as well. Please don't argue on this point of common courtesy. I would like to see your problem addressed but you are making it less and less likely to be addressed by developers.

Kenzie commented

2021-02-17 20:39:00 +01:00

Removed subscriber: @KenzieMac130

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 21:07:45 +01:00

Added subscriber: @KenzieMac130

I did must have done it commented

2021-02-17 21:07:45 +01:00

In #85720#1114446, @KenzieMac130 wrote:

YEs while its safe for the news it is safe for here like you said. Some people watch news if they work late shift and like you said this fits there. All is good.

Unfortunately that's not really how it works, you can't just send complete strangers nudity and blur it out and call it suitable for all audiences. You have to be more mindful of your audience and how they will respond. Others in the art community tend to follow this as well. Please don't argue on this point of common courtesy. I would like to see your problem addressed but you are making it less and less likely to be addressed by developers.

Here I removed the images. Is now everything happy and without tear?

> In #85720#1114446, @KenzieMac130 wrote: >> YEs while its safe for the news it is safe for here like you said. Some people watch news if they work late shift and like you said this fits there. All is good. > > Unfortunately that's not really how it works, you can't just send complete strangers nudity and blur it out and call it suitable for all audiences. You have to be more mindful of your audience and how they will respond. Others in the art community tend to follow this as well. Please don't argue on this point of common courtesy. I would like to see your problem addressed but you are making it less and less likely to be addressed by developers. Here I removed the images. Is now everything happy and without tear?

I did must have done it changed title from ~~EEVEE 2.92 vs 2.93 render discrepancy!~~ to EEVEE screen space reflections dont mix properly

2021-02-17 21:32:47 +01:00

Evan Wilson commented

2021-02-18 02:03:01 +01:00

Added subscriber: @EAW

Evan Wilson commented

2021-02-18 02:03:01 +01:00

The glossy direct pass has incredibly high values in 2.93, in comparison to 2.92.

Some of the values are 500+. I’ll post comparisons in the morning. My first guess is that this change occurred with the EEVEE closure refactoring.

The glossy direct pass has incredibly high values in 2.93, in comparison to 2.92. Some of the values are 500+. I’ll post comparisons in the morning. My first guess is that this change occurred with the EEVEE closure refactoring.

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-02-18 14:29:13 +01:00

Added subscribers: @fclem, @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-02-18 14:29:13 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-02-18 14:29:13 +01:00

Can confirm, the behavior changed with 000a340afa

CC @fclem

Can confirm, the behavior changed with 000a340afa CC @fclem

Evan Wilson commented

2021-02-20 19:34:12 +01:00

GlossDir 2.93

GlossDir 2.92

GlossCol 2.93

GlossCol 2.92

![GlossDir_2.93.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9822391/GlossDir_2.93.png) GlossDir 2.93 ![GlossDir_2.92.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9822394/GlossDir_2.92.png) GlossDir 2.92 ![GlossCol_2.93.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9822396/GlossCol_2.93.png) GlossCol 2.93 ![GlossCol_2.92.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9822398/GlossCol_2.92.png) GlossCol 2.92

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-02-22 11:22:10 +01:00

Added subscriber: @imdjs

blender-admin commented

2021-02-22 16:59:18 +01:00

This issue was referenced by cd1a083984

This issue was referenced by cd1a08398437bb6be4ea82bb553ef3e8dcaee7ab

Clément Foucault commented

2021-02-22 17:34:31 +01:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Clément Foucault closed this issue

2021-02-22 17:34:31 +01:00

Clément Foucault self-assigned this 2021-02-22 17:34:31 +01:00

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EEVEE screen space reflections dont mix properly #85720