Two Different M1 Mac minis BOTH Crash Whenever using Cycles In 3.1 Alpha #95143

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Corey McKinney Jr · 2022-01-22T21:56:06+01:00

Corey McKinney Jr commented

2022-01-22 21:56:06 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: macOS-12.0.1-arm64-arm-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: Apple M1 Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.1

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.1.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-01-22 00:20, hash: 1f026a3db9
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Whenever my viewport is in RENDERED VIEW I can use Eevee and scroll around my viewport just fine.
When I switch to Cycles on CPU renderer I can still scroll around just fine.
The problem arises when switching cycles to GPU mode WHILE my viewport is on Rendered View. This is when my entire computer shuts down.
I select both the Apple M1 and Apple M1 (GPU) option in system preferences when using Cycles.

My Girlfriend and I both bought each other M1 16g ram Mac minis for Christmas so we can learn 3d animation with Blender (LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS DO) and she has the same exact issue.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
I believe this issue may be specific to M1 Macs Or Just The M1 Mac Minis. To experience this bug. You must:

put your viewport in any view mode except for the rendered view.
Select Cycles As your Renderer,
Switch Cycles To GPU,
Select Apple M1 GPU in System presences,
reselect Cycles GPU to confirm,
Then switch your viewport to rendered view
then it should crash.
I have downloaded Demo files from blender and it crashes with every project I open. I create new files on my own and try to see if it still crashes and it always does.
The work around is to use eevee until it is time to render. when it is time to render you must put your viewport to anything except for rendered view and then select cycles gpu. after that I can render my project in cycles using my gpu.
I just can't use my viewport while in cycles gpu

**System Information** Operating system: macOS-12.0.1-arm64-arm-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: Apple M1 Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.1 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.1.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-01-22 00:20, hash: `1f026a3db9` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Whenever my viewport is in **RENDERED VIEW** I can use Eevee and scroll around my viewport just fine. When I switch to Cycles on CPU renderer I can still scroll around just fine. The problem arises when switching cycles to GPU mode **WHILE** my viewport is on `Rendered View`. This is when my entire computer shuts down. I select both the `Apple M1` and `Apple M1 (GPU)` option in system preferences when using Cycles. My Girlfriend and I both bought each other `M1 16g ram Mac minis` for Christmas so we can learn 3d animation with Blender (LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS DO) and she has the same exact issue. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** I believe this issue may be specific to `M1 Macs` Or Just The `M1 Mac Minis`. To experience this bug. You must: - put your viewport in any view mode except for the rendered view. - Select Cycles As your Renderer, - Switch Cycles To GPU, - Select `Apple M1 GPU` in System presences, - reselect Cycles GPU to confirm, - Then switch your viewport to rendered view then it should crash. I have downloaded Demo files from blender and it crashes with every project I open. I create new files on my own and try to see if it still crashes and it always does. The work around is to use eevee until it is time to render. when it is time to render you must put your viewport to anything except for rendered view and then select cycles gpu. after that I can render my project in cycles using my gpu. I just can't use my viewport while in cycles gpu

Corey McKinney Jr commented

2022-01-22 21:56:06 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Corey-McKinney-Jr

Anton Raves commented

2022-01-23 06:35:05 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Memento

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-25 14:51:25 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-25 14:51:25 +01:00

I cannot replicate the problem.
I tested it with the default Cube.
Are you sure any file can be used to replicate the crash?
I enabled both Apple M1 and Apple M1 (GPU) as "Cycles Render Devices"

System Information
Operating system: macOS-12.1-arm64-arm-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: Apple M1 Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.3

I cannot replicate the problem. I tested it with the default Cube. Are you sure any file can be used to replicate the crash? I enabled both `Apple M1` and `Apple M1 (GPU)` as "Cycles Render Devices" --- **System Information** Operating system: macOS-12.1-arm64-arm-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: Apple M1 Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.3

Ari commented

2022-01-26 09:08:45 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Ari_isDrawing

Ari commented

2022-01-26 09:13:42 +01:00

I was having the same issue with the same Mac M1, updating to macOS 12.1 fixed the issue for me. Hope this helps.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-26 13:57:49 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-26 13:57:49 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Michael-Jones

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-26 13:57:49 +01:00

@Michael-Jones, (I see you are working on the Cycles Metal implementation), is Metal supposed to work in pre 12.1 versions?
As version 12.0.1 is reported to crash, would it be good to limit support in this version?

@Michael-Jones, (I see you are working on the Cycles Metal implementation), is Metal supposed to work in pre 12.1 versions? As version 12.0.1 is reported to crash, would it be good to limit support in this version?

Michael Jones (Apple) commented

2022-01-26 16:19:33 +01:00

In #95143#1295293, @mano-wii wrote:
@Michael-Jones, (I see you are working on implementing Cycles Metal), is Metal supposed to work in pre 12.1 versions?
As version 12.0.1 is reported to crash, would it be good to limit support in this version?

There are some driver fixes which are landing in macOS 12.2 which are needed for strict correctness. However since 12.2 isn't currently in general circulation I was planning to make this commit closer to the Blender 3.1 release.

> In #95143#1295293, @mano-wii wrote: > @Michael-Jones, (I see you are working on implementing Cycles Metal), is Metal supposed to work in pre 12.1 versions? > As version 12.0.1 is reported to crash, would it be good to limit support in this version? There are some driver fixes which are landing in macOS 12.2 which are needed for strict correctness. However since 12.2 isn't currently in general circulation I was planning to make this commit closer to the Blender 3.1 release.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-26 19:40:33 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'

Germano Cavalcante closed this issue

2022-01-26 19:40:33 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante commented

2022-01-26 19:40:33 +01:00

Thanks for the info @Michael-Jones

Since Cycles Metal is still under development, and the reported crash can be resolved by updating the macOS, I'm closing this ticket.

@Ari_isDrawing, if the problem persists, please let us know so we can re-open the report. Don't forget to mention the specific version you tested again.

Thanks for the info @Michael-Jones Since Cycles Metal is still under development, and the reported crash can be resolved by updating the macOS, I'm closing this ticket. @Ari_isDrawing, if the problem persists, please let us know so we can re-open the report. Don't forget to mention the specific version you tested again.

Carter LaSalle commented

2022-02-25 21:37:39 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Carter-LaSalle

Carter LaSalle commented

2022-02-25 21:37:39 +01:00

I am also having this issue am I am using:
Blender Version: 3.2.0 Alpha, master, 2022-02-20 02:31, 1f79132287
OS: macOS-12.3-arm64-arm-64bit
GPU: Apple M1 Pro Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.3

In #95143#1295484, @mano-wii wrote:
Thanks for the info @Michael-Jones

Since Cycles Metal is still under development, and the reported crash can be resolved by updating the macOS, I'm closing this ticket.

@Ari_isDrawing, if the problem persists, please let us know so we can re-open the report. Don't forget to mention the specific version you tested again.

I am also having this issue am I am using: Blender Version: 3.2.0 Alpha, master, 2022-02-20 02:31, 1f7913228779 OS: macOS-12.3-arm64-arm-64bit GPU: Apple M1 Pro Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.3 > In #95143#1295484, @mano-wii wrote: > Thanks for the info @Michael-Jones > > Since Cycles Metal is still under development, and the reported crash can be resolved by updating the macOS, I'm closing this ticket. > > @Ari_isDrawing, if the problem persists, please let us know so we can re-open the report. Don't forget to mention the specific version you tested again.

Ben commented

2022-04-05 12:35:49 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Paulside

Ben commented

2022-04-05 12:35:49 +02:00

@mano-wii I'm still getting this same bug after updating my OS to 12.3.1. Tried rolling back to previous versions as well as different settings. Nothing working so far.

Blender Version: 3.1.2
Mac OS: 12.3.1
MacBook Pro M1 Max ARM-64

In #95143#1314090, @Carter-LaSalle wrote:
I am also having this issue am I am using:
Blender Version: 3.2.0 Alpha, master, 2022-02-20 02:31, 1f79132287
OS: macOS-12.3-arm64-arm-64bit
GPU: Apple M1 Pro Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.3

In #95143#1295484, @mano-wii wrote:
Thanks for the info @Michael-Jones

Since Cycles Metal is still under development, and the reported crash can be resolved by updating the macOS, I'm closing this ticket.

@Ari_isDrawing, if the problem persists, please let us know so we can re-open the report. Don't forget to mention the specific version you tested again.

@mano-wii I'm still getting this same bug after updating my OS to 12.3.1. Tried rolling back to previous versions as well as different settings. Nothing working so far. Blender Version: 3.1.2 Mac OS: 12.3.1 MacBook Pro M1 Max ARM-64 > In #95143#1314090, @Carter-LaSalle wrote: > I am also having this issue am I am using: > Blender Version: 3.2.0 Alpha, master, 2022-02-20 02:31, 1f7913228779 > OS: macOS-12.3-arm64-arm-64bit > GPU: Apple M1 Pro Apple 4.1 Metal - 76.3 > >> In #95143#1295484, @mano-wii wrote: >> Thanks for the info @Michael-Jones >> >> Since Cycles Metal is still under development, and the reported crash can be resolved by updating the macOS, I'm closing this ticket. >> >> @Ari_isDrawing, if the problem persists, please let us know so we can re-open the report. Don't forget to mention the specific version you tested again.

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Two Different M1 Mac minis BOTH Crash Whenever using Cycles In 3.1 Alpha #95143