Regression: Append/Link of Object can create extra Scene #99166

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Sybren A. Stüvel · 2022-06-25T15:35:39+02:00

Sybren A. Stüvel commented

2022-06-25 15:35:39 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19043-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 516.40

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.1, 3.1.2, 3.2.1 releases, and 3.3.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-06-24 21:39, hash: 12bde317f4
Worked: 2.93.9

Caused by 3be5ce4aad

Short description of error
Appending the one object Bottom from the attached file doesn't add it to the current Scene. Instead, it creates Scene.001 that contains the appended object.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Open a factory-default blender.
Erase all the objects from the scene, just to have a clean slate.
Append the Bottom object from the attached file.

Expected behaviour: the Bottom object appears in the scene.
Observed behaviour: a new scene Scene.001 was created, which contains the Bottom object.

bugreport-append-from-this.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19043-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 516.40 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.1, 3.1.2, 3.2.1 releases, and 3.3.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-06-24 21:39, hash: `12bde317f4` Worked: 2.93.9 Caused by 3be5ce4aad **Short description of error** Appending the one object `Bottom` from the attached file doesn't add it to the current Scene. Instead, it creates `Scene.001` that contains the appended object. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Open a factory-default blender. - Erase all the objects from the scene, just to have a clean slate. - Append the `Bottom` object from the attached file. **Expected behaviour:** the `Bottom` object appears in the scene. **Observed behaviour:** a new scene `Scene.001` was created, which contains the `Bottom` object. [bugreport-append-from-this.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13229110/bugreport-append-from-this.blend)

Sybren A. Stüvel commented

2022-06-25 15:35:39 +02:00

Added subscriber: @dr.sybren

Antonio Vazquez commented

2022-06-25 15:40:38 +02:00

Added subscriber: @antoniov

Antonio Vazquez commented

2022-06-25 15:40:38 +02:00

I can confirm the bug on Windows in 3.3 version.

Antonio Vazquez changed title from ~~Append of Object can create extra Scene~~ to Append/Link of Object can create extra Scene

2022-06-25 15:43:25 +02:00

Evan Wilson commented

2022-06-26 13:22:01 +02:00

Added subscriber: @EAW

Evan Wilson commented

2022-06-26 13:22:01 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Evan Wilson commented

2022-06-26 13:22:01 +02:00

In #99166#1380239, @antoniov wrote:
I can confirm the bug on Windows in 3.3 version.

I’ll set this to confirmed then.

> In #99166#1380239, @antoniov wrote: > I can confirm the bug on Windows in 3.3 version. I’ll set this to confirmed then.

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-06-26 15:36:02 +02:00

Added subscribers: @mont29, @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-06-26 15:36:02 +02:00

Caused by 3be5ce4aad

CC @mont29

Caused by 3be5ce4aad CC @mont29

Philipp Oeser changed title from ~~Append/Link of Object can create extra Scene~~ to Regression: Append/Link of Object can create extra Scene

2022-06-26 15:36:21 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2022-06-30 13:05:51 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Archived'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2022-06-30 13:05:51 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2022-06-30 13:05:51 +02:00

Weirdly enough, this is actually expected behavior, since your object has a driver (in its Solidify modifier) that uses the Scene ID of the 'library' file. So linking/appending the object also brings in the scene from that file, and since that object is therefore already instantiated in said scene, it is not added to the current scene. You can of course always add it to the current scene manually...

Bastien Montagne commented

2022-06-30 13:07:08 +02:00

@lichtwerk btw, we only systematically consider regressions as high prio if they are from previous version, not when they have been around for over an year. ;)

Philipp Oeser commented

2022-06-30 13:18:51 +02:00

In #99166#1382841, @mont29 wrote:
@lichtwerk btw, we only systematically consider regressions as high prio if they are from previous version, not when they have been around for over an year. ;)

For now, I was considering everything "post-2.93" with a "seems important" feel to it a regression in that sense (high prio), commit is "only" 9 months old btw..
https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Bug_Reports/Triaging_Playbook

High - Most crashes and recent regressions.

Brings up the question what is meant by "recent" here, but if there is consensus that "recent" is only meant to say "since previous version", we should change the playbook (to make this more clear).

Thx clarifying the case/issue here btw. makes sense now.

> In #99166#1382841, @mont29 wrote: > @lichtwerk btw, we only systematically consider regressions as high prio if they are from previous version, not when they have been around for over an year. ;) For now, I was considering everything "post-2.93" with a "seems important" feel to it a regression in that sense (high prio), commit is "only" 9 months old btw.. https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Process/Bug_Reports/Triaging_Playbook > High - Most crashes and recent regressions. Brings up the question what is meant by "recent" here, but if there is consensus that "recent" is only meant to say "since previous version", we should change the playbook (to make this more clear). Thx clarifying the case/issue here btw. makes sense now.

Sybren A. Stüvel commented

2022-06-30 17:15:04 +02:00

In #99166#1382837, @mont29 wrote:
Weirdly enough, this is actually expected behavior, since your object has a driver (in its Solidify modifier) that uses the Scene ID of the 'library' file. So linking/appending the object also brings in the scene from that file, and since that object is therefore already instantiated in said scene, it is not added to the current scene. You can of course always add it to the current scene manually...

That is rather unexpected indeed, since I append only the object -- that is my focus. I think this should at least cause some warning so that users at least know where to look.

> In #99166#1382837, @mont29 wrote: > Weirdly enough, this is actually expected behavior, since your object has a driver (in its Solidify modifier) that uses the Scene ID of the 'library' file. So linking/appending the object also brings in the scene from that file, and since that object is therefore already instantiated in said scene, it is not added to the current scene. You can of course always add it to the current scene manually... That is rather unexpected indeed, since I append only the object -- that is my focus. I think this should at least cause some warning so that users at least know where to look.

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Regression: Append/Link of Object can create extra Scene #99166