Adding new workspaces from old startup files fails #60651

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Pham Truong · 2019-01-19T16:58:36+01:00

Pham Truong commented

2019-01-19 16:58:36 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Graphics card: AMD RX 480 4Gb

Blender Version
Broken: 2.80 Beta c59370bf64

Worked: (optional)

Blender will keep shutting down whenever I click the + icon to add another workspace. Normally it would work, but if it was in sculpting mode, that will happen.

To reproduce the error, create a new file by clicking File -> New -> Sculpting. Then you can add any mode in the General tab then this will happen. Any saved files that opened this way will have the same fate Like this one One Eyed Creature 002 b.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Graphics card: AMD RX 480 4Gb **Blender Version** Broken: 2.80 Beta c59370bf643f Worked: (optional) **Blender will keep shutting down whenever I click the + icon to add another workspace. Normally it would work, but if it was in sculpting mode, that will happen.** **To reproduce the error, create a new file by clicking File -> New -> Sculpting. Then you can add any mode in the General tab then this will happen. Any saved files that opened this way will have the same fate** Like this one [One Eyed Creature 002 b.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6337622/One_Eyed_Creature_002_b.blend)

Pham Truong commented

2019-01-19 16:58:36 +01:00

Added subscriber: @MageArt

blender-admin commented

2019-01-19 16:58:36 +01:00

#63152 was marked as duplicate of this issue

blender-admin commented

2019-01-19 16:58:36 +01:00

#62789 was marked as duplicate of this issue

William Reynish commented

2019-01-19 17:15:59 +01:00

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William Reynish commented

2019-01-19 17:15:59 +01:00

Cannot reproduce. What does*'Then you can add any mode in the General tab'* mean? And what does "...will have the same fate Like this one" mean? What fate exactly? We need the report to be a little more detailed and specific.

Thanks.

Cannot reproduce. What does*'Then you can add any mode in the General tab'* mean? And what does *"...will have the same fate Like this one"* mean? What fate exactly? We need the report to be a little more detailed and specific. Thanks.

Pham Truong commented

2019-01-19 17:34:55 +01:00

To be more detailed, i've just recorded this video to show you the problem more clearly. 2019.01.19-23.31.mp4
I don't think you can see the video here so i'll post a link to youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZcbOB55q7k&feature=youtu.be

To be more detailed, i've just recorded this video to show you the problem more clearly. [2019.01.19-23.31.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6337870/2019.01.19-23.31.mp4) I don't think you can see the video here so i'll post a link to youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZcbOB55q7k&feature=youtu.be

William Reynish commented

2019-01-19 17:48:35 +01:00

I cannot reproduce that crash here. Are you using the latest build from builder.blender.org? And can you try going to File > Load Factory Settings and see if you still get the crash?

Pham Truong commented

2019-01-19 18:38:01 +01:00

Yeah, I just downloaded the 2.8 version from the site so it is the latest build. And I did load factory settings as you said and the problem still remains. I think the software might conflict with another apps within my pc? I also tried to turn off Windows Defender but thats not the case.

William Reynish commented

2019-01-19 22:06:46 +01:00

Hard to say what causes this. Will keep this open for now.

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-03-21 09:36:11 +01:00

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Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-03-21 09:37:06 +01:00

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Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-03-21 09:37:06 +01:00

Probably the same cause as in #59314

IE old blender 2.79 workspace templates will crash blender.

@brecht I'm guessing this is something we would want to fix before the stable release?

Probably the same cause as in #59314 IE old blender 2.79 workspace templates will crash blender. @brecht I'm guessing this is something we would want to fix before the stable release?

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-03-22 16:32:40 +01:00

Yes, we should fix such crashes.

Ulysse Martin commented

2019-03-23 06:45:07 +01:00

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Ulysse Martin commented

2019-03-23 06:45:07 +01:00

I can't reproduce the crash neither following the described steps (gxt 1080, windows 10 64, last blender master)

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-03-31 20:45:00 +02:00

Added subscriber: @benjho

Benny commented

2019-04-06 11:48:44 +02:00

After Sebastian has merged my bug report with this one (thanks for that!), I did some more testing.

I think, the problem boils down to this:
In the "Add Workspace" menu, there are some fixed entries (which work), and some entries (the ones above the divider in the "General" section), that are populated from the startup file and cause trouble.

If the startup file was imported from Blender 2.79 or below, adding one of those "old" workspaces crashes blender.
You should be able to reproduce this with this startup file (copy it to %appdata%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.80\config\startup.blend or the equivalent place on your OS):
startup.blend

Once you save the startup file in Blender 2.8 (without changing anything), there are no more crashes (at least not from this issue ^^)

I hope this information helps to reproduce the bug, and maybe even fix it.
In my opinion, it should be enough to find and catch the exception and display a warning. At least thats better than a silent crash which swallows all your unsaved work ;-)

After Sebastian has merged my bug report with this one (thanks for that!), I did some more testing. I think, the problem boils down to this: In the "Add Workspace" menu, there are some fixed entries (which work), and some entries (the ones above the divider in the "General" section), that are populated from the startup file and cause trouble. ![grafik.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6903473/grafik.png) If the startup file was imported from Blender 2.79 or below, adding one of those "old" workspaces crashes blender. You should be able to reproduce this with this startup file (copy it to `%appdata%\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.80\config\startup.blend` or the equivalent place on your OS): [startup.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6914966/startup.blend) Once you save the startup file in Blender 2.8 (without changing anything), there are no more crashes (at least not from this issue ^^) I hope this information helps to reproduce the bug, and maybe even fix it. In my opinion, it should be enough to find and catch the exception and display a warning. At least thats better than a silent crash which swallows all your unsaved work ;-)

Brecht Van Lommel changed title from ~~Blender automatically shut down when adding new workspaces.~~ to Adding new workspaces from old startup files fails

2019-05-29 15:37:57 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-05-29 15:38:10 +02:00

It no longer crashes now, but does nothing instead.