Blender not taking movie clip or image in camera background when rendering animation #120929

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ManBlender · 2024-04-22T14:05:35+02:00

ManBlender commented

2024-04-22 14:05:35 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22631-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 497.17

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.6.5, branch: blender-v3.6-release, commit date: 2023-10-16 14:30, hash: cf1e1ed46b7e
Broken: version: 4.1.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-12-05 00:14, hash: ce81bdc2840e
Worked: old version < 3.5

Short description of error
I'm doing steps like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T2dvFvWh5A Blender 3.0- 5 Different Methods of Adding And Rendering Background Images In Blender.

I'm not sure it's problem with World, etc. Even I done simple example with movie clip still no result as expected.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
1 In final Blender in render not taking camera background in default to scene. This same Eve + Legacy, Cycles.
2 Also if camera if focused on image as plane, or other.. in render this object is not taken in final result in case on vieport display is taken (no relation with lights, etc. just gray screen due sky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43JuAhEKsw

3 This same if multiple cameras and binded to scene (btw it should be a "belt" with active camera not key frame points to recognize range).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXmEcGO4_js Blender Multi-Camera Switching.1-Stop Render Multi-Camera animaion in blender.Bind Camera to Markers

There is alternative way to do this by images
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhRpnArt8A Blender 3D: Render TWO cameras from the same scene in the COMPOSITOR!
But.. need movie with many sounds related to objects in compositor.

OPINION: after render Blender must add background without waiting for event from GUI, or some case is that background is not added when are movie clips (cyclic, etc. functions for frame).

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22631-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 497.17 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.6.5, branch: blender-v3.6-release, commit date: 2023-10-16 14:30, hash: `cf1e1ed46b7e` Broken: version: 4.1.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-12-05 00:14, hash: `ce81bdc2840e` Worked: old version < 3.5 **Short description of error** I'm doing steps like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T2dvFvWh5A Blender 3.0- 5 Different Methods of Adding And Rendering Background Images In Blender. I'm not sure it's problem with World, etc. Even I done simple example with movie clip still no result as expected. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1 In final Blender in render not taking camera background in default to scene. This same Eve + Legacy, Cycles. 2 Also if camera if focused on image as plane, or other.. in render this object is not taken in final result in case on vieport display is taken (no relation with lights, etc. just gray screen due sky) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43JuAhEKsw 3 This same if multiple cameras and binded to scene (btw it should be a "belt" with active camera not key frame points to recognize range). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXmEcGO4_js Blender Multi-Camera Switching.1-Stop Render Multi-Camera animaion in blender.Bind Camera to Markers There is alternative way to do this by images https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhRpnArt8A Blender 3D: Render TWO cameras from the same scene in the COMPOSITOR! But.. need movie with many sounds related to objects in compositor. OPINION: after render Blender must add background without waiting for event from GUI, or some case is that background is not added when are movie clips (cyclic, etc. functions for frame).

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ManBlender commented

2024-04-22 16:01:09 +02:00

I think for case of usage movie in background camera in output for render should be natural settled for render without any operations (still not sure what is wrong here)
#120939
#120938

I think for case of usage movie in background camera in output for render should be natural settled for render without any operations (still not sure what is wrong here) https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/120939 https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/120938

ManBlender commented

2024-04-22 16:20:14 +02:00

Soo.. not understanding nothing around now .
I have this type scene:
On left is image with movie clip
On center is box, plane and cropped movie clip
On right is image

On render (untitled) have just as On center is box, plane but not left movie clip and not right image.

Soo.. not understanding nothing around now . I have this type scene: On left is image with movie clip On center is box, plane and cropped movie clip On right is image On render (untitled) have just as On center is box, plane but not left movie clip and not right image.

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ManBlender commented

2024-04-22 17:08:49 +02:00

Ok, I think I found some relation around internal states in Blender that operating unpredictable state around adding image layers. Look at video.

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ManBlender commented

2024-04-22 17:13:56 +02:00

Soo.. when Blender doing animation, then no option to refresh state to pack both images I think. That can be reason that have different view from viewport and viewer including far result from expectation. I think it need code investigation.

ManBlender referenced this issue

2024-04-22 17:23:29 +02:00

Viewport Render (and Render Animation) color looks completely off from the Viewport #73956

ManBlender referenced this issue

2024-04-22 17:38:37 +02:00

When render animation from view can't set zoom size (looks like hanged window) #120943

YimingWu commented

2024-04-23 03:54:50 +02:00

I'm not sure what to make of this report. Imported image as plane are empty objects, they are not supposed to be visible in render. Unless you use viewport render image/animation.

I'm not sure what to make of this report. Imported image as plane are empty objects, they are not supposed to be visible in render. Unless you use viewport render image/animation. ![image](/attachments/fad2470f-2fbd-41ae-97c0-2e6e9dcf9db6)

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ManBlender commented

2024-04-23 11:54:33 +02:00

1 I know that viewport render image wokring, but why not in final render as normal can't work?
2 Let we imagine that rendering a room with TV where is movie clip..and what?
3 Then if animation regarding 1 not sure about camera binding process..

Anyway.. it's bug about states.

1 I know that viewport render image wokring, but why not in final render as normal can't work? 2 Let we imagine that rendering a room with TV where is movie clip..and what? 3 Then if animation regarding 1 not sure about camera binding process.. Anyway.. it's bug about states.

ManBlender referenced this issue

2024-04-23 12:05:11 +02:00

Movie clip not taking movie as mp4 in to render or thunbails #120939

Philipp Oeser commented

2024-04-23 15:19:35 +02:00

Empties do not render, see https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/4.2/modeling/empties.html

Camera Background images do not render either, that is expected.

For that to render in final renders, you need to either use the compositor, or have geometry with the image used in the shader.
(simplest way to do that is probably to use the Import Images as Planes Addon)

But there is really no bug here, will close (of course feel free to comment again if you still think you've found a bug)

Empties do not render, see https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/4.2/modeling/empties.html Camera Background images do not render either, that is expected. For that to render in final renders, you need to either use the compositor, or have geometry with the image used in the shader. (simplest way to do that is probably to use the `Import Images as Planes` Addon) But there is really no bug here, will close (of course feel free to comment again if you still think you've found a bug)

Philipp Oeser closed this issue

2024-04-23 15:19:39 +02:00

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Philipp Oeser commented

2024-04-23 15:21:06 +02:00

Worked: old version < 3.5

what makes you think this ever worked?

> Worked: old version < 3.5 what makes you think this ever worked?

ManBlender commented

2024-04-23 15:27:11 +02:00

Why you referring empties?

Camera Background images do not render either, that is expected.

Are you joking ?

what makes you think this ever worked?

Coz I created project in blender 3.4 and rendered project, now trying do update and not working. Doing new example and not working. I find.

It is bug, watch the movie I added. I must rendered a viewport not camera due this.. it's hard for animation case.

Why you referring empties? > Camera Background images do not render either, that is expected. Are you joking ? > what makes you think this ever worked? Coz I created project in blender 3.4 and rendered project, now trying do update and not working. Doing new example and not working. I find. It is bug, watch the movie I added. I must rendered a viewport not camera due this.. it's hard for animation case.

ManBlender reopened this issue

2024-04-23 15:27:14 +02:00

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Philipp Oeser referenced this issue

2024-04-23 15:30:32 +02:00

Movie clip not taking movie as mp4 in to render or thunbails #120939

Philipp Oeser commented

2024-04-23 15:36:42 +02:00

Why you referring empties?

Because you are using empties

Camera Background images do not render either, that is expected.

Are you joking ?

No

what makes you think this ever worked?

Coz I created project in blender 3.4 and rendered project, now trying do update and not working. Doing new example and not working. I find.

Then please add a .blend file where this was working in 3.4 and now it isnt

> Why you referring empties? Because you are using empties ![image](/attachments/9047f778-acb8-4198-a15c-d25f6d1fd5ee) > > > Camera Background images do not render either, that is expected. > > Are you joking ? No > > what makes you think this ever worked? > > Coz I created project in blender 3.4 and rendered project, now trying do update and not working. Doing new example and not working. I find. Then please add a .blend file where this was working in 3.4 and now it isnt

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ManBlender commented

2024-04-23 15:47:59 +02:00

Ah right, as drag and drop for files to have path.
But problem is regarding camera background from the path. That problem showing issue and record.
The 2 objects around I add to control access to resources as movie and image.

Ah right, as drag and drop for files to have path. But problem is regarding `camera background` from the path. That problem showing issue and record. The 2 objects around I add to control access to resources as movie and image.

ManBlender changed title from ~~Blender not taking movie clip or image in camera when rendering animation~~ to Blender not taking movie clip or image in camera background when rendering animation

2024-04-23 15:48:13 +02:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2024-04-23 15:51:40 +02:00

Again: expected.

For that to render in final renders, you need to either use the compositor, or have geometry with the image used in the shader.
(simplest way to do that is probably to use the Import Images as Planes Addon)

Then please add a .blend file where this was working in 3.4 and now it isnt

Please provide this ^^

Again: expected. >For that to render in final renders, you need to either use the compositor, or have geometry with the image used in the shader. (simplest way to do that is probably to use the `Import Images as Planes` Addon) >Then please add a .blend file where this was working in 3.4 and now it isnt Please provide this ^^

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Blender not taking movie clip or image in camera background when rendering animation #120929