Crash during cycles GPU rendering in viewport #75319

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13587 Core Profile Context 20.3.1 26.20.15029.15007

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: 375c7dc4ca
Worked: (optional)

Short description of error
Blender crashes when using my GPU to render with cycles. This does not occur when using CPU. This does not occur when using F12 to render, only when in viewport.
This occurs when rendering anything, including a basic cube.
Blender displays "Loading render kernels" for a period of time before closing with no error message.
Running it via the console shows an LLVM error.
I have tested it on blender 2.81 as well and it does not work there.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
[Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue]
[Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]

Open .blend file
Set cycles to use opencl with RX5700 XT
Set GPU compute in render options
Change viewport to render view
Wait until crash

bug.blend

2.82 debug logs.txt

2.81 logs.txt

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Here is another round of logs using the blender_debug_log.cmd tool.

blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Back again with another update. I built the current master: version: 2.83 (sub 11), branch: master, commit date: 2020-04-03 16:25, hash: 63922c5056d1, and tried again. Same issue.

blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Added subscriber: @iss

Can not reproduce on
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon RX550/550 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13586 Core Profile Context 19.12.2 26.20.15002.61

Are you aware, that you have uploaded default cube file? (steps to reproduce are not applicable, so I will rather ask)

Are you aware, that you have uploaded default cube file

I am.

If you look at the debug logs you will see:

Cycles: compiling OpenCL program background...
I0403 13:08:51.674562 13252 opencl_util.cpp:298] Build flags: -D__NODES_MAX_GROUP__=4 -D__NODES_FEATURES__=30 -D__NO_OBJECT_MOTION__ -D__NO_CAMERA_MOTION__ -D__NO_BAKING__ -D__NO_VOLUME__ -D__NO_SUBSURFACE__ -D__NO_BRANCHED_PATH__ -D__NO_PATCH_EVAL__ -D__NO_TRANSPARENT__ -D__NO_SHADOW_TRICKS__ -D__NO_DENOISING__ -D__NO_SHADER_RAYTRACE__
I0403 13:08:51.674562 13252 opencl_util.cpp:325] Build options passed to clBuildProgram: '-cl-no-signed-zeros -cl-mad-enable -cl-std=CL2.0 -D__KERNEL_OPENCL_AMD__ -D__KERNEL_CL_KHR_FP16__ -D__NODES_MAX_GROUP__=4 -D__NODES_FEATURES__=30 -D__NO_OBJECT_MOTION__ -D__NO_CAMERA_MOTION__ -D__NO_BAKING__ -D__NO_VOLUME__ -D__NO_SUBSURFACE__ -D__NO_BRANCHED_PATH__ -D__NO_PATCH_EVAL__ -D__NO_TRANSPARENT__ -D__NO_SHADOW_TRICKS__ -D__NO_DENOISING__ -D__NO_SHADER_RAYTRACE__'.
LLVM ERROR: Error while trying to spill SGPR4_SGPR5 from class SReg_64: Cannot scavenge register without an emergency spill slot!
AL lib: (EE) alc_cleanup: 1 device not closed

I suspect this is hardware specific as this is a fresh Windows 10 install, with the latest drivers for my GPU. AMD released a new set of drivers this month, which I have also tried with the same results.

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

I also cannot reproduce the problem.
Everything fine in:
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18941 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13586 Core Profile Context 19.50.01.05 26.20.15001.5006

I notice that your installed driver is newer.
Perhaps the problem is related.

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

I have updated my driver, and still no crash.

Graphics card: Radeon RX550/550 Series ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13587 Core Profile Context 20.4.1 26.20.15029.20013

@sebsoto I haven't noticed rprblender addon first time, can you check if crash happens if you click on File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings?

I removed the addon like asked. Same issue.

blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Added subscribers: @Hrodemx, @Insertcoin.tv

Hello guys, we did some tests instead of jobs... jesus..
so..
AMD Radeon(TM) Pro Duo (monitor)+ AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (discrete)

Blender 2.82 in render, scene time 20sec per frame, with 2 youtube session 2k in play and game GuildWars2 opened, no problem, no crash.
Same thing with 2.83, render much faster like 14sec per frame, really unstable, random crash while render. If we open some youtube, or some other app that use graphics card, Blender stop render, and after about 15/20 sec, black screen driver reset, and then pc stalled, must restart physically.

If we open Guild Wars2 game, blender stop render asap, and crash 100%.

We tried with AMD Radeon(TM) Pro Duo (monitor) + AMD rx580 and same story.

Also viewport in 2.83 is much more responsive, but often crash all the system.

system-info.txt

Changed the TDR values of the Registry and set to 60.
Better, sometimes computer didn't crash, no more black screen and drivers reset, but blender sadly freeze completely so render stopped.

difference in render on my scene, 20 sec 2.82, 13:35 sec 2.83 LTS (newly downloaded and clean install without any external plugin)

Here the scene we use. But with 2.82a no problem.

Spaceship_TEST_CRASH_.7z

Added subscriber: @brecht

@brecht , Let me know if we can help in any others way.
Ciao!

Hello again,
just for info, we also tested 2.90 (blender-2.90.0-52b125a790e3) with Junk shop rtx.
After some previews, orbit around, ctrl+b etc etc, entire pc freeze. Need reboot.
Like before no problem at all with 2.82 (much more slow, but no crash).

Added subscriber: @Pastean_Narcis_Dan

blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Slight;;y the same issue here also. After windows 20.04 update it started to happen to me also, no matter if i use 2.83.1 or 2.90 on a small default cube scene viewport i get an OpenCL error and on bigger scenes the whole GPU driver crashes

tried different versions of AMD drivers but with no change, also some versions caused blender to freeze or BSOD on my system while rendering second of third tile usualy.

Since i`m dual booting Windows and Kubuntu, i have no issues with linux blender using the latest amd drivers. Maybe it has something to do with the GPU scheduler the latest update introduced.

Hi all, i'm testing new enterprise drivers, and they seems to work... ye some crash on old scene but not always..

https:*drivers.amd.com/drivers/prographics/win10-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-20.q2.1-june24.exe

@Dan_P. try it.

Added subscriber: @Kryztoval

I have been recently getting this error, here is what I have found so far:

I am running:
Steam Blender 2.83.2
Windows 10 v2004
2x Duke GTX1080 SLI Bridged with SLI Disabled
64GB ram
i7 6700k

My system has been running for a while with and without OC, so I know the OC is not the problem. Also, nothing else crashes, only Blender

What I noticed is that if I go to the default file with the cube, set cycles as render, select only the GPU that has a display connected, and I enable Cycles in the viewport it definitively doesn't crash

What makes it crash is when i select the other GPU that has no displays connected to it, it will just freeze blender until it gets killed or terminated by windows. It doesn't matter if I chose the main gpu or not, as long as the secondary gpu is selected and used in the viewport render it will halt. This (as a pure guess) seems to be a context switching error that only happens when using a secondary gpu core.

I was able to reproduce this in another computer running a GTX1070 and a GTX1080ti, but in that case the GPU that won't load the context was the one with the display

This is the error I keep getting, and this is the behaviour i keep seeing

CUDA error: Unknown error in cuCtxSynchronize(), line 1945

Refer to the Cycles GPU rendering documentation for possible solutions:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html

CUDA error at cuCtxCreate: Unknown error

Refer to the Cycles GPU rendering documentation for possible solutions:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html

CUDA error: Invalid value in cuCtxDestroy(cuContext), line 268
CUDA error: Unknown error in cuGraphicsUnregisterResource(pmem.cuPBOresource), line 2125

It seems to reason that, if this is the case, any GPU that has multiple contexts or that requires the set up of multiple contexts in order to render will also make blender crash in viewport cycles rendering.

Please someone test if connecting a display to the secondary GPU solves the issue. Upgrading drivers did not fix this.
I will do a few more tests on my own, as most people reported, CPU cycles rendering did not crash.

Now if you are gonna tell me this is an error with drivers, hardware, etc. Then can you explain to me why this happens disregarding if the GPU is AMD or nVidia? it is not like AMD has a cuda context.

I have been recently getting this error, here is what I have found so far: I am running: Steam Blender 2.83.2 Windows 10 v2004 2x Duke GTX1080 SLI Bridged with SLI Disabled 64GB ram i7 6700k My system has been running for a while with and without OC, so I know the OC is not the problem. Also, nothing else crashes, only Blender What I noticed is that if I go to the default file with the cube, set cycles as render, select only the GPU that has a display connected, and I enable Cycles in the viewport it definitively doesn't crash What makes it crash is when i select the other GPU that has no displays connected to it, it will just freeze blender until it gets killed or terminated by windows. It doesn't matter if I chose the main gpu or not, as long as the secondary gpu is selected and used in the viewport render it will halt. This (as a pure guess) seems to be a context switching error that only happens when using a secondary gpu core. I was able to reproduce this in another computer running a GTX1070 and a GTX1080ti, but in that case the GPU that won't load the context was the one with the display This is the error I keep getting, and this is the behaviour i keep seeing ``` CUDA error: Unknown error in cuCtxSynchronize(), line 1945 Refer to the Cycles GPU rendering documentation for possible solutions: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html CUDA error at cuCtxCreate: Unknown error Refer to the Cycles GPU rendering documentation for possible solutions: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/gpu_rendering.html CUDA error: Invalid value in cuCtxDestroy(cuContext), line 268 CUDA error: Unknown error in cuGraphicsUnregisterResource(pmem.cuPBOresource), line 2125 ``` It seems to reason that, if this is the case, any GPU that has multiple contexts or that requires the set up of multiple contexts in order to render will also make blender crash in viewport cycles rendering. Please someone test if connecting a display to the secondary GPU solves the issue. Upgrading drivers did not fix this. I will do a few more tests on my own, as most people reported, CPU cycles rendering did not crash. Now if you are gonna tell me this is an error with drivers, hardware, etc. Then can you explain to me why this happens disregarding if the GPU is AMD or nVidia? it is not like AMD has a cuda context.

Added subscriber: @verrafa

Hard to find a solution for that in the net.

I have a rtx 2070 super and a 980ti with an ryzen 9, and everything worked fine in Cycles with both GPUs until the last windows 2004 update.
Now i am only able to see the rendered viewport on my 2070, which has also the display connected.
When i try to view the viewport in render mode on my 980 it crashes after 1 sec. also tried the tdiDelay and tdiDdiDelay (60). https://docs.substance3d.com/spdoc/gpu-drivers-crash-with-long-computations-128745489.html
But didnt it work.

Cpu mode doesn't crash.
I also tested your suggestion and plugged the monitor to the secondary graphics card (980 ti) but it crashes. When i try to render it runs fine and uses both graphicscards.

Does any body know whats going on? I can pretty much say it was the damn windows update. Because before the update it bought also a new mainboard and it ran also fine with both graphics cards. Even with big files it was flawlesly stable.

But now the viewport render view is broken for me.
Please help.

Added subscriber: @guidobruzadin

just added a comment with my solution to this issue maybe it is also related to this one:
https://developer.blender.org/T74883

Also in the comments:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/hardware-accelerated-gpu-scheduling/#comment-194

It seems this feature requres an onboard hardware scheduler. So my 980 ti does not support it. Thats the reason why:

See:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/grwe8y/will_900_series_support_hardwareaccelerated_gpu/

So i dont think it is a bug in blender, maybe the error message should be better in this case

Let's stick to AMD issues only this bug report, any issues with NVIDIA are almost certainly a different problem.

Added subscriber: @Mickaa

Experiencing the same issue with Gigabyte RX 5700 XT

system-info.txt

Added subscriber: @jshlxx

Same Issue with Gigabyte 5700 non-XT
with 2.83.4 and 2.90

Every Driver after 20.4.2 locks up my system completely, but everything works fine with 20.4.2.

Still the same issue on latest Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.8.1 for Gigabyte RX 5700 XT and blender version 2.83.4.

system-info.txt

Removed subscriber: @verrafa

The problem is with the Adrenalin drivers. If you uninstall them and install the "Radeon Pro Software for Enterprise Driver" the viewport render will work.

This is the more stable driver of the two and is especially designed for content creators. There is a minor difference between performance with gaming but its negligible. These will have to do until the Adrenalin drivers are stable.

Added subscriber: @Wolfeius

Exact same issue, with blender 2.83.4 from Steam and AMD 5600XT, Radeon software V20.8.1.

Crashes and exits to windows while compilling render kernels either in viewport or in the render screen. With the CPU works fine, games work fine.

Just open a new project and click on the Shadded viewport OR F12, and it crashes while compilling render kernels.

Not really blender, but perhaps helpfull, GPU global lighting bakes also fail in Unity 3D 2020.1

Added subscribers: @Sajunara, @ChristopherAnderssarian, @kingsushi001, @REYNEP

Hi,
Topic https://developer.blender.org/T79628 was moved here, so:
I installed: win10-radeon-software-adrenalin-2020-edition-20.4.2-may25 - still crash in kernels

on win10-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-20.q2.1-june24 i have a luck but render looks like this (but no blender crash):
but i was writing this post and render change into that :):):):):):) - so its progress FINALLY

And Finnaly with no blender crash

win10-radeon-software-adrenalin-2020-edition-20.4.2-may25 - CRASH
win10-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-20.q2.1-june24 - WORKING on RX5700 XT - YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here are my results on 20.8.1, steps to reproduce are the same
blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Last working drivers are 20.4.2 but with artifacts in large scenes. Will test enterprise Drivers now and report back.

Sadly Pro Drivers only work when a simple Default Cube is rendered, as soon as i render a larger scene my viewport is black as seen here

It will get stuck on Sample 32 and crash after about 30 Seconds

blender_debug_output.txt

blender_system_info.txt
version: 2.90.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2020-08-09 12:07, hash: 00162e6b7b, type: Release

EDIT

Found the culprit why the render is black, Volumes don't seem to work with the enterprise driver it will still crash after compiling render kernels, every other scene without volume bsdf works fine!
Seems like the enterprise drivers should be recommended, and i thing brecht updated the wiki for it already.

Should i put a seperate bug report for the Volumes not working with the enterprise driver?

i had the same as Josh Luchs (jshgdmn), but it was only at the first time. It looks there is a problem with loading shaders or something. I reply render 1-2 times and was fine. Im not sure why, stil testing - but it was a small headphones scene.

I put bigger scene and there u go:

wireframe view
solid view
viewport render
material prewiev
f12 render and CRASH (shit!!!!), repeat again and ????? Crash

There is no problem with ram:

DEBUG:
blender_system_info.txt
blender_debug_output.txt

i was trying with headphones and its still working :)

BMW demo scene - looks fine - no crash :)
Material Preview
f12 -

Any1 ? :):):):):):):)

In #75319#992457, @Mickaa wrote:
The problem is with the Adrenalin drivers. If you uninstall them and install the "Radeon Pro Software for Enterprise Driver" the viewport render will work.

This is the more stable driver of the two and is especially designed for content creators. There is a minor difference between performance with gaming but its negligible. These will have to do until the Adrenalin drivers are stable.

Enterprise driver works better, less crash, but when you work on blender 12/24, crash occurs anyway :(

In a while we throw out of the window all ours AMD gpu... (radeon pro duo 32gb, 2x 5700xt, 4x 580, and so on...
and switched on Cuda, so no problem :(
Even Davinci Resolve go faster.. no way.. I love AMD, but we need to work no stop... and their drivers are ****

Good luck with Amd.

so we wait - f****k :(:((:(

Removed subscriber: @Insertcoin.tv

Guys dont forget to send a bugreport to AMD aswell, maybe they can help solve the issue AMD Bug Report

Done already, now we can wait for better times and updates :) its good that GW2 isn't crashing. XDXDXD. See you in Tyria :)

Added subscriber: @miro32

Downloaded bender 2.83.5 and the new Adrenalin 2020 Edition Adrenalin drivers 20.8.2 for 5700XT and seems to be fixed. I can now change view-port to rendered with Cycles renderer and not crash. Blender release notes and AMD driver notes does not say anything about a "blender fix" but they are both working in harmony once again.

EDIT: Forgot to enable GPU compute. When I did it crashed again...Oh well back to enterprise drivers then.

Actually i tested blender 2.83.5 and the new adrenaline with factory reset on my RX580 and no crashes yet, works great on my scene. 14 min render time on 20.4.2 drivers and 5 min render time on 20.8.2, its an improvement in terms of stability. However in Linux the same scene renders in 43 seconds so ...... yea AMD card wont get love anymore, maybe one everything transisions to Vulkan

In #75319#999339, @Pastean_Narcis_Dan wrote:
Actually i tested blender 2.83.5 and the new adrenaline with factory reset on my RX580 and no crashes yet, works great on my scene. 14 min render time on 20.4.2 drivers and 5 min render time on 20.8.2, its an improvement in terms of stability. However in Linux the same scene renders in 43 seconds so ...... yea AMD card wont get love anymore, maybe one everything transisions to Vulkan

Did you use GPU Compute? Asking because just like Michael (mneivandt), mine crashes as well with the same GPU and Adrenalin drivers 20.8.2.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that when you switch over to GPU in the viewport that there's no lighting?

In #75319#999620, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#999339, @Pastean_Narcis_Dan wrote:
Actually i tested blender 2.83.5 and the new adrenaline with factory reset on my RX580 and no crashes yet, works great on my scene. 14 min render time on 20.4.2 drivers and 5 min render time on 20.8.2, its an improvement in terms of stability. However in Linux the same scene renders in 43 seconds so ...... yea AMD card wont get love anymore, maybe one everything transisions to Vulkan

Did you use GPU Compute? Asking because just like Michael (mneivandt), mine crashes as well with the same GPU and Adrenalin drivers 20.8.2.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that when you switch over to GPU in the viewport that there's no lighting?

Yes, for a regular exterior archviz scene, the above mentioned works, however after a while and further adding complexity to the scene in terms of effects like a different ligning envoirment and more artifical lights, the driver crashes.
For me its an improvemnt but not stable. Thank god i started using Linux a few month ago other wise now there was no way for me the gpu render any scene.

In #75319#999804, @Pastean_Narcis_Dan wrote:

In #75319#999620, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#999339, @Pastean_Narcis_Dan wrote:
Actually i tested blender 2.83.5 and the new adrenaline with factory reset on my RX580 and no crashes yet, works great on my scene. 14 min render time on 20.4.2 drivers and 5 min render time on 20.8.2, its an improvement in terms of stability. However in Linux the same scene renders in 43 seconds so ...... yea AMD card wont get love anymore, maybe one everything transisions to Vulkan

Did you use GPU Compute? Asking because just like Michael (mneivandt), mine crashes as well with the same GPU and Adrenalin drivers 20.8.2.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that when you switch over to GPU in the viewport that there's no lighting?

Yes, for a regular exterior archviz scene, the above mentioned works, however after a while and further adding complexity to the scene in terms of effects like a different ligning envoirment and more artifical lights, the driver crashes.
For me its an improvemnt but not stable. Thank god i started using Linux a few month ago other wise now there was no way for me the gpu render any scene.

lol, you're lucky... I tried Blender's default scene and it crashes.

In #75319#999805, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#999804, @Pastean_Narcis_Dan wrote:

In #75319#999620, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#999339, @Pastean_Narcis_Dan wrote:
Actually i tested blender 2.83.5 and the new adrenaline with factory reset on my RX580 and no crashes yet, works great on my scene. 14 min render time on 20.4.2 drivers and 5 min render time on 20.8.2, its an improvement in terms of stability. However in Linux the same scene renders in 43 seconds so ...... yea AMD card wont get love anymore, maybe one everything transisions to Vulkan

Did you use GPU Compute? Asking because just like Michael (mneivandt), mine crashes as well with the same GPU and Adrenalin drivers 20.8.2.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that when you switch over to GPU in the viewport that there's no lighting?

Yes, for a regular exterior archviz scene, the above mentioned works, however after a while and further adding complexity to the scene in terms of effects like a different ligning envoirment and more artifical lights, the driver crashes.
For me its an improvemnt but not stable. Thank god i started using Linux a few month ago other wise now there was no way for me the gpu render any scene.

lol, you're lucky... I tried Blender's default scene and it crashes.

Same here. Blender 2.83.5 and AMD 20.8.2 and crashes with GPU Compute on both the viewport and render "/

Should we return the cards instead?

This comment was removed by @Mickaa

Here are some more Reports #80108 and #80092
Both are running the latest 20.8.2 Drivers.

It seems to be affecting the whole GCN1 and RDNA1 Generation. It has to be a Driver Problem right?

Added subscriber: @SirKadachi

Same problem is occurring for me on my non XT RX 5700 when trying to render in cycles. As far as I known it seems to be an AMD driver issue as the issue persists on any version higher than 20.5.1. The current driver I'm using is the 20.8.2 with Blender 2.83.5. Seems to be an issue that occurs during the compiling render kernels stage, which results in a crash of the entire application.

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Added subscriber: @EddoWagt

I want to add to this topic.
I've tried my RX 480 and RX 5700(XT bios), both are not working.
On Radeon settings 20.7.1 and 20.8.3 neither are working, sometimes it get just white like this{F8846987} (For reference, this is what it is supposed to look like )
while other times Blender just crashes after a while.
On Radeon settings 20.5.1 HWS from Guru3D the viewport rendering works, but F12 is still broken for me.
I haven't tried, but I'm going to assume older drivers work just fine, also, the Radeon ProRenderer works perfectly on any driver version.

The issue is obviously driver related, but it's still weird...

Edit: I forgot to add that I also have the same issue with my Manjaro Linux, I guess AMD really messed up, or there's something wrong with my computer

Added subscriber: @Diogo_Valadares

Added subscriber: @geralt-of-trivia

I have a RX580 and I also have this problem. While using Cycles with OpenCL on the GPU, my PC BOSDs.

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Added subscriber: @HILLARIOUS

Is anyone actually looking at this problem? Because this piece of fuck trash AMD calls a GPU is going back. Going back to NVidia

Removed subscriber: @Kryztoval

In #75319#1017323, @kingsushi001 wrote:
Is anyone actually looking at this problem? Because this piece of fuck trash AMD calls a GPU is going back. Going back to NVidia

I agree! He's not worth his money! -35-40% of the cost! I would like to return the money, and the 2nd graphics card! Nobody cares as we can see ... Nobody cares about AMD driver developers. Everyone is busy with new products ...

Added subscriber: @Hendrik.D

Hi Guys,
very similar Problem for me too, I've got some random crashes with cycles seem like, for me the sample count is important with 128s@1080p that's fine, but with 1024s@1080p it's just a matter of time till blender crashes, sometimes the AMD driver only, sometimes the complete system.
It's very annoying and not matter which blender version, it's the same for me...
Somebody can confirm the sample count dependency? Any News or Workaround at least?

System:
Win10 (v2004),
FX-8320E,
16GB RAM,
RX 480 (v20.8.2),

If anyone is having problems like these the only solution for now is to try to revert the drivers to the last stable ones(20.4.2)

In #75319#1017997, @Diogo_Valadares wrote:
If anyone is having problems like these the only solution for now is to try to revert the drivers to the last stable ones(20.4.2)

Thanks for the answer, but this driver is producing the following error...
https://developer.blender.org/T77095
I will give 20.5.1 a try

maybe this "fix" only include AMD video cards from this generation then.

Probably, for me atm Blender 2.9 is working with driver version 20.5.1 .

But soo much slower than v2.8 or 2.9beta, that's kinda strange.
BWM Benchmark:
v2.8 #4.01.68
v2.9beta T03.10.81
v2.9 #5.46.43

Did anyone try the 20.9.1 driver?

In #75319#1019603, @Diogo_Valadares wrote:
Did anyone try the 20.9.1 driver?

Yes, I did. Don't waste your time. It's still not working.

Can confirm 20.9.1 not working on RX5700

RX 5700 XT - Crash blender 2.9 on 20.9.1 drivers......................

Added subscriber: @Doidero

Added subscriber: @dstiglitz

RX 5700 XT - Blender 2.82a and 2.9 on 20.9.2, both still fucked

It's incredible.. That thing is cutting out tons of AMD customers.. Someone must do something, urgently

In #75319#1026029, @dstiglitz wrote:
It's incredibile.. That thing is cutting out tons of AMD customers.. Someone must do something, urgently

At this point I kind of feel like AMD's attitude is "We have their money, fuck them"

In #75319#1026048, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#1026029, @dstiglitz wrote:
It's incredibile.. That thing is cutting out tons of AMD customers.. Someone must do something, urgently

At this point I kind of feel like AMD's attitude is "We have their money, fuck them"

I agree! I have been using only AMD for 15 years, but when I reach the top segment and feel "Indifference", this is not something that is not pleasant ... This, gkh! ... If nothing is decided by the end of 2020, then it was AMD's last support...

@kingsushi001 @Mulock_666 Please keep it civil and on-topic, this is the official bug tracker, not a forum to discuss shortcomings of different GPU vendors.

at this point im no longer amd fan, 3 months and useless gfx gard. Cant do anything in blender. Maybe they dont want to fix that because we need to use ProRender engine with different nodes system. Now for the same money we can buy nvidia 3060 series with optix or cuda,

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Sorry for the duplicate bug report, I thought mine was a little different as mine closes in the final render (f12). I could add some info on the matter. When pressing render and waiting for it to reach compiling render kernals if I press esc to manually close the render then re render - it renders with no issue as if the kernals where already compiled and doesnt close blender

@elliotgascoigne I see, based on the description I thought this was the same issue.

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Okay everyone that has a 5700XT I found a work around that results in no hang/closing of blender and instant renders using GPU. Firstly I installed the AMD enterprise driver here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-pro-win-20-q3-1

(This shouldn't effect gaming performance)

This next bit I only advise if you have worked with registry keys before as they can mess up your windows so please don't proceed if you are unsure.

You need to follow Verrafa's guide on disabling GPU scheduling (thank you @verrafa) , but for me the option wasn't there so see below for how I fixed it.

In #75319#989617, @verrafa wrote:
just added a comment with my solution to this issue maybe it is also related to this one:
https://developer.blender.org/T74883

For me I had to create my own registry key which I did by following this guide: https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/07/07/enable-windows-10-hardware-accelerated-gpu-scheduling/#:~:text=Open%20Start%20Menu%20and%20tap,%2Daccelerated%20GPU%20scheduling%E2%80%9D%20option.

You have to actually create a DWORD registry if it doesn't show up in the place specified (Decimal mode with exactly the same name) set it to 1 and restart your machine.

I say again please don't do this if you are unsure with registry keys as I don't want to be responsible for breaking your windows! But this solution worked for me and I can switch to GPU rendering in cycles and it begins right away without stalling and ultimately crashing on compiling render kernels!

I hope it helps!

EDIT: On more complex scenes the render kernels take a minute or so to compute but it doesn't crash blender. I'm not sure how necessary the GPU scheduling step is in this case, you may be okay with just the enterprise driver

In #75319#1030507, @elliotgascoigne wrote:
Okay everyone that has a 5700XT I found a work around that results in no hang/closing of blender and instant renders using GPU. Firstly I installed the AMD enterprise driver here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-pro-win-20-q3-1

(This shouldn't effect gaming performance)

This next bit I only advise if you have worked with registry keys before as they can mess up your windows so please don't proceed if you are unsure.

You need to follow Verrafa's guide on disabling GPU scheduling (thank you @verrafa) , but for me the option wasn't there so see below for how I fixed it.

In #75319#989617, @verrafa wrote:
just added a comment with my solution to this issue maybe it is also related to this one:
https://developer.blender.org/T74883

For me I had to create my own registry key which I did by following this guide: https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/07/07/enable-windows-10-hardware-accelerated-gpu-scheduling/#:~:text=Open%20Start%20Menu%20and%20tap,%2Daccelerated%20GPU%20scheduling%E2%80%9D%20option.

You have to actually create a DWORD registry if it doesn't show up in the place specified (Decimal mode with exactly the same name) set it to 1 and restart your machine.

I say again please don't do this if you are unsure with registry keys as I don't want to be responsible for breaking your windows! But this solution worked for me and I can switch to GPU rendering in cycles and it begins right away without stalling and ultimately crashing on compiling render kernels!

I hope it helps!

EDIT: On more complex scenes the render kernels take a minute or so to compute but it doesn't crash blender. I'm not sure how necessary the GPU scheduling step is in this case, you may be okay with just the enterprise driver

Thanks for this. Before I go and test this, does this fix the viewport rendering as well? You know, when switching from Solid to Rendered.

EDIT: Never mind, this didn't work at all for me. Not in Blender 2.82a or in 2.90. Couldn't switch viewport rendering or render the default cube scene. Crashes every time.

> In #75319#1030507, @elliotgascoigne wrote: > Okay everyone that has a 5700XT I found a work around that results in no hang/closing of blender and instant renders using GPU. Firstly I installed the AMD enterprise driver here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-pro-win-20-q3-1 > > (This shouldn't effect gaming performance) > > This next bit I only advise if you have worked with registry keys before as they can mess up your windows so please don't proceed if you are unsure. > > You need to follow Verrafa's guide on disabling GPU scheduling (thank you @verrafa) , but for me the option wasn't there so see below for how I fixed it. > > >> In #75319#989617, @verrafa wrote: >> just added a comment with my solution to this issue maybe it is also related to this one: >> https://developer.blender.org/T74883 > > > For me I had to create my own registry key which I did by following this guide: https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/07/07/enable-windows-10-hardware-accelerated-gpu-scheduling/#:~:text=Open%20Start%20Menu%20and%20tap,%2Daccelerated%20GPU%20scheduling%E2%80%9D%20option. > > You have to actually create a DWORD registry if it doesn't show up in the place specified (Decimal mode with exactly the same name) set it to 1 and restart your machine. > > I say again please don't do this if you are unsure with registry keys as I don't want to be responsible for breaking your windows! But this solution worked for me and I can switch to GPU rendering in cycles and it begins right away without stalling and ultimately crashing on compiling render kernels! > > I hope it helps! > > EDIT: On more complex scenes the render kernels take a minute or so to compute but it doesn't crash blender. I'm not sure how necessary the GPU scheduling step is in this case, you may be okay with just the enterprise driver Thanks for this. Before I go and test this, does this fix the viewport rendering as well? You know, when switching from Solid to Rendered. EDIT: Never mind, this didn't work at all for me. Not in Blender 2.82a or in 2.90. Couldn't switch viewport rendering or render the default cube scene. Crashes every time.

Scenes with no volume are well managed by enterprise drivers. If you instead use a Principle Volume node in any mesh, then Blender freezes also with enterprise drivers. I really wonder how it's possible.

In #75319#1031427, @dstiglitz wrote:
Scenes with no volume are well managed by enterprise drivers. If you instead use a Principle Volume node in any mesh, then Blender freezes also with enterprise drivers. I really wonder how it's possible.

You're lucky... Nothing I have tried have worked. At all. No specific set of drivers or registry edits. Nothing has worked. Blender ALWAYS freezes.

У меня есть вопрос, проблемы только с видеокартами в стоке, или в разгоне? У меня бывали проблемы с Ryzen и Rx460 после небольших разгонов. Как себя ведет в Blender видеокарта RX5700 , которая не разогнанная ?
I have a question, are there only problems with video cards in stock, or overclocking? I've had problems with Ryzen and Rx460 after minor overclocks. How does an RX5700 video card that is not overclocked behave in Blender?

My RX5700XT is not overclocked, blender is only working with drivers that are v20.4.2 and below, unless its a scene that contains volume, tho I think in this case this may not be a driver problem, its probably a blender problem since 2.83(?) as you can see in this task https://developer.blender.org/T78027

Added subscriber: @SilentMrDave

Forgot to indicate the versions RX5700XT and RX5700, is there an error on both cards? The theme was created using RX5700XT, the question with tests during overclocking remains in test mode for both video cards.

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Not exactly the same issue (AMD RX 460 2GB, drivers 20.9.2):

If the scene is extremely simple, like the default cube, after waiting for "loading render kernels" (if I do anything* during this message Blender crashes) the scene does render. It's slower than just the CPU, but it renders, and I can move the camera without causing a crash.
If the scene is more complex than a default cube, Blender (after some waiting) manages to get to the first sample, but it won't go any further. Again, doing anything* crashes Blender.

*Actually not anything: only actions that cause another rendering, like moving the camera, will crash Blender. For the second example, if I change render device to CPU, Blender will switch successfully without crashing.

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I hope AMD fixes this, I'm new to 3D and I bought the RX 5700 months ago in hopes of learning. Now its just a useless brick :(

Did everyone here send AMD a bug report as well?

I'm not a newbie, but I bought it with the hope of responsiveness and fixes, we really look forward to positive responses ... But I won't even think of advising AMD to anyone else. We are all waiting for a miracle. Sorry for the flood!

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I have an rx 5700 with amd drivers 20.9.2 and blender version 2.90.1 and blender just doesn't want to render with the gpu, so I'm stuck with cpu rendering, hopefully amd does something about this

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I also have the same problem, on the rx 5700 XT with the latest drivers installed. I made a report at AMD, I hope everyone here did. Let's hope it gets fixed as soon as possible.

I hope they are fixing this and performance will be good in render times. Many of us is tired about this situation but still with hope that somebody in AMD and Blender is reading posts here :) Best of LUCK for all users of AMD products :)

Saju

All this damn time, I personally lost money for the purchase, and I lose for every not made render, like most of the guys gathered here ... There is one question, why was AMD suddenly forgotten here? Can someone send them a link to the topic? Are there any facts that they are browsing the forum? How it works?

In #75319#1035942, @Mulock_666 wrote:
All this damn time, I personally lost money for the purchase, and I lose for every not made render, like most of the guys gathered here ... There is one question, why was AMD suddenly forgotten here? Can someone send them a link to the topic? Are there any facts that they are browsing the forum? How it works?

As far as I can tell, this is an AMD problem, not a Blender issue

Added subscriber: @Alejandro-Nevarez-Lucio

I've got the same problem since the release of the AMD new drivers, i've been just reading this thread, i've tried everything, and i have something weird besides the crash.

Sometimes (it is just random) when i hit render view with OpenCL the whole scene turns white materials, everything, the HDRI, textures, materials, it all goes white (even with factory reset default cube thing or complex scene) for a minute or two, then it crashes. This just happens from time to time, it usually just crashes when loading kernels finish.

It now happens with every latest blender version, even 2.83 LTS from windows store giving me always same problem.

I think it has something to do with Radeon Drivers, this same thing happened to me back in April, and the problem just went away with new AMD Drivers, now same thing i guess we'll have to wait for new AMD drivers and hope Blender works fine with them.

Just wanted to say i sometimes get a white scene (yes, white scene with shadows and everything, not white screen) something different from what i've read.

AMD Rx 5600 XT
Ryzen 5 3600
32GB ddr4 3000Mhz ram
750W Corsair 80+ Bronze power supply
and running on SSD m2

In #75319#1036046, @Alejandro-Nevarez-Lucio wrote:
I've got the same problem since the release of the AMD new drivers, i've been just reading this thread, i've tried everything, and i have something weird besides the crash.

Sometimes (it is just random) when i hit render view with OpenCL the whole scene turns white materials, everything, the HDRI, textures, materials, it all goes white (even with factory reset default cube thing or complex scene) for a minute or two, then it crashes. This just happens from time to time, it usually just crashes when loading kernels finish.

It now happens with every latest blender version, even 2.83 LTS from windows store giving me always same problem.

I think it has something to do with Radeon Drivers, this same thing happened to me back in April, and the problem just went away with new AMD Drivers, now same thing i guess we'll have to wait for new AMD drivers and hope Blender works fine with them.

Just wanted to say i sometimes get a white scene (yes, white scene with shadows and everything, not white screen) something different from what i've read.

AMD Rx 5600 XT
Ryzen 5 3600
32GB ddr4 3000Mhz ram
750W Corsair 80+ Bronze power supply
and running on SSD m2

I actually had the same issue before quite a few times! I thought it was just a bug, mine didn't crash, I just went back into material preview mode and back into rendered mode and that seemed to fix it. Sometimes I had to restart blender though. But what's even weirder is that even rolling back to a driver version that I'm sure worked fine now doesn't work even if I factory reset the drivers

In #75319#1036081, @elliotgascoigne wrote:

In #75319#1036046, @Alejandro-Nevarez-Lucio wrote:
I've got the same problem since the release of the AMD new drivers, i've been just reading this thread, i've tried everything, and i have something weird besides the crash.

Sometimes (it is just random) when i hit render view with OpenCL the whole scene turns white materials, everything, the HDRI, textures, materials, it all goes white (even with factory reset default cube thing or complex scene) for a minute or two, then it crashes. This just happens from time to time, it usually just crashes when loading kernels finish.

It now happens with every latest blender version, even 2.83 LTS from windows store giving me always same problem.

I think it has something to do with Radeon Drivers, this same thing happened to me back in April, and the problem just went away with new AMD Drivers, now same thing i guess we'll have to wait for new AMD drivers and hope Blender works fine with them.

Just wanted to say i sometimes get a white scene (yes, white scene with shadows and everything, not white screen) something different from what i've read.

AMD Rx 5600 XT
Ryzen 5 3600
32GB ddr4 3000Mhz ram
750W Corsair 80+ Bronze power supply
and running on SSD m2

I actually had the same issue before quite a few times! I thought it was just a bug, mine didn't crash, I just went back into material preview mode and back into rendered mode and that seemed to fix it. Sometimes I had to restart blender though. But what's even weirder is that even rolling back to a driver version that I'm sure worked fine now doesn't work even if I factory reset the drivers

I have tried EVERY workaround posted here and everywhere else. None of the drivers work for me. Not the adrenaline ones or the pro drivers of any version.

I am seriously starting to think that AMD really just don't care. I've submitted numerous bug reports to AMD as well, they never get back to you or fix the issue. I've been having problems for about 2-3 months and I'm sure there's people here who has been waiting even longer. This was my 1st AMD card, sure as hell my last.

> In #75319#1036081, @elliotgascoigne wrote: >> In #75319#1036046, @Alejandro-Nevarez-Lucio wrote: >> I've got the same problem since the release of the AMD new drivers, i've been just reading this thread, i've tried everything, and i have something weird besides the crash. >> >> Sometimes (it is just random) when i hit render view with OpenCL the whole scene turns white materials, everything, the HDRI, textures, materials, it all goes white (even with factory reset default cube thing or complex scene) for a minute or two, then it crashes. This just happens from time to time, it usually just crashes when loading kernels finish. >> >> It now happens with every latest blender version, even 2.83 LTS from windows store giving me always same problem. >> >> I think it has something to do with Radeon Drivers, this same thing happened to me back in April, and the problem just went away with new AMD Drivers, now same thing i guess we'll have to wait for new AMD drivers and hope Blender works fine with them. >> >> Just wanted to say i sometimes get a white scene (yes, white scene with shadows and everything, not white screen) something different from what i've read. >> >> AMD Rx 5600 XT >> Ryzen 5 3600 >> 32GB ddr4 3000Mhz ram >> 750W Corsair 80+ Bronze power supply >> and running on SSD m2 > > I actually had the same issue before quite a few times! I thought it was just a bug, mine didn't crash, I just went back into material preview mode and back into rendered mode and that seemed to fix it. Sometimes I had to restart blender though. But what's even weirder is that even rolling back to a driver version that I'm sure worked fine now doesn't work even if I factory reset the drivers I have tried EVERY workaround posted here and everywhere else. None of the drivers work for me. Not the adrenaline ones or the pro drivers of any version. I am seriously starting to think that AMD really just don't care. I've submitted numerous bug reports to AMD as well, they never get back to you or fix the issue. I've been having problems for about 2-3 months and I'm sure there's people here who has been waiting even longer. This was my 1st AMD card, sure as hell my last.

In #75319#1036046, @Alejandro-Nevarez-Lucio wrote:
I've got the same problem since the release of the AMD new drivers, i've been just reading this thread, i've tried everything, and i have something weird besides the crash.

Sometimes (it is just random) when i hit render view with OpenCL the whole scene turns white materials, everything, the HDRI, textures, materials, it all goes white (even with factory reset default cube thing or complex scene) for a minute or two, then it crashes. This just happens from time to time, it usually just crashes when loading kernels finish.

It now happens with every latest blender version, even 2.83 LTS from windows store giving me always same problem.

I think it has something to do with Radeon Drivers, this same thing happened to me back in April, and the problem just went away with new AMD Drivers, now same thing i guess we'll have to wait for new AMD drivers and hope Blender works fine with them.

Just wanted to say i sometimes get a white scene (yes, white scene with shadows and everything, not white screen) something different from what i've read.

AMD Rx 5600 XT
Ryzen 5 3600
32GB ddr4 3000Mhz ram
750W Corsair 80+ Bronze power supply
and running on SSD m2

Today while making some 3D stuff got a flash on blender then it crashed, now i tried once again to render after this weird flash and i'm getting this error "OpenCL error (-52): CL_INVALID_KERNEL ARGS in clEnqueueNDRangeKernel" After a few seconds when this shows up, blender crashes.

Something new and different from the old problem.

For people who want to render now there is a solution. Pro Render. Im to lazy to make a new nodes that is why im waiting for cycles working, but still. https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-prorender-blender - Its working, rendering but own node system or old one, before principled bsdf nodes

Its just another render engine.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=355sBBql6Rk

Hope i helped.... may the force be with you

Saju

Render Engines for Blener: https://www.blendernation.com/2020/08/03/overview-of-free-blender-renderers/#prettyPhoto

VFX explained: https://youtu.be/dE4g7sdNbi4

Renderman from PIXAR: https://renderman.pixar.com/product
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3vPJybuG9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKh2taqONg8

Regards, Saju

Anyone try the 20.10.1 drivers yet? Doubt it'll work, but probably worth a shot.

In #75319#1037474, @kingsushi001 wrote:
Anyone try the 20.10.1 drivers yet? Doubt it'll work, but probably worth a shot.

I just updated to give it a try. Unfortunately the problem is still there.

I've tried the pro drivers Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise Revision Number 20.Q3.1 on my rx 5700 XT and cycles are working fine.
Also, when I've installed the new driver I did a factory reset of the card.
I have not tested the drivers to see if it affects gaming performance.

Link: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

I hope this helps some of you.

In #75319#1037603, @MihaiPlesa wrote:
I've tried the pro drivers Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise Revision Number 20.Q3.1 on my rx 5700 XT and cycles are working fine.
Also, when I've installed the new driver I did a factory reset of the card.
I have not tested the drivers to see if it affects gaming performance.

Link: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

I hope this helps some of you.

It's true. But if you try to add any type of volume mesh/shader and then open render viewport or try to render, then it will crash. Nothing changed and, probably, nothing will change in the future because of amd's policy.
Personally, and i'm sorry about it, i already bought a nvidia card. People need to work and that's not a correct way to do marketing from amd.

In #75319#1037611, @dstiglitz wrote:

In #75319#1037603, @MihaiPlesa wrote:
I've tried the pro drivers Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise Revision Number 20.Q3.1 on my rx 5700 XT and cycles are working fine.
Also, when I've installed the new driver I did a factory reset of the card.
I have not tested the drivers to see if it affects gaming performance.

Link: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

I hope this helps some of you.

It's true. But if you try to add any type of volume mesh/shader and then open render viewport or try to render, then it will crash. Nothing changed and, probably, nothing will change in the future because of amd's policy.
Personally, and i'm sorry about it, i already bought a nvidia card. People need to work and that's not a correct way to do marketing from amd.

Tested now and you are correct, it's crashing after adding new mesh/volume.
I'll definitely switch to nVidia after the launch of the 3070.

In #75319#1037611, @dstiglitz wrote:

In #75319#1037603, @MihaiPlesa wrote:
I've tried the pro drivers Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise Revision Number 20.Q3.1 on my rx 5700 XT and cycles are working fine.
Also, when I've installed the new driver I did a factory reset of the card.
I have not tested the drivers to see if it affects gaming performance.

Link: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

I hope this helps some of you.

It's true. But if you try to add any type of volume mesh/shader and then open render viewport or try to render, then it will crash. Nothing changed and, probably, nothing will change in the future because of amd's policy.
Personally, and i'm sorry about it, i already bought a nvidia card. People need to work and that's not a correct way to do marketing from amd.

Which AMD policy?

In #75319#1037666, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#1037611, @dstiglitz wrote:

In #75319#1037603, @MihaiPlesa wrote:
I've tried the pro drivers Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise Revision Number 20.Q3.1 on my rx 5700 XT and cycles are working fine.
Also, when I've installed the new driver I did a factory reset of the card.
I have not tested the drivers to see if it affects gaming performance.

Link: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

I hope this helps some of you.

It's true. But if you try to add any type of volume mesh/shader and then open render viewport or try to render, then it will crash. Nothing changed and, probably, nothing will change in the future because of amd's policy.
Personally, and i'm sorry about it, i already bought a nvidia card. People need to work and that's not a correct way to do marketing from amd.

Which AMD policy?

As someone said previously in this topic, amd replied that for working we should use the radeon pro series gpus and not the "normal" RX Vega/Navi gpus, that are supposed to be for gaming

In #75319#1037708, @dstiglitz wrote:

In #75319#1037666, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#1037611, @dstiglitz wrote:

In #75319#1037603, @MihaiPlesa wrote:
I've tried the pro drivers Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise Revision Number 20.Q3.1 on my rx 5700 XT and cycles are working fine.
Also, when I've installed the new driver I did a factory reset of the card.
I have not tested the drivers to see if it affects gaming performance.

Link: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

I hope this helps some of you.

It's true. But if you try to add any type of volume mesh/shader and then open render viewport or try to render, then it will crash. Nothing changed and, probably, nothing will change in the future because of amd's policy.
Personally, and i'm sorry about it, i already bought a nvidia card. People need to work and that's not a correct way to do marketing from amd.

Which AMD policy?

As someone said previously in this topic, amd replied that for working we should use the radeon pro series gpus and not the "normal" RX Vega/Navi gpus, that are supposed to be for gaming

Wow.... Just wow. Again, I will not be supporting them again. Ever. That's a very nice middle finger to their customers. I hope nVidia crushes them

Added subscriber: @hauser

Can confirm that this problem happens to me as well, using RX 5600 XT. I opened up an issue over at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1343.

Hi!
i just deinstalled the adrenalin driver, so i only have installed the newest chipset drivers and gp rendering with cycles and my 5700 XT works now!!!

In #75319#1040211, @Zodijac wrote:
Hi!
i just deinstalled the adrenalin driver, so i only have installed the newest chipset drivers and gp rendering with cycles and my 5700 XT works now!!!

Where can I find the chipset drivers @Zodijac ?

In #75319#1040211, @Zodijac wrote:
Hi!
i just deinstalled the adrenalin driver, so i only have installed the newest chipset drivers and gp rendering with cycles and my 5700 XT works now!!!

Nice, can you explain a bit more how you did everything? I'm a noob when it comes to this.

Added subscriber: @EmperadorFELES

Hello someone have solutions for the RX 5600 XT? @Zodijac could you help, please? And remove the drivers will be bad for games?

Added subscriber: @jin.veiss

This is all I want for Christmas...

Anyone who has encountered a problem is asked to send a bug report to AMD using the built-in function in the driver with the image of a bug in the upper right corner of the program

There is one more note, I came across a topic on the net where it was said that the "Game" mode in Win10 cuts performance in some video cards very much, and there is an RX 5xxx version there.
Someone came across, maybe it got better? In addition to all this, since there was a question about an error in Win10, how about our problem on Linux ?? Are there mistakes too?

Есть еще одно замечание, наткнулся в сети на тему, где говорилось, что "Игровой" режим в Win10 очень сильно режет производительность в некоторых видеокартах, и там есть RX 5xxx версии.
Кто то сталкивался, может стало лучше? Ко всему этому , раз образовался вопрос о ошибке в Win10 , то как с нашей проблемой на Linux ?? Тоже есть ошибки ?

On version 2.9.01 there are no changes, at the moment you can somehow see the picture and even try in a perverse way to work with ProRender, but there ...=(

Today I found a solution to the issue of speeding up the processor, installed the driver and decided to look at the Rx5700xt tab, and there I found the stock Pro driver! I cannot check at the moment.
Сегодня нашел решение вопроса по ускорению процессора, устанавливал драйвер и решил заглянуть на вкладку по Rx5700xt , а там я обнаружил стоковый Pro драйвер ! На данный момент проверить не могу.

No dice, however I didn't do the factory reset option on the card. Kernels just load forever until Blender crashes.

Added subscriber: @PoorManFury

I tried to install Pro driver, everything changed places! ProRender hangs, and Cycles renders only a standard scene, I will not leave it in this state, other programs require a normal driver. Try you.

Hooray! there are some results! And so, I have an Asrock AB350 Pro4 motherboard, in some of the articles I came across a solution to problems by correcting the BIOS of the motherboard, I decided to go in and look at the BIOS updates, they added as many as 5 versions there, installed the latest firmware version 6.4. Pro driver did not give results, I decided to install Adrenaline 20.1.2 (1 \ 13 \ 2020)! ProRender refused to work, and Cycles gave 3 minutes, Eve 2 seconds. but this is already progress, though I don't know what helped, driver rollback or BIOS update. tomorrow I will continue installing the drivers in turn. The driver for the RX5700xt was taken from here

Ура! есть какие-то результаты! И так, у меня материнская плата Asrock AB350 Pro4 , в какой то из статей наткнулся на решение проблем исправлением BIOS материнской платы, решил зайти и посмотреть на обновления BIOS, там добавили целых 5 версий, установил последнюю прошивку 6.4 версии. Pro драйвер не давал результатов, решил установить Адреналин 20.1.2 (1\13\2020) ! ProRender отказался работать, а Cycles дал результат в 3 минуты, Eve 2 секунды. но это уже прогресс, правда не знаю что помогло, откат драйвера либо обновление BIOS. завтра продолжу установку драйверов по очереди. Драйвер для RX5700xt брал отсюда https://www.amd.com/ru/support/previous-drivers/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

In #75319#1046613, @Mulock_666 wrote:
Hooray! there are some results! And so, I have an Asrock AB350 Pro4 motherboard, in some of the articles I came across a solution to problems by correcting the BIOS of the motherboard, I decided to go in and look at the BIOS updates, they added as many as 5 versions there, installed the latest firmware version 6.4. Pro driver did not give results, I decided to install Adrenaline 20.1.2 (1 \ 13 \ 2020)! ProRender refused to work, and Cycles gave 3 minutes, Eve 2 seconds. but this is already progress, though I don't know what helped, driver rollback or BIOS update. tomorrow I will continue installing the drivers in turn. The driver for the RX5700xt was taken from here

Ура! есть какие-то результаты! И так, у меня материнская плата Asrock AB350 Pro4 , в какой то из статей наткнулся на решение проблем исправлением BIOS материнской платы, решил зайти и посмотреть на обновления BIOS, там добавили целых 5 версий, установил последнюю прошивку 6.4 версии. Pro драйвер не давал результатов, решил установить Адреналин 20.1.2 (1\13\2020) ! ProRender отказался работать, а Cycles дал результат в 3 минуты, Eve 2 секунды. но это уже прогресс, правда не знаю что помогло, откат драйвера либо обновление BIOS. завтра продолжу установку драйверов по очереди. Драйвер для RX5700xt брал отсюда https://www.amd.com/ru/support/previous-drivers/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt

Awesome, so atleast you can now get a functional card. Please do tell if later drivers work with the bios. I do remember updating my bios a while ago, but am not sure whether or not that was around the same time cycles started to crash

> In #75319#1046613, @Mulock_666 wrote: > Hooray! there are some results! And so, I have an Asrock AB350 Pro4 motherboard, in some of the articles I came across a solution to problems by correcting the BIOS of the motherboard, I decided to go in and look at the BIOS updates, they added as many as 5 versions there, installed the latest firmware version 6.4. Pro driver did not give results, I decided to install Adrenaline 20.1.2 (1 \ 13 \ 2020)! ProRender refused to work, and Cycles gave 3 minutes, Eve 2 seconds. but this is already progress, though I don't know what helped, driver rollback or BIOS update. tomorrow I will continue installing the drivers in turn. The driver for the RX5700xt was taken from here > > Ура! есть какие-то результаты! И так, у меня материнская плата Asrock AB350 Pro4 , в какой то из статей наткнулся на решение проблем исправлением BIOS материнской платы, решил зайти и посмотреть на обновления BIOS, там добавили целых 5 версий, установил последнюю прошивку 6.4 версии. Pro драйвер не давал результатов, решил установить Адреналин 20.1.2 (1\13\2020) ! ProRender отказался работать, а Cycles дал результат в 3 минуты, Eve 2 секунды. но это уже прогресс, правда не знаю что помогло, откат драйвера либо обновление BIOS. завтра продолжу установку драйверов по очереди. Драйвер для RX5700xt брал отсюда https://www.amd.com/ru/support/previous-drivers/graphics/amd-radeon-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt Awesome, so atleast you can now get a functional card. Please do tell if later drivers work with the bios. I do remember updating my bios a while ago, but am not sure whether or not that was around the same time cycles started to crash

Version 20.1.4 (Working) Long responsive to switching render in the viewport
Версия 20.1.4 (Работает) Долго реагирует на переключение рендера во вьюпорте
(Body Color standart)
BMW: 128 semple

Cycles 0/12/19
ProRender 0/17/76

Version 20.1.3 Recommended WHQL ( ViewPort Nice)

BMW: 128 sample

Cycles 0.13.38 ViewPort Nice (Render body BLACK)

ProRender 0.47.23 ViewPort Nice

In #75319#1047004, @Mulock_666 wrote:
Version 20.1.3 Recommended WHQL ( ViewPort Nice)

BMW: 128 sample

Cycles 0.13.38 ViewPort Nice

ProRender 0.47.23 ViewPort Nice

And when using the Principled Volume node? Does it work then?

Version 20.2.1 ( Work )

BMW: 128 sample

Cycles 0.13.60 ( ViewPort Nice ) (Render body BLACK)

ProRender 0.14.93 ( ViewPort Nice )

In #75319#1047013, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#1047004, @Mulock_666 wrote:
Version 20.1.3 Recommended WHQL ( ViewPort Nice)

BMW: 128 sample

Cycles 0.13.38 ViewPort Nice

ProRender 0.47.23 ViewPort Nice

And when using the Principled Volume node? Does it work then?

Today I will conduct tests on all available versions (installation on top of the previous one), later we will try to dance ... True, the black body confuses me)))

Driver 20.4.2 was the latest that blender worked for me. Driver 20.5.1 and later seem to have the same problem in blender.

Edit: I have RX 5700XT, Ryzen 3700X on a X570 motherboard running 3200mhz RAM.

yea, blender is working fine with driver version 20.4.2., at least on my RX5700XT

And when using the Principled Volume node? Does it work then?

this one I don't think its AMD's blame, it's has been in blender since 2.83 as far as I'm aware of https://developer.blender.org/T78027, but I can also render scenes with volume fine as in blender 2.90.1, with random crashes if I change the nodes while rendering.

How does one rollback a GPU driver? I have a RX5700XT and I'm experiencing crashes.

In #75319#1047176, @Peeeynk wrote:
How does one rollback a GPU driver? I have a RX5700XT and I'm experiencing crashes.

You could just uninstall like other program or use DDU to uninstall if want to be sure. Then install the driver 20.4.2 from AMD site.

Added subscriber: @isaac.47

Hello everyone. I also had the same problem with my RX Radeon 5600XT card, the blender only caught me in the radeon 20.4.2 software version, currently I use blender 2.90.1.

I currently have Radeon software version 20.10.1.
with blender 2.90.1 and when using the blender GPU, it took a long time to load and closed.

a person recommended me something.
So I didn't lose anything by trying, I did it and they think the GPU of blender 2.90.1 with software version 20.10.1 takes me perfectly.

Я решил не выкладывать перечень по всем драйверам, и решил остановится на самом адекватно работающем драйвере, ниже моя система и некоторая информация теста. Cycles работает хорошо! ProRender Хорошо! В обоих движках рендер во вьюпорте работает хорошо и быстро реагирует! Черная краска BMW в предыдущих комментариях это выход на Displace , сразу этого не проверял было мало времени.
Вывод:

Ошибка драйвера от AMD!!
Обновите последний драйвер BIOS материнской платы, но будьте внимательны к комментариям обновления версии!
Установить драйвер не выше ""Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL)""
.......................................................................................................................
I decided not to post a list of all the drivers, and decided to stop at the most adequately working driver, below is my system and some test information. Cycles works well! ProRender Good! In both engines, the render in the viewport works well and is responsive! Black BMW paint in the previous comments is an exit on Displace, I didn't check it right away for a little time.
Conclusion:
AMD driver error !!
Update the latest motherboard BIOS driver, but watch out for version update comments!
Install the driver no higher ""Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL)""

In Blender 2.9.1
Asrock AB350 Pro4
Ryzen5 3600
16Gb DDR4
Asrock Rx5700xt Phantom Gaming
..............................................................................................

Version Driver : Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL) NICE WORK! FAST !

Я решил не выкладывать перечень по всем драйверам, и решил остановится на самом адекватно работающем драйвере, ниже моя система и некоторая информация теста. Cycles работает хорошо! ProRender Хорошо! В обоих движках рендер во вьюпорте работает хорошо и быстро реагирует! Черная краска BMW в предыдущих комментариях это выход на Displace , сразу этого не проверял было мало времени. Вывод: - Ошибка драйвера от AMD!! - Обновите последний драйвер BIOS материнской платы, но будьте внимательны к комментариям обновления версии! - Установить драйвер не выше ""Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL)"" ....................................................................................................................... I decided not to post a list of all the drivers, and decided to stop at the most adequately working driver, below is my system and some test information. Cycles works well! ProRender Good! In both engines, the render in the viewport works well and is responsive! Black BMW paint in the previous comments is an exit on Displace, I didn't check it right away for a little time. Conclusion: - AMD driver error !! - Update the latest motherboard BIOS driver, but watch out for version update comments! - Install the driver no higher ""Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL)"" In Blender 2.9.1 Asrock AB350 Pro4 Ryzen5 3600 16Gb DDR4 Asrock Rx5700xt Phantom Gaming .............................................................................................. Version Driver : Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL) NICE WORK! FAST !

the solution that they advised me is this.

Verify that Windows is up to date, but "Windows 10 Upgrade Wizard" helps you.

2 download the current drivers for the chipset and graphics card you have, but do not install it yet.

3 uninstall the drivers that you have installed for both the chipsets and the graphics card, I recommend a deep uninstallation, so that you do not have folders.

4 once everything is downloaded and uninstalled, disconnect from the internet, and there if you install chiptsets first and then graphics card.

5 once everything has been updated both computer and drivers, this part is crucial so pay attention "we crush" windows + r "so that we open the" run ". We put"% appdata% "once a window opens we look for" \ AppData \ Roaming \ Blender \ 2.90 \ cache \ kermels "and we eliminate. And voila you should take the GPU component of blender.

I uninstalled the latest drivers and installed "Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL)". I had to reload the scene a couple of times in order for everything to render but it works.

Added subscriber: @prxllx

I'm pretty sure that those problems are caused by the driver, I've tried 20.9.1 then rollback to 20.4.2 and yep 20.4.2 woks perfectly fine with volume nodes in Blender 2.90

My rig:
AsRock A320M-HDV
Ryzen5 2400G
RX 5500 XT
16GB DDR4

I have got respornse from AMD:

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Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Resolved'

I contacted the manufacturer of my 5600 XT (XFX) and they told me to return the card for a full refund. So i bought a new RTX 2060 from nVidia. All my problems were solved, and now the performance is extremely, extremely fast. Like 100x faster than what i was experiencing with the 5600XT, even on those brief moments when it actually worked. Error codes in Substance Painter also disspeared and I think some artifacts that were very common before no longer appear or do so much less often (still testing this bit). But overall is better, faster, even denoised is waaaay faster than the 5600 XT.

I had to reduce the viewport passes to 16, because 32 was just too slow with the 5600XT, with the nVidia RTX 2060 AND the viewport denoiser active (something VERY slow with the 5600 XT) is SO fast i can't even see the numbers as they go up to 32. The improvement should be at least 100 times faster.

Upgrading to the RTX 2060 was an absolute GAME-CHANGER, in terms of speed, quality, and features (like denoising or OptiX), albeit for about 40£ extra. Like other users have said before, don't waste any more time with the Radeon cards, AMD certainly isn't, as this has been going on for a year now. I can recommend the cheapest 2060 you can get, as it changed entirely my workflow. Its like Blender paradise.

why did you close this thread? it hasn't been resolved for those who still use amd

Changed status from 'Resolved' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

@Wolfeius Please don't close tickets that are not your own, especially when many users have confirmed the issue. Based on @Sajunara 's comment, AMD is working on a patch for their graphics driver.

In #75319#1049419, @Wolfeius wrote:
I contacted the manufacturer of my 5600 XT (XFX) and they told me to return the card for a full refund. So i bought a new RTX 2060 from nVidia. All my problems were solved, and now the performance is extremely, extremely fast. Like 100x faster than what i was experiencing with the 5600XT, even on those brief moments when it actually worked. Error codes in Substance Painter also disspeared and I think some artifacts that were very common before no longer appear or do so much less often (still testing this bit). But overall is better, faster, even denoised is waaaay faster than the 5600 XT.

I had to reduce the viewport passes to 16, because 32 was just too slow with the 5600XT, with the nVidia RTX 2060 AND the viewport denoiser active (something VERY slow with the 5600 XT) is SO fast i can't even see the numbers as they go up to 32. The improvement should be at least 100 times faster.

Upgrading to the RTX 2060 was an absolute GAME-CHANGER, in terms of speed, quality, and features (like denoising or OptiX), albeit for about 40£ extra. Like other users have said before, don't waste any more time with the Radeon cards, AMD certainly isn't, as this has been going on for a year now. I can recommend the cheapest 2060 you can get, as it changed entirely my workflow. Its like Blender paradise.

This is exactly what I did as well. Contacted XFX last week, got a full refund from the online shop I bought the 5700XT from and bought a RTX2060s. I should receive it by Monday or Tuesday.

If somebody are switching to nvidia consider 3070 Nvidia Card.
https://versus.com/en/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-super-vs-palit-geforce-rtx-3070-gamingpro

There is twice more CUDA and Optix will work like crazy. HOPE.

im waiting for driver update, i heard that amd is working on feature where cpu share resources with gpu and backwards, - will be shared resources. only thing is that you have both amd - cpu and gpu. info not confirmed but interesting.

Regards, Saju

In #75319#1049468, @Sajunara wrote:
If somebody are switching to nvidia consider 3070 Nvidia Card.
https://versus.com/en/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-super-vs-palit-geforce-rtx-3070-gamingpro

There is twice more CUDA and Optix will work like crazy. HOPE.

im waiting for driver update, i heard that amd is working on feature where cpu share resources with gpu and backwards, - will be shared resources. only thing is that you have both amd - cpu and gpu. info not confirmed but interesting.

Regards, Saju

Unfortunately that's not an option here in South Africa. Cheapest 3070 is like 1.5 times more than the 2060s

Unfortunately that's not an option here in South Africa. Cheapest 3070 is like 1.5 times more than the 2060s

In that case is good option. i were choseing betwen 5700 xt and 2060 Super.

In #75319#1049468, @Sajunara wrote:
If somebody are switching to nvidia consider 3070 Nvidia Card.
https://versus.com/en/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-super-vs-palit-geforce-rtx-3070-gamingpro

There is twice more CUDA and Optix will work like crazy. HOPE.

im waiting for driver update, i heard that amd is working on feature where cpu share resources with gpu and backwards, - will be shared resources. only thing is that you have both amd - cpu and gpu. info not confirmed but interesting.

Regards, Saju

Это будет работать только на Ryzen5000+ с новыми видеокартами Radeon 6xxx. О других совместимостях я не слышал. В ProRender Есть такая функция обработки CPU+GPU но она на данный момент даёт сбой, кажется что AMD готовится взорвать производительностью КОМПЛЕКСОМ своей системы, что очень разумный маркетинговый шаг на данном этапе событий. В целом мне жалко продавать Rx5700xt, но всё так резко изменилось, я уже год работаю в другой сфере деятельности из-за ошибок, но всё равно это сложно...Я всю жизнь использовал AMD комплектующие...

This will only work on Ryzen5000 + with newer Radeon 6xxx graphics cards. I have not heard about other compatibility. In ProRender there is such a function of processing CPU + GPU but it is currently malfunctioning, it seems that AMD is preparing to explode the performance of its system with a COMPLEX, which is a very reasonable marketing step at this stage of events. In general, I am sorry to sell the Rx5700xt, but everything has changed so dramatically, I have been working in another field of activity for a year due to errors, but still it's difficult ... I have used AMD components all my life ...

In #75319#1049432, @kingsushi001 wrote:

In #75319#1049419, @Wolfeius wrote:
I contacted the manufacturer of my 5600 XT (XFX) and they told me to return the card for a full refund. So i bought a new RTX 2060 from nVidia. All my problems were solved, and now the performance is extremely, extremely fast. Like 100x faster than what i was experiencing with the 5600XT, even on those brief moments when it actually worked. Error codes in Substance Painter also disspeared and I think some artifacts that were very common before no longer appear or do so much less often (still testing this bit). But overall is better, faster, even denoised is waaaay faster than the 5600 XT.

I had to reduce the viewport passes to 16, because 32 was just too slow with the 5600XT, with the nVidia RTX 2060 AND the viewport denoiser active (something VERY slow with the 5600 XT) is SO fast i can't even see the numbers as they go up to 32. The improvement should be at least 100 times faster.

Upgrading to the RTX 2060 was an absolute GAME-CHANGER, in terms of speed, quality, and features (like denoising or OptiX), albeit for about 40£ extra. Like other users have said before, don't waste any more time with the Radeon cards, AMD certainly isn't, as this has been going on for a year now. I can recommend the cheapest 2060 you can get, as it changed entirely my workflow. Its like Blender paradise.

This is exactly what I did as well. Contacted XFX last week, got a full refund from the online shop I bought the 5700XT from and bought a RTX2060s. I should receive it by Monday or Tuesday.

So it was possible ?! I don't think that this is possible in the Republic of Belarus = (But, I would like to return her to the store

> In #75319#1049468, @Sajunara wrote: > If somebody are switching to nvidia consider 3070 Nvidia Card. > https://versus.com/en/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-super-vs-palit-geforce-rtx-3070-gamingpro > > There is twice more CUDA and Optix will work like crazy. HOPE. > > im waiting for driver update, i heard that amd is working on feature where cpu share resources with gpu and backwards, - will be shared resources. only thing is that you have both amd - cpu and gpu. info not confirmed but interesting. > > Regards, Saju Это будет работать только на Ryzen5000+ с новыми видеокартами Radeon 6xxx. О других совместимостях я не слышал. В ProRender Есть такая функция обработки CPU+GPU но она на данный момент даёт сбой, кажется что AMD готовится взорвать производительностью КОМПЛЕКСОМ своей системы, что очень разумный маркетинговый шаг на данном этапе событий. В целом мне жалко продавать Rx5700xt, но всё так резко изменилось, я уже год работаю в другой сфере деятельности из-за ошибок, но всё равно это сложно...Я всю жизнь использовал AMD комплектующие... This will only work on Ryzen5000 + with newer Radeon 6xxx graphics cards. I have not heard about other compatibility. In ProRender there is such a function of processing CPU + GPU but it is currently malfunctioning, it seems that AMD is preparing to explode the performance of its system with a COMPLEX, which is a very reasonable marketing step at this stage of events. In general, I am sorry to sell the Rx5700xt, but everything has changed so dramatically, I have been working in another field of activity for a year due to errors, but still it's difficult ... I have used AMD components all my life ... > In #75319#1049432, @kingsushi001 wrote: >> In #75319#1049419, @Wolfeius wrote: >> I contacted the manufacturer of my 5600 XT (XFX) and they told me to return the card for a full refund. So i bought a new RTX 2060 from nVidia. All my problems were solved, and now the performance is extremely, extremely fast. Like 100x faster than what i was experiencing with the 5600XT, even on those brief moments when it actually worked. Error codes in Substance Painter also disspeared and I think some artifacts that were very common before no longer appear or do so much less often (still testing this bit). But overall is better, faster, even denoised is waaaay faster than the 5600 XT. >> >> I had to reduce the viewport passes to 16, because 32 was just too slow with the 5600XT, with the nVidia RTX 2060 AND the viewport denoiser active (something VERY slow with the 5600 XT) is SO fast i can't even see the numbers as they go up to 32. The improvement should be at least 100 times faster. >> >> Upgrading to the RTX 2060 was an absolute GAME-CHANGER, in terms of speed, quality, and features (like denoising or OptiX), albeit for about 40£ extra. Like other users have said before, don't waste any more time with the Radeon cards, AMD certainly isn't, as this has been going on for a year now. I can recommend the cheapest 2060 you can get, as it changed entirely my workflow. Its like Blender paradise. > > This is exactly what I did as well. Contacted XFX last week, got a full refund from the online shop I bought the 5700XT from and bought a RTX2060s. I should receive it by Monday or Tuesday. So it was possible ?! I don't think that this is possible in the Republic of Belarus = (But, I would like to return her to the store

so RX 5700 XT was a bad choice.... feel so unlucky..........

Added subscriber: @Yonatan-Avhar

just delete this folder: \ AppData \ Roaming \ Blender \ 2.90 \ cache \ kermels.

right click on the blender icon.

troubleshoot compatibility issues.

In #75319#1049628, @isaac.47 wrote:
just delete this folder: \ AppData \ Roaming \ Blender \ 2.90 \ cache \ kermels.

right click on the blender icon.

troubleshoot compatibility issues.

Are you sure you are using your GPU for rendering? Because the "device" section is grayed out.

well, this was one of the first things I tried when I got this bug, It didnt work back then neither it did now, I get the following error

crashing some seconds later

my computer specs are a ryzen 3600 and an rx5700xt

make sure you are not rendering with cpu

New drivers, folder: \ AppData \ Roaming \ Blender \ 2.90 \ cache \ kermels - deleted, and still no renders. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, just great.

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

I am also experiencing this issue with an AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT.
AMD Driver version: 20.11.1
CPU: Intel Core i5 8400
Windows 10 2004

Here are the logs from Blender 2.90:blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

In #75319#1049874, @Yonatan-Avhar wrote:
I am also experiencing this issue with an AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT.
AMD Driver version: 20.11.1
CPU: Intel Core i5 8400
Windows 10 2004

Here are the logs from Blender 2.90:blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Отправьте пожалуйста багрепорт, с помощью меню драйвера в AMD corp

Added subscriber: @VlaDexa

Added subscriber: @Tedzem

I have a RX 5700 XT and have the same problem. I got into blender only a couple of days ago so this is a little menacing.

Its sad that you have start like that, Bender is awesome software so be patient or switch to nvidia if you can.

you can also just revert the drivers to 20.4.2, render with only the cpu or use eevee/luxcore

Added subscriber: @Booler

Added subscriber: @en

Added subscribers: @silverstar48-3, @Hector-Castillo

UPDATE

Just updated to the new 20.11.2 Drivers and now all my renders on the GPU (RX 5700) work!
Even the principled Volume works without crashing!

Note the loading of the render kernels the first time after updating the driver took about 4 Minutes, after that everything was instantly loaded.
system-info.txt

Have the same, i couldnt believe it XD
20.11.2 - drivers. Blender working no crash so far, so we colse, plz check in your specs ? Good Job AMD. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I can to confirm the new drivers work, just with a really long compiling of render kernals. I am still converting to team green. I haven't been able to work efficiently for months now because of this so can't risk it happening again which is a HUGE possibility as their drivers seem to break things all the time.

Yep, I can confirm it has been fixed, as josh said, it takes a while loading and even gave me a kernel error, but if you go to solid mode and go back to render it works fine.

My graphics card is an RX5700xt, it would be good if someone with an older gen card also test it to see if it has been fully fixed

RX 5700 XT - Working.

It still feels quite iffy in some scenes to get it working, but yeah I can get it to render aswell on my 5700(XT)

Confirmed, 20.11.2 version AMD driver works fine. Although loading for the kernels takes up to 3 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQdd57NZBrg 😜😜😜😜

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In #75319#1031633, @SuperSamus wrote:
Not exactly the same issue (AMD RX 460 2GB, drivers 20.9.2):

If the scene is extremely simple, like the default cube, after waiting for "loading render kernels" (if I do anything* during this message Blender crashes) the scene does render. It's slower than just the CPU, but it renders, and I can move the camera without causing a crash.
If the scene is more complex than a default cube, Blender (after some waiting) manages to get to the first sample, but it won't go any further. Again, doing anything* crashes Blender.

*Actually not anything: only actions that cause another rendering, like moving the camera, will crash Blender. For the second example, if I change render device to CPU, Blender will switch successfully without crashing.

Well, the crash is fixed! When doing actions that cause a new render, it will do a new render, just as it should.
Unfortunately it still doesn't go past the first sample. Or maybe it eventually will, but too much time passed, CPU rendering would have already finished. I don't know if the little VRAM I have is the cause.
Also unrelated, but I tried to render (not via viewport) and it caused a driver hang, forcing me to kill Blender via task manager.

Я был очень рад прочитать позитивные отзывы о 20.11.2 , но у меня в рендере окна
И очень медленно реагирует на переключения, включения рендеров. ОЧЕНЬ медленно реагирует, во время выхода из рендера окна даже подумал что Blender завис! Но всё же отошел через некоторое время...
Обычный рендер F12 действительно загружается очень долго

Но! Это уже что, то! С нетерпением жду полного устранения проблемы! Очень нужно работать, я уже забыл хоткеи и отстаю от нововведений на столько что заново придется учить программу ((

I was very happy to read the positive feedback on 11/20/2, but I have in my window render
And very slowly responds to switching, turning on renders. VERY slow to react, when exiting the render window I even thought that Blender was frozen! But still, he left after a while ...
Normal F12 render takes a really long time to load

But! This is something! I look forward to completely fixing the problem! I really need to work, I have already forgotten the hotkeys and am lagging behind innovations to re-learn the program ((

Я был очень рад прочитать позитивные отзывы о 20.11.2 , но у меня в рендере окна ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9319101/изображение.png) И очень медленно реагирует на переключения, включения рендеров. ОЧЕНЬ медленно реагирует, во время выхода из рендера окна даже подумал что Blender завис! Но всё же отошел через некоторое время... Обычный рендер F12 действительно загружается очень долго ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9319116/изображение.png) ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9319118/изображение.png) Но! Это уже что, то! С нетерпением жду полного устранения проблемы! Очень нужно работать, я уже забыл хоткеи и отстаю от нововведений на столько что заново придется учить программу (( I was very happy to read the positive feedback on 11/20/2, but I have ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9319101/изображение.png) in my window render And very slowly responds to switching, turning on renders. VERY slow to react, when exiting the render window I even thought that Blender was frozen! But still, he left after a while ... Normal F12 render takes a really long time to load ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9319116/изображение.png) ![изображение.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9319118/изображение.png) But! This is something! I look forward to completely fixing the problem! I really need to work, I have already forgotten the hotkeys and am lagging behind innovations to re-learn the program ((

Radeon ProRender (very Slow reaction in renders)

Normal F12 render takes a really long time to load

to be fair, openCL always took a long time to start rendering, even before the bug

Ubuntu 20.04
Video card: Nvidia 780Ti
Compute card: rx 5700 xt

Command: sudo ./amdgpu-pro-install --opencl=pal --headless

Compute GPU not in Blender 2.90.1 OpenCL list

Command: sudo apt install ocl-icd-dev ocl-icd-libopencl1-amdgpu-pro-dev -y

Compute GPU appeared in Blender.

Testing: viewport rendering... same behavior as previous drivers, takes about 3 mins to compile.

Testing: rendering monkey with default material and default settings

    OpenCL rendering:
                           first time: 1m 20s
                           second time: 6.64s
    CUDA rendering: 
                           first time: 0.21s

Testing BAKE!...... Fail.

Memory access fault by GPU node-1 (Agent handle: 0x7f6042c01e00) on address 0x7f5f93bec000. Reason: Page not present or supervisor privilege.

Aborted

This is not a fresh install but it should have worked anyway.

I'll try in a fresh install later this week, no luck for me so far.

In #75319#1057364, @Diogo_Valadares wrote:

Normal F12 render takes a really long time to load

to be fair, openCL always took a long time to start rendering, even before the bug

20.4.2 Ok speed reaction , for my system.

Added subscriber: @Luciddream

I did some tests with latest 5700xt drivers on Linux (20.45) - I downloaded Nishita Sky Demo from Cycles, then tried to Render a single image.

ProRender completes in 55 seconds for 100% image size, and gives this result: https://i.imgur.com/Qqp2IFm.jpg

Cycles completes in 3,5 minutes for 52% image size, and gives this result: https://i.imgur.com/5jR3Szu.jpg

Is this expected or I'm doing something wrong? I have no experience with Blender I'm just trying to figure out if the drivers are working properly, and exploring new features :)

In #75319#1057748, @Luciddream wrote:
I did some tests with latest 5700xt drivers on Linux (20.45) - I downloaded Nishita Sky Demo from Cycles, then tried to Render a single image.

ProRender completes in 55 seconds for 100% image size, and gives this result: https://i.imgur.com/Qqp2IFm.jpg

Cycles completes in 3,5 minutes for 52% image size, and gives this result: https://i.imgur.com/5jR3Szu.jpg

Is this expected or I'm doing something wrong? I have no experience with Blender I'm just trying to figure out if the drivers are working properly, and exploring new features :)

Looks like ProRender is not set up correctly, as it looks notably worse and there's even missing textures

In #75319#1057753, @EddoWagt wrote:
Looks like ProRender is not set up correctly, as it looks notably worse and there's even missing textures

Thanks, I realize now I need to configure ProRender to get better quality which also makes it slower. I will make more tests - but I guess both OpenCL and ProRender are working for these drivers. Sometimes after I click Render Image, the UI will stop responding and I will have to kill blender from terminal, so it's kinda relevant to the issue.

hi All,
I tested Blender with new drivers couple of times, and its stable. First render is preparing kernels and it was about 2-4 min. after that all next renders in viewport or F12 was working fast. Before testing i cleared kernel cache. For me its ok, working smooth with no crash.
Thanks all for help and involve with problem together somehow. i wish you all the best renders ever made, 😘😘😘

Saju

Bake Project still has no luck.

Added subscriber: @voyager3

I had the same issues with my 5600xt with Adrenaline 20.9.1 (which came as recommended) and 20.11.1.
I now changed it to 20.4.2 and rendering works Einwandfrei ! :)

If you are new to this, you need to uninstall your old drivers first using DDU (https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html). If you do not do this, then you will have compatibility issues with your drivers and software.

Step 1: Install DDU
Step 2: Run the DDÚ application. Choose to uninstall 'GPU'-> AMD.
Step 3: Restart
Step 4: Install 20.4.2 adrenaline from here : https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-4-2
Step 5: Restart

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@voyager3 try 20.11.2 not 20.11.1

@Diogo_Valadares Tried it. The cycles rendering doesn't work and Blender crashes.
No issues with 20.4.2. I shall continue using it until AMD fixes this, hopefully in their next release.

Has anybody tried the drivers(20.11.2) with blender 2.91? I tried messing around with the new "mesh to volume modifier" and it seems to not like it. The volume has no material but its colored red, I don't know why.

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

#82856 (After updating the video card drivers to 20.11.2, interface artifacts appeared.)

My advice to you, do not suffer, but exchange for RTX2070S, RTX3070, I sold my RX5700xt ... Until AMD comes up with a replacement for CUDA \ Optix, there is no sense in working in Blender with Radeon. This is the segment of mining and video games. Blender Positioned on Nvidia and Linux.

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In #75319#1062294, @Mulock_666 wrote:
My advice to you, do not suffer, but exchange for RTX2070S, RTX3070, I sold my RX5700xt ... Until AMD comes up with a replacement for CUDA \ Optix, there is no sense in working in Blender with Radeon. This is the segment of mining and video games. Blender Positioned on Nvidia and Linux.

Yeah, thats why we re stuck with a NOT STABLE Blender version sicne 2.83 on the AMD side. This does NOT fix the Problem.

I just installed the driver version 20.11.2 for 5700xt. It works fine with blender version 2.90.1

However it shows an error with cycles enabled in blender version 2.91

In #75319#1065498, @silverstar48-3 wrote:
However it shows an error with cycles enabled in blender version 2.91

Yes, I already said, at this point in time I sell PRO versions from AMD will not give results, in terms of technology-performance-price-quality of the scene (work). AMD + Blender - makes it possible to use Blender, but they are not suitable for permanent work in the program, only in a separate segment such as video editing.

In #75319#1065498, @silverstar48-3 wrote:
However it shows an error with cycles enabled in blender version 2.91

this only happens once, if you go to solid then go to rendered mode again it works fine

for some reason when you go to solid mode it finishes the kernels compilation, so for a second blender will look like it hanged, but if you look at the console it will show what its doing:

Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_subsurface_scatter...
Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_direct_lighting...
Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_indirect_background...
Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_shader_eval...
Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_lamp_emission...
Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_holdout_emission_blurring_pathtermination_ao...
Split kernel error: failed to load kernel_indirect_background

it fails here, and then going to solid mode I get:

Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_shadow_blocked_dl...
Kernel compilation of split_indirect_background finished in 63.59s.
Cycles: compiling OpenCL program split_shadow_blocked_ao...
Kernel compilation of split_shader_eval finished in 63.80s.
Kernel compilation of split_holdout_emission_blurring_pathtermination_ao finished in 64.46s.
Kernel compilation of split_lamp_emission finished in 64.82s.
Kernel compilation of split_direct_lighting finished in 69.63s.
Kernel compilation of split_subsurface_scatter finished in 84.71s.
Kernel compilation of split_shadow_blocked_ao finished in 53.30s.
Kernel compilation of split_shadow_blocked_dl finished in 62.10s.

Seems like all the GCN 4 and RDNA 1 Cards are Having this OpenCL+Kernel Related Bug. (BUT NO GCN 5 CARD)

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Does anybody have any updates or fixes to this? 20.11.2 crashes for me when I use 2.90 or 2.91

In #75319#1093515, @Peeeynk wrote:
Does anybody have any updates or fixes to this? 20.11.2 crashes for me when I use 2.90 or 2.91

Update the latest motherboard BIOS driver, but watch out for version update comments!
Install the driver no higher ""Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2 Recommended (WHQL)""

Working in the new Blender 2.91.1 Alpha
Sapphire Nitro+ RX5700 XT
Ryzen 7 3700X 32GB Ram
Latest AMD Drivers

It does seem to still struggle a bit to compile kernels and what not prerendering in the image editor and especially with large scenes. Testing with the BMW GPU scene the viewport starts rendering right away. Seemingly not quite there yet, maybe the ball's in AMD's court for further optimization, or maybe I just don't know what to expect as this is the first GPU rendering I've been able to do on this machine, but it is at least useable now!

Please test and report back results. Specifically curious how better processors will fare with the 5700XT.

Works for me in blender 2.91.0

I have an Amd rx 5700, Amd ryzen 7 2700 and 32gb of ram with the latest amd drivers(20.11.3).

Takes a while for it to load the kernels and stuff for the render but when actually doing the rendering there are no issues.

20.12.1 are the latest drivers, but 20.11.3 didn't work for me then either in any previous version of Blender so that's interesting.

Starting GPU rendering in the viewport is almost instant now. The only Kernel loading I have is in the image editor rendering. Try 2.91.1 and see how it goes. There's specific updates in the release notes regarding AMD GPUs. I can't seem to pull up the release notes for it now though...

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Hi, today the new update "Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.1 Optional" came out for my GPU rx 5700xt and it solved the problems with volume shaders, in the past I couldn't render any volume shader at all I tried all the different versions of the GPU drivers and Blender versions too.

Today I upgraded the GPU driver to "Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.1 Optional" and it solved the problems for me, I use Windows 10 with rx 5700xt GPU and Blender 2.91.0 I hope it works for you guys as well.

Note;
Before this update I couldn't render at all in "Radeon Software" drivers so I had to install "Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise" drivers, then I couldn't play games properly with it, till I found out if you change "Feature set" to 'Experimental' you can actually render using "Radeon Software" drivers. Even though they all had issues with volume shaders.

Nice but what is the difference between "Adrenalin 2020 Edition 21.2.1 Optional" and Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.11.2 Recommended (WHQL)?

the WHQL stands for "Windows Hardware Quality Labs" it basically means that Microsoft tested this driver and it met the standards of Microsoft, and it is compatible with their operating systems.

so they recommended the WHQL driver instead of the latest driver. since it is tested, certified, compatible with the operating system, etc..

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Thanks for the clarification, do I have to uninstall my current driver(Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.11.2) before installing non-WHQL version?

welcome, no you don't have to. If you want to you can completely remove the current driver using amd cleanup utility and install the new one.

Actually this is the first time I install a driver without restarting my PC, the screen did go black longer than usual so I think the GPU restarted or something I don't really know.

So far it kind of works, but after some testing I found a couple of issues. Attaching a noise to the density gives you errors. and detaching the principled volume while in render view freezes blender.

It works fine with me, even if I detach the principled volume in render view mode

and detaching the principled volume while in render view freezes blender.

I reported this issue some time ago in #78027
also related:
#77858

Added subscriber: @ThomasDinges

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'

OpenCL rendering support was removed in Blender 3.0.
The combination of the limited Cycles kernel implementation, driver bugs, and stalled OpenCL standard
has made maintenance too difficult. Thanks for all your reports, but it's unlikely that there will be further fixes for OpenCL.

For AMD GPUs, there is a new backend based on the HIP platform.
In Blender 3.0, this is supported on Windows with RDNA and RDNA2 generation discrete graphics cards.
It includes Radeon RX 5000 and RX 6000 series GPUs. Driver version Radeon Pro 21.Q4 or newer is required.

https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/3.0/Cycles
https://code.blender.org/2021/11/next-level-support-for-amd-gpus/

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Crash during cycles GPU rendering in viewport #75319