Eydropper selection of custom bone shape do not work for 3D view with Xray #98456

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Vyacheslav Kobozev · 2022-05-27T21:57:57+02:00

2022-05-27 21:57:57 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 473.04

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.2.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2022-05-22 19:10, hash: 84e55e3dc2

Short description of error
As title say. Try to pick up custom boneshape with X-ray mode.
untitled.blend

2022-05-27_22-30-15.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 473.04 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.2.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2022-05-22 19:10, hash: `84e55e3dc2` **Short description of error** As title say. Try to pick up custom boneshape with X-ray mode. [untitled.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13115603/untitled.blend) [2022-05-27_22-30-15.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13115607/2022-05-27_22-30-15.mp4)

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2022-05-27 21:57:57 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Vyach

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:10:59 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:10:59 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:10:59 +02:00

Can confirm.

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:15:14 +02:00

Will add #animation_rigging since this indeed only seems to be a problem with posemode.
(not even sure about the special meaning XRay seems to have in posemode? Need to check, but when you have XRay on generally, then switch to posemode, this is first OFF, you can then enable it "again"?)

Will add #animation_rigging since this indeed only seems to be a problem with posemode. (not even sure about the special meaning XRay seems to have in posemode? Need to check, but when you have XRay on generally, then switch to posemode, this is first OFF, you can then enable it "again"?)

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:38:05 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:38:05 +02:00

Added subscribers: @Jeroen-Bakker, @dr.sybren

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:38:05 +02:00

So apparently this is more or less expected?

XRay in posemode triggers this 6d155dc462

Bone selection overlay is only available in pose mode.
and when active overrules the selection buffer.

I am not an animator, thus not really sure what this is for.
Afaict, it is also not documented.

But @dr.sybren or @Jeroen-Bakker would probably know more...

So apparently this is more or less expected? XRay in posemode triggers this 6d155dc462 > Bone selection overlay is only available in pose mode. > and when active overrules the selection buffer. I am not an animator, thus not really sure what this is for. Afaict, it is also not documented. But @dr.sybren or @Jeroen-Bakker would probably know more...

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:46:42 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:46:42 +02:00

In #66950#724102, @mano-wii wrote:
... but I don't understand what the Bone selection overlay really intends to do.
(Apparently it populates objects of the MESH type as well).

In #66950#765285, @Jeroen-Bakker wrote:
Ok, the original usecase for the pose mode bone selection layer was a case for animators. Selecting bones when posing a character...

Still not totally clear to me, maybe this should be in the manual?

> In #66950#724102, @mano-wii wrote: > ... but I don't understand what the `Bone selection overlay` really intends to do. > (Apparently it populates objects of the MESH type as well). > In #66950#765285, @Jeroen-Bakker wrote: > Ok, the original usecase for the pose mode bone selection layer was a case for animators. Selecting bones when posing a character... Still not totally clear to me, maybe this should be in the manual?

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:50:57 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Mets

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-05-28 13:50:57 +02:00

More uncertainty in another task:

In #72155#859333, @Mets wrote:
I don't know what the original or current intended design is for "Show Bone X-Ray", but I wish that all enabling it did was to make the viewport and selection act as if all pose mode armatures' "In Front" option was enabled.

Even before this bug, this was not the case, because when Show Bone X-Ray was disabled, and In Front was enabled, trying to select bones that were behind the mesh would fail, which would be very frustrating, since in this case there is no visual difference between Show Bone X-Ray being On or Off. You would just know that it's off because half of your selection attempts are failing.

In #72155#825073, @mano-wii wrote:
That option was not always called "Show Bone X-Ray", before it was called "Bone selection overlay".
Apparently this feature is being used in a different way than it was designed for and now it's just doubling the X-Ray feature.

More uncertainty in another task: > In #72155#859333, @Mets wrote: > I don't know what the original or current intended design is for "Show Bone X-Ray", but I wish that all enabling it did was to make the viewport and selection act as if all pose mode armatures' "In Front" option was enabled. > > Even before this bug, this was not the case, because when Show Bone X-Ray was disabled, and In Front was enabled, trying to select bones that were behind the mesh would fail, which would be very frustrating, since in this case there is no visual difference between Show Bone X-Ray being On or Off. You would just know that it's off because half of your selection attempts are failing. > In #72155#825073, @mano-wii wrote: > That option was not always called `"Show Bone X-Ray"`, before it was called `"Bone selection overlay"`. > Apparently this feature is being used in a different way than it was designed for and now it's just doubling the X-Ray feature.

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Eydropper selection of custom bone shape do not work for 3D view with Xray #98456