Bug? Inconsistency? Viewport roll use horizontal move instead angle #89883

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Vyacheslav Kobozev · 2021-07-16T01:17:32+02:00

2021-07-16 01:17:32 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 375.70

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.93.1, branch: master, commit date: 2021-06-22 05:57, hash: 1b8d33b18c

Short description of error
It says «Angle». Also, it looks like new canvas roll in Grease Pencil Tool work properly. It is strange, that basic roll don`t
Angle and cursor rotation already works with regular rotation, stencil rotation, brush rotation.

2021-07-16_02-03-16.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 375.70 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.93.1, branch: master, commit date: 2021-06-22 05:57, hash: `1b8d33b18c` **Short description of error** It says «Angle». Also, it looks like new canvas roll in Grease Pencil Tool work properly. It is strange, that basic roll don`t Angle and cursor rotation already works with regular rotation, stencil rotation, brush rotation. ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10225518/изображение.png) [2021-07-16_02-03-16.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10225520/2021-07-16_02-03-16.mp4)

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2021-07-16 01:17:32 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Vyach

Vyacheslav Kobozev changed title from ~~Bug? Viewport roll use horizontal move instead angle~~ to Bug? Inconsistency? Viewport roll use horizontal move instead angle

2021-07-16 01:17:56 +02:00

Paul Kotelevets commented

2021-07-16 01:34:46 +02:00

Added subscriber: @1D_Inc

Paul Kotelevets commented

2021-07-16 01:34:46 +02:00

Yes, it is hard to control precise viewport angle via horizontal movement.

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-07-16 12:25:54 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PratikPB2123

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-08-13 15:39:21 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser self-assigned this 2021-08-13 15:39:21 +02:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-08-13 15:39:21 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-08-13 15:39:21 +02:00

I may add that (at least for me) there is no way to cancel out of this modal operator.

This is however not a bug, it has just been implemented in that (limited) way.
Since this is quite a nice quality of life improvement, I will keep this as a TODO and put on my desk (might take a while though -- not super high prio atm.)

I may add that (at least for me) there is no way to cancel out of this modal operator. This is however not a bug, it has just been implemented in that (limited) way. Since this is quite a nice quality of life improvement, I will keep this as a TODO and put on my desk (might take a while though -- not super high prio atm.)

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2021-08-13 16:46:26 +02:00

In #89883#1206151, @lichtwerk wrote:
I will keep this as a TODO and put on my desk (might take a while though -- not super high prio atm.)

Okay, thanks for understanding and participation!

> In #89883#1206151, @lichtwerk wrote: > I will keep this as a TODO and put on my desk (might take a while though -- not super high prio atm.) Okay, thanks for understanding and participation!

Paul Kotelevets commented

2021-08-13 20:29:11 +02:00

Yes, thank you!

Paul Kotelevets commented

2021-08-13 20:33:21 +02:00

In #89883#1206151, @lichtwerk wrote:

This is however not a bug, it has just been implemented in that (limited) way.

In our company we call such a cases "a workflow issues" - they are not a bugs, because of intended design, but a design that is questionable and works not really well, so it does not pass workflow tests properly.
Sometimes workflow issues can be as deadly as bugs, limiting the ability to use a program, but they are always harder to handle because requires a way more complicated provement - which sometimes requires a very deep context, for example, in system design - especially for a wide range of workflows.

This is equally fair both for addons and core development.

>> In #89883#1206151, @lichtwerk wrote: > >> This is however not a bug, it has just been implemented in that (limited) way. In our company we call such a cases "a workflow issues" - they are not a bugs, because of intended design, but a design that is questionable and works not really well, so it does not pass workflow tests properly. Sometimes workflow issues can be as deadly as bugs, limiting the ability to use a program, but they are always harder to handle because requires a way more complicated provement - which sometimes requires a very deep context, for example, in system design - especially for a wide range of workflows. This is equally fair both for addons and core development.

blender-admin commented

2021-09-20 18:11:52 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 69893ef27c

This issue was referenced by 69893ef27c9188916648adb84d5867f2d39c780e

blender-admin commented

2021-09-27 11:54:25 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 5d5504d8a4

This issue was referenced by 5d5504d8a4b6ba5b56154ac50fea60b9c5576572

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-09-27 11:57:20 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Philipp Oeser closed this issue

2021-09-27 11:57:20 +02:00

Paul Kotelevets commented

2021-10-06 03:42:07 +02:00

Thank you!

Turntable navigation + Proper Viewport Roll system allow to achieve flexibility level of a Trackball navigation system, but without the immediate loss of horizon level inherent in Trackball navigation.

Thank you! Turntable navigation + Proper Viewport Roll system allow to achieve flexibility level of a Trackball navigation system, but without the immediate loss of horizon level inherent in Trackball navigation.

Paul Kotelevets commented

2021-10-07 19:01:15 +02:00

Interesting funny video about turntable + roll navigation system)

https://twitter.com/shima2cgstudio/status/1446098157398487042

Interesting funny video about turntable + roll navigation system) https://twitter.com/shima2cgstudio/status/1446098157398487042

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Bug? Inconsistency? Viewport roll use horizontal move instead angle #89883