Walk/fly navigation doesn't work properly with graphic tablets #93329

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Michał · 2021-11-23T12:48:24+01:00

Michał commented

2021-11-23 12:48:24 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19043-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 471.41
Graphic tablet: Huion Inspiroy Q11K V2

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2021-11-15 14:52, hash: 62da41d63d
Worked: ???

Short description of error
Previously reported this bug here: https://developer.blender.org/T65559

The fly/navigation mode is still not working for me with a graphic tablet- the view spins on it own.

When I change tablet API mode in Blender's preferences to WinTab, when I activate fly mode, the view starts to spin very fast around on the Z axis (looking at the gizmo in viewport's corner). Apart from the spinning, the view tilts quite correctly, you can see the Z axis seems to rotate in relation to moving the cursor up and down.
When I change tablet API mode to Windows Ink, the view stays still when I move the pen - nothing happens.
Enabling and disabling Windows Ink in the tablet driver (latest version) changes nothing.

What's interesting, I tried this addon (https://moth3r.gumroad.com/l/mouselook)- it seems to have its own implementation of fly navigation that works well with a tablet.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

In preferences, change tablet API mode to WinTab.
With cursor in the center of viewport, activate fly navigation (shift+tilde).
Don't move the pen -the viewport's view starts spin very fast around the Z axis on its own (should stay still).
Exit fly mode (escape key)
In preferences, change tablet API mode to Windows Ink.
With cursor in the center of viewport, activate fly navigation (shift+tilde).
When moving the pen, nothing happens, the view stays still (the view should rotate, like when using a mouse)

I'm attaching a screen recording of how it behaves on my PC using WinTab mode:
21-11-23 12-10-32-1_h264.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19043-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 471.41 Graphic tablet: Huion Inspiroy Q11K V2 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2021-11-15 14:52, hash: `62da41d63d` Worked: ??? **Short description of error** Previously reported this bug here: https://developer.blender.org/T65559 The fly/navigation mode is still not working for me with a graphic tablet- the view spins on it own. When I change tablet API mode in Blender's preferences to WinTab, when I activate fly mode, the view starts to spin very fast around on the Z axis (looking at the gizmo in viewport's corner). Apart from the spinning, the view tilts quite correctly, you can see the Z axis seems to rotate in relation to moving the cursor up and down. When I change tablet API mode to Windows Ink, the view stays still when I move the pen - nothing happens. Enabling and disabling Windows Ink in the tablet driver (latest version) changes nothing. What's interesting, I tried this addon (https://moth3r.gumroad.com/l/mouselook)- it seems to have its own implementation of fly navigation that works well with a tablet. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1) In preferences, change tablet API mode to WinTab. 2) With cursor in the center of viewport, activate fly navigation (shift+tilde). 3) Don't move the pen -the viewport's view starts spin very fast around the Z axis on its own (should stay still). 4) Exit fly mode (escape key) 5) In preferences, change tablet API mode to Windows Ink. 6) With cursor in the center of viewport, activate fly navigation (shift+tilde). 7) When moving the pen, nothing happens, the view stays still (the view should rotate, like when using a mouse) I'm attaching a screen recording of how it behaves on my PC using WinTab mode: [21-11-23 12-10-32-1_h264.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F11890375/21-11-23_12-10-32-1_h264.mp4)

Michał commented

2021-11-23 12:48:24 +01:00

Added subscriber: @MichalDresner

blender-admin commented

2021-11-23 12:48:24 +01:00

#90491 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-23 13:36:20 +01:00

Added subscriber: @PratikPB2123

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-23 13:57:43 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-23 13:57:43 +01:00

Added subscriber: @PrototypeNM1

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-23 13:57:43 +01:00

Don't move the pen -the viewport's view starts spin very fast around the Z axis on its own

Hi, thanks for the report. Does this work on LTS?: https://www.blender.org/download/ This could be related to #89520

With cursor in the center of viewport, activate fly navigation (shift+tilde).

Does this work when accessing walk/fly navigation from menu?
I think this is same as said in #84659 (not sure though. I don't have similar system to test)

@PrototypeNM1 , can you please check this?

> Don't move the pen -the viewport's view starts spin very fast around the Z axis on its own Hi, thanks for the report. Does this work on LTS?: https://www.blender.org/download/ This could be related to #89520 > With cursor in the center of viewport, activate fly navigation (shift+tilde). Does this work when accessing walk/fly navigation from menu? I think this is same as said in #84659 (not sure though. I don't have similar system to test) @PrototypeNM1 , can you please check this?

Michał commented

2021-11-23 15:03:00 +01:00

I checked both the latest 2.93 LTS and 2.80 LTS as well- tested both versions with both APIs, also enabling or disabling Windows Ink and then restarting Blender.
Every trial gave me the same result: a random (about 50/50?) chance of each of those 2 behaviors:

it works as desired
initially it doesn't work, then I lift may pen way up above tablet's reception area and then back down - then it starts working. That or moving the cursor with the mouse and then it starts working.

I checked both the latest 2.93 LTS and 2.80 LTS as well- tested both versions with both APIs, also enabling or disabling Windows Ink and then restarting Blender. Every trial gave me the same result: a random (about 50/50?) chance of each of those 2 behaviors: - it works as desired - initially it doesn't work, then I lift may pen way up above tablet's reception area and then back down - then it starts working. That or moving the cursor with the mouse and then it starts working.

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-23 18:13:05 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Nicholas Rishel self-assigned this 2021-11-24 02:41:05 +01:00

Nicholas Rishel commented

2021-11-24 02:41:05 +01:00

This should be resolved by 60c0b79256, but I'm a bit uncertain because the problem shouldn't be present in 2.93 LTS.

This should be resolved by 60c0b7925625, but I'm a bit uncertain because the problem shouldn't be present in 2.93 LTS.

Nicholas Rishel commented

2021-12-04 18:59:21 +01:00

@MichalDresner could you check if this issue was resolved in Blender 3.0?

Michał commented

2021-12-06 14:55:32 +01:00

In #93329#1264887, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@MichalDresner could you check if this issue was resolved in Blender 3.0?

In the current 3.0.0 stable:

WinTab API selected in Blender: It seems to behave somewhat similarily to 2.93 LTS - I did restart Blender a few times and it went like this: I enable/disable and fly mode for the first 1-3 times and it works OK, then it works, but only after I lift the pen above the tablet and put it back down (until I restart Blender).
Windows Ink selected in Blender: it either does not react to pen movement (Windows Ink enabled in the driver) or rotates perpetually (Windows Ink disabled in the driver).

> In #93329#1264887, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @MichalDresner could you check if this issue was resolved in Blender 3.0? In the current 3.0.0 stable: 1) WinTab API selected in Blender: It seems to behave somewhat similarily to 2.93 LTS - I did restart Blender a few times and it went like this: I enable/disable and fly mode for the first 1-3 times and it works OK, then it works, but only after I lift the pen above the tablet and put it back down (until I restart Blender). 2) Windows Ink selected in Blender: it either does not react to pen movement (Windows Ink enabled in the driver) or rotates perpetually (Windows Ink disabled in the driver).

Omar Emara commented

2022-02-25 16:58:10 +01:00

Added subscribers: @Vyach, @OmarEmaraDev, @mano-wii, @ideasman42, @antoniov

Omar Emara commented

2022-06-24 09:06:31 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Omar Emara commented

2022-06-24 09:06:31 +02:00

I can't reproduce on Linux on a Wacom, so assuming this is a Windows specific issue. On a recent Blender build, can you attach the appropriate debug logs when the issue happens as described in https://developer.blender.org/T90491#1349662? Let us know if you need help with that.

Omar Emara commented

2022-07-07 09:34:11 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Omar Emara closed this issue

2022-07-07 09:34:11 +02:00

Omar Emara commented

2022-07-07 09:34:11 +02:00

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed.

Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed. Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

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Walk/fly navigation doesn't work properly with graphic tablets #93329