Extensions Website publicly showing Blender ID Full Name, NOT Username #59

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thorn-neverwake · 2024-03-21T15:57:54+01:00

thorn-neverwake commented

2024-03-21 15:57:54 +01:00

This is a major privacy concern!

It is fine that the Blender Foundation have the full legal name of a user as part of account creation agreement, but NOT to display it to the world!

This is a major privacy concern! It is fine that the Blender Foundation have the full legal name of a user as part of account creation agreement, but **NOT** to display it to the world!

Vas commented

2024-05-28 16:59:54 +02:00

second this, can we do something about it?

I try not to use my legal name anywhere on internet. And Also the other problem is that I changed my name on Blender.ID and it still didn't update on the website (its already been around over a month since i altered it)

I maintain my code under nickname Alias, I think displaying full legal name of someone is a huge problem to simply throw out online.

Also https://extensions.blender.org/settings/profile/

both Full Name and Username have both same description!

"Displayed in extension pages, rating comments and so on. "

this is a major source of confusion too

second this, can we do something about it? I try not to use my legal name anywhere on internet. And Also the other problem is that I changed my name on **Blender.ID** and it still **didn't update** on the website (its already been around over a month since i altered it) I maintain my code under nickname Alias, I think displaying full legal name of someone is a huge problem to simply throw out online. Also https://extensions.blender.org/settings/profile/ both **Full Name** and **Username** have both same description! "Displayed in extension pages, rating comments and so on. " this is a major source of confusion too

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Anna Sirota self-assigned this 2024-05-28 19:23:49 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2024-05-29 15:37:17 +02:00

As far as I know this is standard behavior. For example GitHub, Gitea and Discourse work the same way, showing the "Full Name" or "Name" fields publicly, without a separate legal name field.

People who don't want their legal name to be public fill in something else there. Creating an account on id.blender.org doesn't seem to ask for the legal name specifically.

As far as I know this is standard behavior. For example GitHub, Gitea and Discourse work the same way, showing the "Full Name" or "Name" fields publicly, without a separate legal name field. People who don't want their legal name to be public fill in something else there. Creating an account on id.blender.org doesn't seem to ask for the legal name specifically.

thorn-neverwake commented

2024-05-29 16:00:23 +02:00

Here's the current situation: I've only ever provided my full name to Blender, when I created the account to become a donor - and this was because it is tied to a billing record. This was 18 months ago, so it's possible my memory is is at fault - but, it feels like my blender ID was then created using that criteria as the user info.

Extensions website has now pulled that account info over, and when I look at the "how your name will be displayed" preview, it shows my full legal name, not the alias you're seeing here.

In other words, either extensions is pulling from the wrong data field in my account, or the preview image that is showing me is wrong.

Here's the current situation: I've only ever provided my full name to Blender, when I created the account to become a donor - and this was because it is tied to a billing record. This was 18 months ago, so it's possible my memory is is at fault - but, it feels like my blender ID was then created using that criteria as the user info. Extensions website has now pulled *that account info* over, and when I look at the "how your name will be displayed" preview, it shows my full legal name, not the alias you're seeing here. In other words, either extensions is pulling from the wrong data field in my account, or the preview image that is showing me is wrong.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2024-05-29 16:27:57 +02:00

To be clear what happens is:

You try to log in to the development fund without an account.
It asks to create a Blender ID account first, including name. This step does not ask for a legal name or billing info.
Next a development fund account is created, which includes billing info. This billing info is not stored in the Blender ID account.
Logging into extensions, devtalk, projects uses the Blender ID account as well.

I can imagine that it's not obvious that this is happening, and maybe the wording can be changed in the Blender ID account creation step to clarify what is happening. But I don't think it's possible for extensions to be pulling in any data from the development fund account.

To be clear what happens is: * You try to log in to the development fund without an account. * It asks to create a Blender ID account first, including name. This step does not ask for a legal name or billing info. * Next a development fund account is created, which includes billing info. This billing info is not stored in the Blender ID account. * Logging into extensions, devtalk, projects uses the Blender ID account as well. I can imagine that it's not obvious that this is happening, and maybe the wording can be changed in the Blender ID account creation step to clarify what is happening. But I don't think it's possible for extensions to be pulling in any data from the development fund account.

thorn-neverwake commented

2024-05-29 17:07:31 +02:00

Perhaps a pic will demo the situation a bit more.

Note that Extensions site says in 2 different places "this is what will be shown". The Preview says "this is how it is displayed", which means exactly the same thing as "this is what will be shown".

On my id.blender, i changed it to THORN after leaving a commend on an extension, and saw my full legal name as the comment author. Thankfully, the extension developer removed my comment after I sent them a message. No idea which name of mine would appear on a comment presently, as the website lists 3 different things of "here's the name that's going to be shown."

Perhaps a pic will demo the situation a bit more. Note that Extensions site says in 2 different places "this is what will be shown". The Preview says "this is how it is displayed", which means exactly the same thing as "this is what will be shown". On my id.blender, i changed it to THORN after leaving a commend on an extension, and saw my full legal name as the comment author. Thankfully, the extension developer removed my comment after I sent them a message. No idea which name of mine would appear on a comment presently, as the website lists 3 different things of "here's the name that's going to be shown."

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Brecht Van Lommel commented

2024-05-29 17:27:00 +02:00

I think the additional issue might be that changes to the Blender ID full name are not being properly synced to the extensions website.

The workaround for that would be to revoke access from the extensions website and then log out and log in again on the extensions website. This will remove the extensions account data.
https://id.blender.org/applications

I think the additional issue might be that changes to the Blender ID full name are not being properly synced to the extensions website. The workaround for that would be to revoke access from the extensions website and then log out and log in again on the extensions website. This will remove the extensions account data. https://id.blender.org/applications

Dalai Felinto commented

2024-05-29 17:31:38 +02:00

I think the additional issue might be that changes to the Blender ID full name are not being properly synced to the extensions website.

This was the case a few months ago but was fixed already. However it was fixed only for new updates.

The best workaround now is to edit again (you can change to something else and back what you want). The extensions website should pick it up in minutes.

> I think the additional issue might be that changes to the Blender ID full name are not being properly synced to the extensions website. This was the case a few months ago but was fixed already. However it was fixed only for new updates. The best workaround now is to edit again (you can change to something else and back what you want). The extensions website should pick it up in minutes.

Vas commented

2024-05-29 20:38:16 +02:00

The best workaround now is to edit again (you can change to something else and back what you want). The extensions website should pick it up in minutes.

can confirm it updates instantly now, i guess this not as a grave of a problem as it was before if users can alter their names quickly if needed👍

> The best workaround now is to edit again (you can change to something else and back what you want). The extensions website should pick it up in minutes. can confirm it updates instantly now, i guess this not as a grave of a problem as it was before if users can alter their names quickly if needed👍

Anna Sirota commented

2024-05-30 12:58:45 +02:00

I think it's reasonable for Extensions Platform to display Blender ID username instead of full name, given that full name is indeed used in Blender Studio and DevFund billing details.

Other websites using Blender ID (DevTalk, projects.blender.org, chat) display username as well, it would make sense for Extensions to follow suit.

I think it's reasonable for Extensions Platform to display Blender ID username instead of full name, given that full name is indeed used in Blender Studio and DevFund billing details. Other websites using Blender ID (DevTalk, projects.blender.org, chat) display username as well, it would make sense for Extensions to follow suit.

Anna Sirota referenced this issue from a commit

2024-05-30 13:00:38 +02:00

Account: show Blender ID username instead of full name everywhere (closes #59)

Anna Sirota closed this issue

2024-05-30 13:00:38 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2024-05-30 13:12:49 +02:00

Other websites using Blender ID (DevTalk, projects.blender.org, chat) display username as well, it would make sense for Extensions to follow suit.

To be clear, devtalk and projects do publicly show both the username and full name (as can be seen in this issue). Displaying the username on extensions may be a fine design choice, but I don't think it changes much regarding privacy or consistency.

> Other websites using Blender ID (DevTalk, projects.blender.org, chat) display username as well, it would make sense for Extensions to follow suit. To be clear, devtalk and projects do publicly show both the username and full name (as can be seen in this issue). Displaying the username on extensions may be a fine design choice, but I don't think it changes much regarding privacy or consistency.

Anna Sirota commented

2024-05-30 13:19:51 +02:00

It definitely doesn't change anything concerning privacy because Blender ID registration on its own doesn't assume that full name is anybody's real name.

There are exceptions to this lack of expectation:

Blender Studio and DevFund, but only when someone expects a real name on their receipt or invoice;
Blender Chat in case of people working for the Institute or Studio (I remember being asked to change my username at Blender ID to match the name because that's the implicit policy).

It definitely doesn't change anything concerning privacy because Blender ID registration on its own doesn't **assume that full name is anybody's real name**. There are exceptions to this lack of expectation: * Blender Studio and DevFund, but only when someone expects a real name on their receipt or invoice; * Blender Chat in case of people working for the Institute or Studio (I remember being asked to change my username at Blender ID to match the name because that's the implicit policy).

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