VSE UI: Change Path/Files is over exposed #91350

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opened 2021-09-12 12:33:04 +02:00 by tintwotin · 15 comments

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 462.59

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Broken: version: 2.93.0, branch: master, commit date: 2021-06-02 11:21, hash: 84da05a8b8
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Change Path/Files is exposed in four places.
{F10401818,size=full}
As this function is only working(afaik) on the active strip(why Files in plural?), it should only be exposed in the strip sidebar. See: #91306 If the function is basically the same as changing the path to the source file then the folder button next to the path should be enough.
Also, having it as a secret pop-up menu, shortcut key "C", is inconsistent with anything in Blender and this should be removed.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 462.59 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.93.0, branch: master, commit date: 2021-06-02 11:21, hash: `84da05a8b8` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Change Path/Files is exposed in four places. {[F10401818](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10401818/image.png),size=full} As this function is only working(afaik) on the active strip(why Files in plural?), it should only be exposed in the strip sidebar. See: #91306 If the function is basically the same as changing the path to the source file then the folder button next to the path should be enough. Also, having it as a secret pop-up menu, shortcut key "C", is inconsistent with anything in Blender and this should be removed.
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@Sergey I tagged you since you brought back the "C" menu, and therefore I was wondering what your take would be on this issue?

@Sergey I tagged you since you brought back the "C" menu, and therefore I was wondering what your take would be on this issue?

AFAIR the C shortcut was added to speedup a repetitive work.
A way of how to make it more clear what the file browser icon is doing, and how exactly the Change Data/Files different from it I am not sure yet what the best solution. At least we need to add a description, and unify naming of the same operation in the interface.

AFAIR the C shortcut was added to speedup a repetitive work. A way of how to make it more clear what the file browser icon is doing, and how exactly the `Change Data/Files` different from it I am not sure yet what the best solution. At least we need to add a description, and unify naming of the same operation in the interface.

It looks like the "Change Data/Files" button in the sidebar is there only for images and image sequences. It's called "Files" because you can specify multiple files for an image sequence.

Footage replacement/remapping is fairly common, the shortcut C makes it convenient.

Edited: Originally I was suggesting to remove such button, but this looks like it's a legacy feature from 2.7 (and before). This is meant to be addressed in one of pending VSE roadmap tasks, called "Media Management", where Images, Image sequences and Videos are treated differently than they are now.

It looks like the "Change Data/Files" button in the sidebar is there only for images and image sequences. It's called "Files" because you can specify multiple files for an image sequence. Footage replacement/remapping is fairly common, the shortcut C makes it convenient. *Edited: Originally I was suggesting to remove such button, but this looks like it's a legacy feature from 2.7 (and before). This is meant to be addressed in one of pending VSE roadmap tasks, called "Media Management", where Images, Image sequences and Videos are treated differently than they are now.*
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'
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As I do not have anymore time or motivation for a continued investment in the Blender project, I'm giving up on this report for now.

As I do not have anymore time or motivation for a continued investment in the Blender project, I'm giving up on this report for now.
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Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Needs Triage'

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Needs Triage'
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Sorry to hear (thx again reporting). In my opinion we should not sweep this under the carpet, there is still a chance to get this fixed in the future and others might be affected by this issue as well.
Feel free to unsubscribe though.

Sorry to hear (thx again reporting). In my opinion we should not sweep this under the carpet, there is still a chance to get this fixed in the future and others might be affected by this issue as well. Feel free to unsubscribe though.
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Will classify as known issue if this should be addressed in future.

Will classify as known issue if this should be addressed in future.
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