Drivers Editor : Frame indicator/controller & cursor problem #91157

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Terry Edhouse · 2021-09-03T12:06:50+02:00

Terry Edhouse commented

2021-09-03 12:06:50 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Linux-4.15.0-142-generic-x86_64-with-debian-stretch-sid 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 465.24.02

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.83.17, branch: master, commit date: 2021-08-10 09:03, hash: 430262b133
Worked: Partially in 2.93.4

Short description of error
In the Drivers Editor moving the frame indicator/controller does not change the frame but just moves the cursor

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
[Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue]
[Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]

1 - Start blender 2.83.17

2 - Load Factory settings

3 - Open the Drivers editor

4 - Drag the frame indicator/controller - the indicator/controller does not move, but the vertical cursor lines do.

If you have a Timeline Editor open as well, moving it's frame indicator/controller causes the one in the Drivers Editor to move in sync. This also highlights the lack of a vertical line directly under the frame indicator/controller as you have in the Timeline, Graph, Dopesheet (etc) Editors.

If when performing step 4 you also drag the mouse down and across the cursor lines move with the mouse pointer. If you go to the N sidebar and untick 'Show Cursor' only the horizontal cursor line disappears.

As an aside, I can find no way to move the cursor apart from that describe in step 4, other than by changing the Cursor X & Y values in the N sidebar.

Note that in version 2.93.4 dragging the frame indicator/controller does work as expected but there is still no vertical line directly underneath it and the issue with the cursor is the same.

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-4.15.0-142-generic-x86_64-with-debian-stretch-sid 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 465.24.02 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.83.17, branch: master, commit date: 2021-08-10 09:03, hash: `430262b133` Worked: Partially in 2.93.4 **Short description of error** In the Drivers Editor moving the frame indicator/controller does not change the frame but just moves the cursor **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** [Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue] [Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)] 1 - Start blender 2.83.17 2 - Load Factory settings 3 - Open the Drivers editor 4 - Drag the frame indicator/controller - the indicator/controller does not move, but the vertical cursor lines do. If you have a Timeline Editor open as well, moving it's frame indicator/controller causes the one in the Drivers Editor to move in sync. This also highlights the lack of a vertical line directly under the frame indicator/controller as you have in the Timeline, Graph, Dopesheet (etc) Editors. If when performing step 4 you also drag the mouse down and across the cursor lines move with the mouse pointer. If you go to the N sidebar and untick 'Show Cursor' only the horizontal cursor line disappears. As an aside, I can find no way to move the cursor apart from that describe in step 4, other than by changing the Cursor X & Y values in the N sidebar. Note that in version 2.93.4 dragging the frame indicator/controller does work as expected but there is still no vertical line directly underneath it and the issue with the cursor is the same.

Terry Edhouse commented

2021-09-03 12:06:50 +02:00

Added subscriber: @MrTez

Richard Antalik commented

2021-09-03 14:03:55 +02:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Richard Antalik commented

2021-09-03 14:03:55 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Richard Antalik closed this issue

2021-09-03 14:03:55 +02:00

Richard Antalik commented

2021-09-03 14:03:55 +02:00

Blender 2.83 LTS recveives only critical patches (like crashes and similar). This seems to be expected behavior in 2.93 version as cursor X position is not tied to current frame like in graph editor.

Cursor position can be also moved with mouse by holding Shift and dragging with RMB pressed.

Blender 2.83 LTS recveives only critical patches (like crashes and similar). This seems to be expected behavior in 2.93 version as cursor X position is not tied to current frame like in graph editor. Cursor position can be also moved with mouse by holding Shift and dragging with RMB pressed.

Terry Edhouse commented

2021-09-03 14:53:13 +02:00

Hi, while the Cursor X position isn't tied to the current frame surely there should be another vertical line directly under the frame indicator as there is on the Graph Editor and others which allow you to change the current frame.

Also, the fact that you cannot change the current frame in 2.83 LTS warrants a fix.

Hi, while the Cursor X position isn't tied to the current frame surely there should be another vertical line directly under the frame indicator as there is on the Graph Editor and others which allow you to change the current frame. Also, the fact that you cannot change the current frame in 2.83 LTS warrants a fix.

Richard Antalik commented

2021-09-03 15:15:20 +02:00

I think more realistic would be to tie cursor to current frame as it is in other editors. Not quite sure why this wasn't done. Perhaps this is because of design consideration like https://developer.blender.org/T46004

I think this is either feature request or needs design review or both. But I will ask UI team to double check this.

I think more realistic would be to tie cursor to current frame as it is in other editors. Not quite sure why this wasn't done. Perhaps this is because of design consideration like https://developer.blender.org/T46004 I think this is either feature request or needs design review or both. But I will ask UI team to double check this.

blender-admin commented

2021-09-03 15:51:38 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 6f29801f1b

This issue was referenced by 6f29801f1b693c5526bdb41d0c2bcf89caf5a05b

blender-admin commented

2021-09-03 16:04:01 +02:00

This issue was referenced by b3431a8846

This issue was referenced by b3431a88465db2433b46e1f6426c801125d0047d

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-09-03 16:20:56 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-09-03 16:20:56 +02:00

If you go to the N sidebar and untick 'Show Cursor' only the horizontal cursor line disappears.

This is a bug I think, see D12391: Fix Drivers Editor not hiding vertical part of cursor

As for the other issue: I think the whole Editor should not show frame scrubbing whatsoever (as it was in 2.79)
The X axis here is the output of the driver, mixing this with time(frame) is probably more confusing than it has benefits.
D12392: Fix Drivers Editor showing playhead on the X Axis removes it entirely.
This way you only have the cursor, independent of time and "clean" axis representing the driver output in X and the final output in Y.

> If you go to the N sidebar and untick 'Show Cursor' only the horizontal cursor line disappears. This is a bug I think, see [D12391: Fix Drivers Editor not hiding vertical part of cursor](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D12391) As for the other issue: I think the whole Editor should not show frame scrubbing whatsoever (as it was in 2.79) The X axis here is the output of the driver, mixing this with time(frame) is probably more confusing than it has benefits. [D12392: Fix Drivers Editor showing playhead on the X Axis](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D12392) removes it entirely. This way you only have the cursor, independent of time and "clean" axis representing the driver output in X and the final output in Y.

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Drivers Editor : Frame indicator/controller & cursor problem #91157