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opened 2024-06-09 23:00:32 +02:00 by Ahmed · 9 comments
Ahmed commented 2024-06-09 23:00:32 +02:00
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Operating system: Win 10
Graphics card: NVidia GeForce GT 525M

Blender Version
Broken: (Blender 4.2.0 Alpha, '1c92d26bfc8d', 2024-6-5)
Worked: (Blender 4.2.0 Alpha, 'ffa363355db4', 2024-6-4)

Short description of error
Crashes on opening

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible).
I download the ZIP file from ( https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/ ) and extract it on my laptop
I open the extracted folder and click on either (blender.exe) or (blender-launcher.exe)
Blender then seems to start the loading screen then crashes.
No error message or anything.

Bug reports are attached.

**System Information** Operating system: Win 10 Graphics card: NVidia GeForce GT 525M **Blender Version** Broken: (Blender 4.2.0 Alpha, '1c92d26bfc8d', 2024-6-5) Worked: (Blender 4.2.0 Alpha, 'ffa363355db4', 2024-6-4) **Short description of error** Crashes on opening **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible). I download the ZIP file from ( https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/ ) and extract it on my laptop I open the extracted folder and click on either (blender.exe) or (blender-launcher.exe) Blender then seems to start the loading screen then crashes. No error message or anything. Bug reports are attached.
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Pratik Borhade commented 2024-06-10 08:31:13 +02:00
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Hi, thanks for the report. Did not spot any changes on shader side between 1c92d26bfc8d-ffa363355db4.
Did you install any community add-on by the time?
Does this happen if you launch blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd batch file?

version: '4.6.0 NVIDIA 391.35'

GPU and driver version version are bit old. Could you update GPU drivers then check the problem again?: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/windows/nvidia.html

Hi, thanks for the report. Did not spot any changes on shader side between `1c92d26bfc8d-ffa363355db4`. Did you install any community add-on by the time? Does this happen if you launch blender from `blender_factory_startup.cmd` batch file? > version: '4.6.0 NVIDIA 391.35' GPU and driver version version are bit old. Could you update GPU drivers then check the problem again?: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/windows/nvidia.html
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Ahmed commented 2024-06-10 11:02:08 +02:00
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Hi, thanks for the report. Did not spot any changes on shader side between 1c92d26bfc8d-ffa363355db4.
Did you install any community add-on by the time?
Does this happen if you launch blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd batch file?

version: '4.6.0 NVIDIA 391.35'

GPU and driver version version are bit old. Could you update GPU drivers then check the problem again?: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/windows/nvidia.html

I have a couple of community add-ons from before moving to [extensions] and some [Extensions] I installed after that.

And yes, it happens if I launch blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd batch file.

I re-installed the driver, since it's the last available one.

> Hi, thanks for the report. Did not spot any changes on shader side between `1c92d26bfc8d-ffa363355db4`. > Did you install any community add-on by the time? > Does this happen if you launch blender from `blender_factory_startup.cmd` batch file? > > > version: '4.6.0 NVIDIA 391.35' > > GPU and driver version version are bit old. Could you update GPU drivers then check the problem again?: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/windows/nvidia.html I have a couple of community add-ons from before moving to [extensions] and some [Extensions] I installed after that. And yes, it happens if I launch blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd batch file. I re-installed the driver, since it's the last available one.
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Pratik Borhade commented 2024-06-10 11:37:21 +02:00
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Thanks, I'll check with others to see if they have similar hardware to test the crash

Thanks, I'll check with others to see if they have similar hardware to test the crash
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Pratik Borhade commented 2024-06-11 06:19:15 +02:00
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@AhmedNassef hi, does it work with gpu workarounds enabled? For that, launch blender from blender_debug_gpu_glitchworkaround.cmd batch file.

@AhmedNassef hi, does it work with gpu workarounds enabled? For that, launch blender from `blender_debug_gpu_glitchworkaround.cmd` batch file.
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Ahmed commented 2024-06-11 11:29:09 +02:00
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@AhmedNassef hi, does it work with gpu workarounds enabled? For that, launch blender from blender_debug_gpu_glitchworkaround.cmd batch file.

Still crashes

> @AhmedNassef hi, does it work with gpu workarounds enabled? For that, launch blender from `blender_debug_gpu_glitchworkaround.cmd` batch file. Still crashes
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Pratik Borhade commented 2024-06-11 11:30:11 +02:00
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@Jeroen-Bakker hi, any idea? Looks hardware/gpu specific

@Jeroen-Bakker hi, any idea? Looks hardware/gpu specific
Jeroen Bakker commented 2024-06-11 11:50:53 +02:00
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It seems to fail at the first shader blender uses (icon rendering). Not sure why. The message seems to point to a compiler bug.

  • I will closely look at the differences between the mentioned hashes.
  • Will try to install an older NVIDIA driver and see if I can reproduce the issue. IIRC we have a 500 series here.

Is it possible to start blender from the command line with the --debug-gpu-compile-shaders option. This will compile most shaders and report which one are failing, perhaps that leads to an work-around

It seems to fail at the first shader blender uses (icon rendering). Not sure why. The message seems to point to a compiler bug. - I will closely look at the differences between the mentioned hashes. - Will try to install an older NVIDIA driver and see if I can reproduce the issue. IIRC we have a 500 series here. Is it possible to start blender from the command line with the `--debug-gpu-compile-shaders` option. This will compile most shaders and report which one are failing, perhaps that leads to an work-around
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Jeroen Bakker commented 2024-06-11 13:30:21 +02:00
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I am able to reproduce using the same driver. Seems like a driver bug.

I am able to reproduce using the same driver. Seems like a driver bug.
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Jeroen Bakker commented 2024-06-11 14:37:50 +02:00
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Validated that Blender works with these drivers.

Validated that Blender works with these drivers.
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