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opened 2021-08-30 16:55:44 +02:00 by Haig Petrus · 23 comments
Haig Petrus commented 2021-08-30 16:55:44 +02:00
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Operating system: Linux-5.13.13-arch1-1-x86_64-with-glibc2.33 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 470.63.01

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Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-08-29 21:39, hash: b42354672e
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
When playing back animation anywhere in Blender with Audio Sync turned on, either immediately or after a few playbacks, playback goes only one frame forward and holds there. Also, when it does play back, viewport is very choppy compared to earlier incarnations of 3.0.0 alpha.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  1. Place an audio file on the sequencer timeline (.flac will do, but even any video file with audio will do)
  2. Animate the default cube and camera for at least 120 frames
  3. Change Playback>Sync to 'Sync to Audio' with Scrubbing turned on
  4. Playback and scrub through the timeline as you would during animation production
  5. Eventually, playback will hold after playing one frame

Note: Problem does not exist in other Sync modes, in my experience. Also, Saving the file and restarting Blender mostly resets the issue, but it comes back eventually.

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-5.13.13-arch1-1-x86_64-with-glibc2.33 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 470.63.01 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-08-29 21:39, hash: `b42354672e` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** When playing back animation anywhere in Blender with Audio Sync turned on, either immediately or after a few playbacks, playback goes only one frame forward and holds there. Also, when it does play back, viewport is very choppy compared to earlier incarnations of 3.0.0 alpha. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1) Place an audio file on the sequencer timeline (.flac will do, but even any video file with audio will do) 2) Animate the default cube and camera for at least 120 frames 3) Change Playback>Sync to 'Sync to Audio' with Scrubbing turned on 4) Playback and scrub through the timeline as you would during animation production 5) Eventually, playback will hold after playing one frame Note: Problem does not exist in other Sync modes, in my experience. Also, Saving the file and restarting Blender mostly resets the issue, but it comes back eventually.
Haig Petrus commented 2021-08-30 16:55:44 +02:00
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Philipp Oeser commented 2021-08-30 17:16:47 +02:00
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Added subscribers: @neXyon, @lichtwerk

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Philipp Oeser commented 2021-08-30 17:16:47 +02:00
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'
Philipp Oeser commented 2021-08-30 17:16:47 +02:00
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Is this only the case for PulseAudio?

Preferences > System > Sound > Audio Device

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Is this only the case for PulseAudio? `Preferences` > `System` > `Sound` > `Audio Device` CC @neXyon
Haig Petrus commented 2021-08-30 17:50:10 +02:00
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I just switched to OpenAL and it seems to run smoothly, at the moment. Time will tell during production if this provides a workaround, for now.

If this is the case, why would PulseAudio be the culprit? It appears to be quite standard on Linux systems. And if Pulse is going to cause problems, which of the other options is the gold star standard?

I just switched to OpenAL and it seems to run smoothly, at the moment. Time will tell during production if this provides a workaround, for now. If this is the case, why would PulseAudio be the culprit? It appears to be quite standard on Linux systems. And if Pulse is going to cause problems, which of the other options is the gold star standard?
Philipp Oeser commented 2021-08-30 18:29:28 +02:00
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Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'
Philipp Oeser commented 2021-08-30 18:29:28 +02:00
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There have been issues with PulseAudio, see e.g. #89045 (VSE playback periodically refuses to work (Pulseaudio, OpenAL seems fine))
This should be fixed though, see 19d19970e4

@neXyon : ideas?

There have been issues with PulseAudio, see e.g. #89045 (VSE playback periodically refuses to work (Pulseaudio, OpenAL seems fine)) This should be fixed though, see 19d19970e4 @neXyon : ideas?
Joerg Mueller self-assigned this 2021-08-30 21:11:27 +02:00
Joerg Mueller commented 2021-08-30 21:11:27 +02:00
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Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'
Joerg Mueller commented 2021-08-30 21:11:27 +02:00
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Yeah, seems like this is not completely fixed, i.e. there are multiple bugs at play that trigger sometimes on some systems - making them hard to find. I do have this on my list, just need to get the time to work on it...

@HaigPetrus: Previously, the default was OpenAL so it's fine, there are just a few issues when it comes to 3D audio, so if you don't use that, OpenAL works fine for now. Pulseaudio was recently added and as such has some infancy issues. Since I have problems reproducing the issues however, it would be helpful if people like you who experience the problems can help by testing experimental builds once available.

Yeah, seems like this is not completely fixed, i.e. there are multiple bugs at play that trigger sometimes on some systems - making them hard to find. I do have this on my list, just need to get the time to work on it... @HaigPetrus: Previously, the default was OpenAL so it's fine, there are just a few issues when it comes to 3D audio, so if you don't use that, OpenAL works fine for now. Pulseaudio was recently added and as such has some infancy issues. Since I have problems reproducing the issues however, it would be helpful if people like you who experience the problems can help by testing experimental builds once available.
Haig Petrus commented 2021-08-31 02:54:37 +02:00
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@neXyon : Interesting story behind this. PulseAudio is a good idea to switch to for default, so I'd be happy to test at every step of the way. Bring in on.

Scrubbing with Audio Sync is essential for our projects from storyboard/animatic to lip sync to final animation to post, so this is of great interest to me.

@neXyon : Interesting story behind this. PulseAudio is a good idea to switch to for default, so I'd be happy to test at every step of the way. Bring in on. Scrubbing with Audio Sync is essential for our projects from storyboard/animatic to lip sync to final animation to post, so this is of great interest to me.
blender-admin commented 2021-09-19 22:37:13 +02:00
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This issue was referenced by 93c7e83b2a

This issue was referenced by 93c7e83b2aca1ad3bc674af2a6c522be7aba2c57
blender-admin commented 2021-09-19 22:37:13 +02:00
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This issue was referenced by 8324ac8457

This issue was referenced by 8324ac84577cd96fe578dd905cc1eced823e2fef
Joerg Mueller commented 2021-09-19 23:04:21 +02:00
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Here is a build of D12564, a patch that hopefully deals with this bug. Please try if you can still reproduce the problem with it! https://builder.blender.org/download/patch/D12564/

Here is a build of [D12564](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D12564), a patch that hopefully deals with this bug. Please try if you can still reproduce the problem with it! https://builder.blender.org/download/patch/D12564/
Haig Petrus commented 2021-09-20 19:55:32 +02:00
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@neXyon: This appears to be working with PulseAudio, now. I have to do a much deeper torture test to make sure, but it looks very promising, so far. I can do crazy scrubbing and it seems to be in sync and not holding on a frame. Also, playback is smooth and not choppy anymore. I have a much more complex project that I will test this on and will let you know how that goes. Nonetheless, I think this might have done it.

@neXyon: This appears to be working with PulseAudio, now. I have to do a much deeper torture test to make sure, but it looks very promising, so far. I can do crazy scrubbing and it seems to be in sync and not holding on a frame. Also, playback is smooth and not choppy anymore. I have a much more complex project that I will test this on and will let you know how that goes. Nonetheless, I think this might have done it.
Joerg Mueller commented 2021-09-20 22:44:00 +02:00
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Great! Let me know when you did the deeper torture test, then I'll commit this patch to master!

Great! Let me know when you did the deeper torture test, then I'll commit this patch to master!
Christoffer Holmstedt commented 2021-09-21 07:27:12 +02:00
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Christoffer Holmstedt commented 2021-09-21 07:27:12 +02:00
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In #91057#1222044, @neXyon wrote:
Here is a build of D12546, a patch that hopefully deals with this bug. Please try if you can still reproduce the problem with it! https://builder.blender.org/download/patch/D12564/

Differential reference should be D12564. Linking for future reference.

> In #91057#1222044, @neXyon wrote: > Here is a build of [D12546](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D12546), a patch that hopefully deals with this bug. Please try if you can still reproduce the problem with it! https://builder.blender.org/download/patch/D12564/ Differential reference should be [D12564](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D12564). Linking for future reference.
Haig Petrus commented 2021-09-21 20:05:17 +02:00
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Torture test appears to be positive. I think this should be merged to master, if the code passes muster. Certainly, thereafter, a lot more production will be done and we'll see how it holds up over the days and weeks ahead. Right now, it appears to work as well as the older OpenAL, in terms of reliability and performance.

Let me know if there's any sort of PulseAudio lmessaging that you'd like me to log, if you feel the need.

Torture test appears to be positive. I think this should be merged to master, if the code passes muster. Certainly, thereafter, a lot more production will be done and we'll see how it holds up over the days and weeks ahead. Right now, it appears to work as well as the older OpenAL, in terms of reliability and performance. Let me know if there's any sort of PulseAudio lmessaging that you'd like me to log, if you feel the need.
Joerg Mueller commented 2021-09-21 22:33:54 +02:00
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Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'
Joerg Mueller commented 2021-09-21 22:36:31 +02:00
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Great, I just pushed the fix to master, thanks for checking!

Great, I just pushed the fix to master, thanks for checking!
Vas commented 2021-11-18 17:02:05 +01:00
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Vas commented 2021-11-18 17:02:05 +01:00
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this issue seems a bit simillar to this current one #91352

this issue seems a bit simillar to this current one #91352
Shaunak S commented 2023-05-08 14:07:13 +02:00
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Operating system: Wndows 10 pro
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 3050 Ti

Audio sync issue.
I did this
Change Playback>Sync to 'Sync to Audio' with Scrubbing turned on

But sync is still not working.

Operating system: Wndows 10 pro Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 3050 Ti Audio sync issue. I did this Change Playback>Sync to 'Sync to Audio' with Scrubbing turned on But sync is still not working.
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