Consistent and improved modal operator status display #56599

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Brecht Van Lommel · 2018-08-29T11:49:45+02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2018-08-29 11:49:45 +02:00

We need to go through all usage of ED_workspace_status_text and ED_area_status_text and make it use the new convention:

The statusbar shows keymaps, with the new keymap drawing with icons.
Area header shows values and state being edited, so it's close to where the user is looking.

Some example issues:

Knife shows mixed keymap and state text in the status bar, should be split up.
Transform operator shows a long list of keymap items, could be organized to show fewer.

We need to go through all usage of `ED_workspace_status_text` and `ED_area_status_text` and make it use the new convention: * The statusbar shows keymaps, with the new keymap drawing with icons. * Area header shows values and state being edited, so it's close to where the user is looking. Some example issues: * Knife shows mixed keymap and state text in the status bar, should be split up. * Transform operator shows a long list of keymap items, could be organized to show fewer.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2018-08-29 11:49:45 +02:00

Added subscriber: @brecht

blender-admin commented

2018-08-29 11:49:45 +02:00

#69638 was marked as duplicate of this issue

blender-admin commented

2018-08-29 11:49:45 +02:00

#56600 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Brecht Van Lommel changed title from ~~Finish keymap display in status bar~~ to Improve keymap display in status bar

2018-08-29 14:40:03 +02:00

Aaron Carlisle commented

2020-01-27 02:25:08 +01:00

Added subscribers: @AlbertoVelazquez, @jenkm, @Blendify, @lichtwerk, @WilliamReynish

Alberto Velázquez commented

2020-01-27 10:42:22 +01:00

I think this idea is a mistake. All information must appear in the header area. You can't separate the parameter from the shorcut needed to change it and you have to be passing from one bar to another to know which hotkey is the one you have to press.

Even I, who have 10 years of blender experience, don't remember all the hotkeys inside the modal tool itself and I have already had problems with tools that work like that.

I recommend to look at this proposal very supported by the users of how the header area should be improved, and not to insist on changing everything to a statusbar what only create problems to the users.

https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect/Bldbbc/

I think this idea is a mistake. All information must appear in the header area. You can't separate the parameter from the shorcut needed to change it and you have to be passing from one bar to another to know which hotkey is the one you have to press. Even I, who have 10 years of blender experience, don't remember all the hotkeys inside the modal tool itself and I have already had problems with tools that work like that. I recommend to look at this proposal very supported by the users of how the header area should be improved, and not to insist on changing everything to a statusbar what only create problems to the users. https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect/Bldbbc/ ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8304611/image.png)

michael campbell commented

2020-10-07 16:25:31 +02:00

Added subscriber: @3di

michael campbell commented

2020-10-07 16:25:31 +02:00

Status bar isn't big enough for keymaps. Even on my 4K monitor there's not enough room for even a small number of keymaps to be visible if I have the other status bar information options enabled (which I do). It's not a good idea to hide some of the keymaps, whose to say what a person might need to know, and the keymaps must be important enough to show, otherwise they wouldn't have been created in the first place.

Best solution move the keymaps to the side of the 3d viewport opposite to the header, and combine them with the curent values like @AlbertoVelazquez suggests. This way it won't be fighting with the header, it won't be limited to a too small space, and the user won't have to look between two different places to see the value and the required keymap to change it.

Status bar isn't big enough for keymaps. Even on my 4K monitor there's not enough room for even a small number of keymaps to be visible if I have the other status bar information options enabled (which I do). It's not a good idea to hide some of the keymaps, whose to say what a person might need to know, and the keymaps must be important enough to show, otherwise they wouldn't have been created in the first place. Best solution move the keymaps to the side of the 3d viewport opposite to the header, and combine them with the curent values like @AlbertoVelazquez suggests. This way it won't be fighting with the header, it won't be limited to a too small space, and the user won't have to look between two different places to see the value and the required keymap to change it.

tintwotin commented

2020-11-17 11:47:13 +01:00

Added subscriber: @tintwotin

tintwotin commented

2020-11-17 11:47:13 +01:00

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tintwotin commented

2020-12-02 08:31:53 +01:00

There are also wrong shortcuts in the Statusbar: https://developer.blender.org/T83307

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Consistent and improved modal operator status display #56599